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Subject: Get rid of Equipment?

Holla bip bip!!

So, Halo 3 had EQUIPMENT. This idea seemed cool, put everything it does makes the game less balance and more frustrating then anything. I suggest Bungie takes a new route with the X buttom and the whole equipment thing. The only equipment that doesn't piss people off is the grav life.

What do other people think? ODST doesn't have equipment, YES!
I would rather have the X button cause your spartan to say some funny quote, like Hasta la vista BABY!!

I can live with equipment, but it doesn't seem like it fits in this game series.



[Edited on 09.17.2009 8:59 PM PDT]

  • 09.17.2009 8:58 PM PDT
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What's the matter with Equipment? It makes you think, something most Matchmaking players are woefully lacking.

  • 09.17.2009 9:02 PM PDT

I completely agree with you.. there should not be anymore deployables. It completly kills the aspect and play of the game. Halo 2 did just fine without the deployables and it is so frustrating when they either dont work properly or someone uses it as their last refuge.

  • 09.17.2009 9:11 PM PDT

Holla bip bip!!

It's like a double edge sword. I don't like equipment. But I don't want to see another X button thread as much as the next guy. So I can't win. I LOOSE.

about equipment...
When I shoot someone to death and they deploy a Regenerator, I feel like like an idiot who just wasted my time. Com'n everybody has seen that moment where one guy pulls out the regenerator and the guy on the other end just stands there and gets killed. As if the player dropped (an Fbomb maybe) his controller in digust. That player was ME!
And power drainers are the easiest ways to always have someone killed.

Equipment is over powered junk. Oddball is now bubble sheild ball. How boring?? Get rid of this stuff.



[Edited on 09.17.2009 9:27 PM PDT]

  • 09.17.2009 9:20 PM PDT

I like equipment.

  • 09.17.2009 9:28 PM PDT

Posted by: UrethaPoptarts
I like equipment.


Me too. Equipment is awesome. There is no reason to get rid of it, IMO.

  • 09.17.2009 9:51 PM PDT

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get rid of the non essential equipment such as gravlift and the regenerater (it only delays an en evadable fate and gravlifts dont have any potential in protection or in killing)

  • 09.17.2009 10:17 PM PDT

So lets set this straight I betrayed you and your mad....its infection...
do you want to be a zombie ???

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Here comes thinking again....

When that happens you should probably take cover. Get out of their line of sight, because you wont kill them from range. I'll also bet your one of those who are mad the BR isn't in ODST.

Equipment is in ODST. You just cant use it. I believe I saw a brute use a bubble shield in one of those trailers for it.

  • 09.17.2009 10:23 PM PDT

Grenade without pin equals worst enemy :)

I don't think they should get rid of Equipment but they should definantly change some of it. Like the Power Drainger, I liked the idea of it stopping all vehicles, but I think that killing you was the stupid part of it. Out of everything that's the first thing that would have to be changed.

But in the long run i say no to getting rid of equipment

  • 09.17.2009 11:11 PM PDT

Keep equipment. Yeah sure it can be annoying or some might say overpowered but a rocket launcher can also be annoying and overpowered. Simple solution grab the power drain (or whatever equipment it is) before the enemy does. Like you would do with the rocket launcher on the Pit in TDM

  • 09.17.2009 11:59 PM PDT

Ignorance leads to fear, fear lead to hate, and hate has ruined this world.

I think equipment was a nice idea, but thus far from what I have seen it tends to make the game bunch up, stagnate, etc. Equipment items like the Bubble Shield, Regen, are too powerful, and too specific about what they do to work well with the flow of multi player. I have nothing against grav lifts, Radar Jammer's (I LOVED the Radar Jammer) deployable cover, or turrets.

But guess how many of those we see in multi player currently? Equipment is gimmicky, there's almost no debating that, but there's nothing that says it can't both be gimmicky, AND fit with gameplay.

I wish Bungie had used more of the equipment that we saw in the campaign of Halo 3 in the multi player, or even designed more just for that purpose. Off the top of my head...

Equipment similar to the power drainer that pulses a few times before delivering an EMP blast knocking out all use of vehicles in a small area. Through walls, and objects.

An actual BOMB, that you could throw to either detonate on impact, or double tap X for it to have a time delay.

Equipment that would knock out the enemies ability to recharge their shields, scramble their ability to communicate, make them unable to see where there own teammates were.

Equipment that when deployed would instantly rebuild whatever vehicle it was thrown on. Did the enemy just blow up your ghost? Well throw the Repair on it, and instantly you have a driveable ghost again.

There are almost limitless possibilities for what is possible in the form of equipment, and we ended up with some of the most uninteresting, unoriginal ones.



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  • 09.18.2009 12:09 AM PDT

Ignorance leads to fear, fear lead to hate, and hate has ruined this world.

And in a double post, I would prefer the "X" button to, instead of being used to throw equipment, for it to be some sort of a quick dodge, or quick jump. Allowing you to move your spartan quickly out of the way of a grenade, but maybe he has to pause to catch his footing briefly before doing it again. Maybe hit it as you run into a wall or jump into a wall to allow you to do a double jump off of the wall. I always thought that would be a fun addition.

