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Subject: what do you think they should do about the BR.
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Thing about hte BR is, only the newbies can't use it, and even then, it only takes a day for them to learn how, cause the weapon is so goddamn easy to use.
I haven't played XBL (whuppydoo, that's what comes when you got a mothe rlike mine), but I have done system link, with a whol lot of people, But as I have said before, I prefer to be able to change tactics, Yes, I use the BR, but if someone starts sniping you while you have a br, you don't have a hope in hell.
Myself, I prefer the sniper rifle. But I haven't turned it into a worship weapon.
People complain about Snipers, but hey, not my fault they're stuck using a BR cause that is all they're good at.

  • 09.20.2009 3:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan ODST 2
Thing about hte BR is, only the newbies can't use it, and even then, it only takes a day for them to learn how, cause the weapon is so goddamn easy to use.
I haven't played XBL (whuppydoo, that's what comes when you got a mothe rlike mine), but I have done system link, with a whol lot of people, But as I have said before, I prefer to be able to change tactics, Yes, I use the BR, but if someone starts sniping you while you have a br, you don't have a hope in hell.
Myself, I prefer the sniper rifle. But I haven't turned it into a worship weapon.
People complain about Snipers, but hey, not my fault they're stuck using a BR cause that is all they're good at.


It's actually fairly easy to beat a sniper with a BR as long as you aren't standing on open ground (Why anyone would be doing that anyways is beyond me)

The BR to me is to much like a Sniper Rifle which is why I've never liked it.

[Edited on 09.20.2009 3:57 PM PDT]

  • 09.20.2009 3:55 PM PDT

Posted by: Gig4t3ch
Remove the BR.

Bring back the Halo CE pistol. Problem solved.

Lol

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Posted by: Gig4t3ch
Remove the BR.

Bring back the Halo CE pistol. Problem solved.

Lol

  • 09.20.2009 3:59 PM PDT

BR starts in all playlists. Problem solved.

  • 09.20.2009 4:09 PM PDT

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  • 09.20.2009 4:17 PM PDT

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halo CE pistol took 3 shots Br takes 4 you tell me which one is more powerful.

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Posted by: Spartan ODST 2
Thing about hte BR is, only the newbies can't use it, and even then, it only takes a day for them to learn how, cause the weapon is so goddamn easy to use.
I haven't played XBL (whuppydoo, that's what comes when you got a mothe rlike mine), but I have done system link, with a whol lot of people, But as I have said before, I prefer to be able to change tactics, Yes, I use the BR, but if someone starts sniping you while you have a br, you don't have a hope in hell.
Myself, I prefer the sniper rifle. But I haven't turned it into a worship weapon.
People complain about Snipers, but hey, not my fault they're stuck using a BR cause that is all they're good at.


It's actually fairly easy to beat a sniper with a BR as long as you aren't standing on open ground (Why anyone would be doing that anyways is beyond me)

The BR to me is to much like a Sniper Rifle which is why I've never liked it.


If you are far enough out to shoot the sniper, then you are doomed to an early death if the sniper is any good. (lol... I count myself as extremely good, main problem is I run out of ammo)
Myself and A coupl eof friends can snipe people out of Banshees with ease, someone hiding behind a rock with a br, won't be a problem me thinks.
I find the BR useful in Campaign, and downright pathetic in Multiplayer.

  • 09.20.2009 4:45 PM PDT

Take the scope off, cuz that would just be cool.

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Posted by: Ponch masta007
Take the scope off, cuz that would just be cool.


Err.... right
Although it would lessen the effectiveness, make it a closer quaters weapon.

  • 09.20.2009 4:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan ODST 2
Posted by: Ponch masta007
Take the scope off, cuz that would just be cool.


Err.... right
Although it would lessen the effectiveness, make it a closer quaters weapon.
that actually sounds somewhat like a good idea!

  • 09.20.2009 5:39 PM PDT

I'm out.

Posted by: BUSTER SD
halo CE pistol took 3 shots Br takes 4 you tell me which one is more powerful.


The BR, it's easier to use.

  • 09.20.2009 6:03 PM PDT

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Good lord the BR is the best thing that happened to halo. The only ones who complain about the Battle Rifle are the ones who get four shotted constantly.The BR brought competitiveness to Halo3. Can you imagine how upset the MLG community will be if they take out the gun in Halo Reach. They would move to Modern Warfare 2 if Bungie pulled that, And that's the last thing Bungie wants to hear on their review.

Ones who complain are the ones who can't use it.

Negative. The Pistol was what brought competition to the Halo series, not the BR. You must be a Halo 3 starter player.

And to those who think the BR is the only good weapon in Halo, you're wrong. It and the carbine are the only two weapons that are oddballs in the entire weapon set. Halo was originally designed for relatively close combat. Proof of this comes in the fact that the melee system is universal for all weapons in consideration that you wouldn't have time to switch to a melee weapon due to being too close. Grenades have the same consideration, since they are also a separate action from the other weapons.

On top of that, most combat in Halo CE took place in small corridors, valleys and rooms and anything that was open had a vehicle waiting for you. The game was designed to function differently than other shooters in that it wasn't about taking your enemy down ASAP from a distance, but tactical decision making in close quarters combat. The BR is merely a poorly crafted pistol re-skin. The BR is actually the WORST thing to happen to Halo, since not only did it fail to remain balanced with the rest of the weapon set but it poorly replaced the originally overpowered pistol.

My reasoning for this is that the Pistol, while overpowered, was balanced. All it needed was a rifle re-skin and a 5 shot kill instead of a 3. But Bungie decided for an inconsistent three shot burst, which negates any true skill the weapon hands and throws the victory to a random factor of who happened to have more bullets hit first.'

I also HATE those who say, "You don't like it cause you suck at it." Maybe I don't? I'm fairly good with a BR, but that doesn't mean I should be blind to the fact that almost any game which has an abundance of the weapon or starts with it boils down to a BR spawn killing fest. If you like that kind of stale monotony, go play COD4.

You pretty much took the words from right out of my mouth. I still like cod4 tho. Maybe more if they nerfed the m16...

  • 09.20.2009 6:03 PM PDT

Holla bip bip!!

How can everyone say the BR is EASY to use. This doesn't make any sense at all. The only weapons harder to use are the sniper(both), pistol, and carbine.

Making the AR have more range would probably be the best way to go about this conflict, but it should never be able to out due a BR from range simply because it automatic.

Plus, Reach should make the movement in this game quicker. Halo 3 was slower then Halo 2. This could be a reason why a BR is easier to use.

  • 09.20.2009 6:08 PM PDT

Make it like the halo 2 br

  • 09.20.2009 6:12 PM PDT

You are lame...

Where are the make it more powerful/accurate options?

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i think the br in halo 3 sucks, u have to lead the shots when theyre close range bring back the h2 br without the auto aim

  • 09.20.2009 6:22 PM PDT

FLOOD

Keep the pistol from O.D.S.T or remake the BR.

  • 09.20.2009 6:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: ACE bipbip 171
How can everyone say the BR is EASY to use. This doesn't make any sense at all. The only weapons harder to use are the sniper(both), pistol, and carbine.

The BR is easy cause it only requires one skill - aiming. Anyone who plays a shooter has aiming down, so it really isn't that hard of a weapon for shooter fans to grasp. Weapons like the Laser, Rocket, Brute Shot, Spiker, PR, PP, and the Needler are much more foreign to the average shooter player. That doesn't make them harder necessarily, but it does require a bit of adjusting. The BR eliminates that part of the adjustment. Halo is an arcade shooter with a semi-pinpoint weapon. That weapon dominates not just because it is overpowered but because it is literally the first weapon people learn to use in the game since it is so familiar.

  • 09.20.2009 9:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: GanonSmash
BR starts in all playlists. Problem solved.
agreed :)

  • 09.21.2009 7:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
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Posted by: GanonSmash
BR starts in all playlists. Problem solved.
agreed :)
You mean like they already do in all of the MLG playlists that are already in existance?

[Edited on 09.21.2009 7:18 PM PDT]

  • 09.21.2009 7:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: arachnid223
unstead of tuning the BR down why don't they just increase the weapon power of the other guns,i'm up for not having quite so many guys running and hiding(waiting for there shields to recharge) as soon as i get a couple bullets in them!
if the other weapons did more damage then they could just increase the shield recharge rate.and sense it is a whole new game they should do it or already done it.don't get me wrong and think that i want it removed or even degraded,i'd love to have it just the same.but if something has to be done i'd want this!