  • 09.18.2009 12:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: Josephson
get rid of the non essential equipment such as gravlift and the regenerater (it only delays an en evadable fate and gravlifts dont have any potential in protection or in killing)

Just cause the grav lift has slim to no combat function, it sure as hell makes it easier to get up from the bottom of Ghost town to the top, or over the wall on high ground. Seriously, put a grav lif on ANY map and you will find a good use for it (Epitaph, Construct, and Blackout have MANY areas a grav lift would be useful.

  • 09.18.2009 12:20 AM PDT

No, equipment should stay. Perhaps some more types of equipment could be added for variety, and the ones that are already there that suck could be re-tooled a bit, but it shouldn't be removed.

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  • 09.18.2009 12:59 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Ray MK IV
No, equipment should stay. Perhaps some more types of equipment could be added for variety, and the ones that are already there that suck could be re-tooled a bit, but it shouldn't be removed.

If it stays, it needs to change a bit.

I'd say a Regen should be worth ONE full refill of shield. That's it, not an AOE healing equipment.

All the same, the Power Drain should instantly zap shields to 1/4, but explode on impact with the ground.

The Bubble Shield should be impenetrable, NOTHING gets in OR out(Blocks vehicles, players, and bullets), but it won't last too long. This would make for interesting cqc arenas, or just instant cover, but your stuck there, so when it disappears, your completely vulnerable again.

Tripmines should be more effective, blowing up a Warthog in one explosion.

Radar Jammers should make the radar appear blank, so it looks like noone is there, instead of blotted, this would add to the stealth factor, the multiple blits are annoying and give away that you are there too easily.

Flares should remain the same, but as is with the other round equipment, you should NOT be able to jump on it.

Grav Lifts are perfect the way they are.

[Edited on 09.18.2009 1:13 AM PDT]

  • 09.18.2009 1:13 AM PDT

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  • 09.18.2009 6:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: Panzeereapa
What's the matter with Equipment? It makes you think, something most Matchmaking players are woefully lacking.


It achieves the exact opposite of that, providing inferior players with a handy little get out of jail card.

  • 09.18.2009 7:14 AM PDT

I like your concept but that would make a bubble shield a bigger more powerful deployable cover that you would be trapped in if you can't go in or out of it. Why not just make the deployable cover more powerful?

In my opinion I think in ODST Bungie took the right route and made it where only enemy could use equipment and that's a good step to doing the same in Reach

  • 09.18.2009 7:30 AM PDT

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Someone has already said that equipment is basically a double-edged sword. It adds a little more strategy and thinking to the game (how to use it to its best potential, or how to kill the person in the bubble or regen).
I will agree though, I do hate getting someone down to one shot and having them drop a bubble or regen while at range.
On the contrary, it's been fun trying to time a bubble right to have the rocket guy blow himself up on it.

  • 09.18.2009 7:38 AM PDT

Posted by: Panzeereapa
What's the matter with Equipment? It makes you think, something most Matchmaking players are woefully lacking.

Walking around with a regenerator ready to easily make a joke of the next person to shoot you does not require much thought. Some equipment is so overpowered to the point it's basically a free kill or two.

  • 09.18.2009 7:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: Ray MK IV
No, equipment should stay. Perhaps some more types of equipment could be added for variety, and the ones that are already there that suck could be re-tooled a bit, but it shouldn't be removed.

If it stays, it needs to change a bit.

I'd say a Regen should be worth ONE full refill of shield. That's it, not an AOE healing equipment.


All the same, the Power Drain should instantly zap shields to 1/4, but explode on impact with the ground.

The Bubble Shield should be impenetrable, NOTHING gets in OR out(Blocks vehicles, players, and bullets), but it won't last too long. This would make for interesting cqc arenas, or just instant cover, but your stuck there, so when it disappears, your completely vulnerable again.

Tripmines should be more effective, blowing up a Warthog in one explosion.

Radar Jammers should make the radar appear blank, so it looks like noone is there, instead of blotted, this would add to the stealth factor, the multiple blits are annoying and give away that you are there too easily.

Flares should remain the same, but as is with the other round equipment, you should NOT be able to jump on it.

Grav Lifts are perfect the way they are.


[Edited on 09.18.2009 8:40 AM PDT]

  • 09.18.2009 8:40 AM PDT

Steven

My suggestions,

Note: all equipment should be destroyable with just two br shots or similar weapons fire.

1. Reduce the time that the bubble shield deploys by half.
2. Weaken the regen so that 6-8 BR shots still kill someone.
3. Weaken the power drain so that it takes down your shields slightly slower, giving you a chance to get out of the way.
4. Keep the grav lift exactly as is.
5. Fix and bring back all the other equipment.

  • 09.18.2009 8:59 AM PDT
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Some equipment is okay, like the grav lift, trip mine, or deployable cover. Others, like bubble shields, regens, and power drains make me want to kill something. If they got rid of equipment completely I would be happy.

  • 09.18.2009 9:00 AM PDT
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euipment should stay because it adds some thinking... a guy throws down a regen or bubble be PATIENT losing one kill isnt the end of the world... its not like equipment is that plentiful anyways... but what i do suggest is make the power drain less powerful and maybe take the noise away from the trip mine or make it quiter.

  • 09.18.2009 9:15 AM PDT

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