EDIT:look at it this way.in halo CE,all the guns felt powerful.in halo 3 the (AR) lost ammunition,the (needler) became only single handed,the (Rocketlauncher) lost its ability to lock on and the powerful radious,the (bruteshot) lost its radious damage,not to mention the biggest nerf of all,the HALO:CE HANDGUN,the list go's on. what i'm trying to say is,people (at least me anyways) dont like playing with weapons that arn't even as good as they were in the last game. it makes us feel less deadly :).

EDIT: also something i never really understood about BR/AR complaints is that,the BR is sepposed to be used for medium range and the AR is sepposed to be used for close quarters combat.obviously the BR is going to beat the AR at a range.and the AR beats the BR at close quarters so there shouldn't even be any complaints about those two weapons!
great thread man!

  • 09.22.2009 4:53 PM PDT

Keep BUNGLE away from matchmaking, away from these forums, and overall away from this game.

They'll never take out the BR so all you BR haters need to get with the program.

The BR bias continues.

  • 09.22.2009 5:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: arachnid223
unstead of tuning the BR down why don't they just increase the weapon power of the other guns,i'm up for not having quite so many guys running and hiding(waiting for there shields to recharge) as soon as i get a couple bullets in them!
if the other weapons did more damage then they could just increase the shield recharge rate.and sense it is a whole new game they should do it or already done it.don't get me wrong and think that i want it removed or even degraded,i'd love to have it just the same.but if something has to be done i'd want this!

EDIT:look at it this way.in halo CE,all the guns felt powerful.in halo 3 the (AR) lost ammunition,the (needler) became only single handed,the (Rocketlauncher) lost its ability to lock on and the powerful radious,the (bruteshot) lost its radious damage,not to mention the biggest nerf of all,the HALO:CE HANDGUN,the list go's on. what i'm trying to say is,people (at least me anyways) dont like playing with weapons that arn't even as good as they were in the last game. it makes us feel less deadly :).

EDIT: also something i never really understood about BR/AR complaints is that,the BR is sepposed to be used for medium range and the AR is sepposed to be used for close quarters combat.obviously the BR is going to beat the AR at a range.and the AR beats the BR at close quarters so there shouldn't even be any complaints about those two weapons!
great thread man!
thanks dude!

  • 09.23.2009 5:21 PM PDT

Posted by: elitehunter34
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Posted by: CallMehFluff
Good lord the BR is the best thing that happened to halo. The only ones who complain about the Battle Rifle are the ones who get four shotted constantly.The BR brought competitiveness to Halo3. Can you imagine how upset the MLG community will be if they take out the gun in Halo Reach. They would move to Modern Warfare 2 if Bungie pulled that, And that's the last thing Bungie wants to hear on their review.

Ones who complain are the ones who can't use it.

Negative. The Pistol was what brought competition to the Halo series, not the BR. You must be a Halo 3 starter player.

And to those who think the BR is the only good weapon in Halo, you're wrong. It and the carbine are the only two weapons that are oddballs in the entire weapon set. Halo was originally designed for relatively close combat. Proof of this comes in the fact that the melee system is universal for all weapons in consideration that you wouldn't have time to switch to a melee weapon due to being too close. Grenades have the same consideration, since they are also a separate action from the other weapons.

On top of that, most combat in Halo CE took place in small corridors, valleys and rooms and anything that was open had a vehicle waiting for you. The game was designed to function differently than other shooters in that it wasn't about taking your enemy down ASAP from a distance, but tactical decision making in close quarters combat. The BR is merely a poorly crafted pistol re-skin. The BR is actually the WORST thing to happen to Halo, since not only did it fail to remain balanced with the rest of the weapon set but it poorly replaced the originally overpowered pistol.

My reasoning for this is that the Pistol, while overpowered, was balanced. All it needed was a rifle re-skin and a 5 shot kill instead of a 3. But Bungie decided for an inconsistent three shot burst, which negates any true skill the weapon hands and throws the victory to a random factor of who happened to have more bullets hit first.'

I also HATE those who say, "You don't like it cause you suck at it." Maybe I don't? I'm fairly good with a BR, but that doesn't mean I should be blind to the fact that almost any game which has an abundance of the weapon or starts with it boils down to a BR spawn killing fest. If you like that kind of stale monotony, go play COD4.

You pretty much took the words from right out of my mouth. I still like cod4 tho. Maybe more if they nerfed the m16...

While I agree with these posts, I must just point out that CoD4 and hopefully MW2 will not/are not monotonous games.

[Edited on 09.23.2009 8:15 PM PDT]

  • 09.23.2009 8:15 PM PDT