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Subject: The Antichrist gun may return in Halo Reach! NOOOOOOO!!!

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The most repetitive and overpowered gun in Halo, the BR, may return in Halo Reach. (Yes, I think that the BR should not return)

Bonus: New, very powerful pistol in same passage!

Note: Interesting parts have been boldened.

Fred peered inside and saw a rack of handguns. They weren't the standard-issue HE pistols; these had oversized barrels- easily 30% larger and longer- and they had grips of self-molding plastasteel. He picked one up and hefted it- its balance was barrel heavy, to be expected from an unloaded pistol. He found 3 boxes of clips at the bottom of the locker, opened one, and took out a clip. Whatever this new handgun shot, it was high caliber, slugs the size of his thumb. He slid the clip into the gun, and secured it with a satisfying click.
Now it was perfectly balanced, far better than the standard-issue sidearm.
He secured the weapon and turned to see what Will had found.
Will examined a plastic wrapped rifle. He removed the rifle from the locker, ripped off its sheathing, and shouldered it. He nodded with satisfaction.
Unlike the MA5B, this rifle had a longer barrel and stock, with a cut down muzzle shroud. A scope was mounted on the optics railing along the top of the rifle. Will hefted a clip and inserted it into the receiver.

Halo First Strike
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Halopedia claims that the pistol mentioned is the M6C/SOCOM

The BR is the rifle described, no question.

What is your opinion on this data?

  • 09.18.2009 6:11 PM PDT
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This is describing the additions to Halo 2. The magnum TECHNICALLY is better, but in reality the game portrays it as weaker but faster. It's .50 caliber, easily the size of a thumb. Remembering the Halo CE pistol, it seemed like the magazine was far heavier than the barrel. This accounts for the speed. The CE pistol had such a huge recoil. The Magnum (halo 2) shoots much faster, due to being a balanced weapon.

  • 09.18.2009 6:14 PM PDT

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I doubt they will put it in for 2 reasons.
1. because BR's were very rare if EVER seen at this time.
2. Bungie basically said they don't like the BR & the 1st reson would justify as an excuse to keep it out.

  • 09.18.2009 6:20 PM PDT

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Some of the stuff is Halo 2, yes, but takes place at/around Halo CE.
We can only hope for the CE feel.

  • 09.18.2009 6:22 PM PDT

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The only reason the BR is overpowered is because dual wielding randomized the gameplay and broke the sandbox, causing many weapons to only be useful at melee and close range, rather than being versatile and variety-promoting like they were in Halo 1.

That, and the BR is the only midrange gun in Halo 3 (besides the Carbine, but Bungie doesnt let you spawn with it and its not on much maps). There are tons of close range weapons, so your kills will logically be spread thin between them.

All of your midrange kills are the result of the only spawn-capable weapon that can be used at midrange to any effect.

I would like to see a beefed up M6C/SOCOM (5 SK) in this game as well as a single shot BR. Burst is broken online because of latency. It makes much more sense to make it single shot.

If someone thinks it would make it just like the Carbine, then the PR, Needler, Spiker and SMG must be identical to the AR, right?

  • 09.18.2009 6:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: wheelz1918
antichrist gun?really?why, cuz u suck and can't use it. if the br isn't in reach it will suck, especially multiplayer, unless their is a good pistol.im sick of kids who can't aim hating on the br, just go play AR starts with your noob friends.

Wow, flame? When my service record says it's one of my top kill weapons? Make a valid point or don't post.

MLD Cheehwawa is right, Bungie made the BR too easy to use, and be effective at too many ranges. Different weapons filling different roles made Halo balanced, some weapons would be good on some maps, some weapons would be good on other maps. There was no dominating weapon, the BR.

In short, the BR is too good.

  • 09.18.2009 6:34 PM PDT

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I'm not saying the BR is too good, I'm saying the other guns are too bad. The BR (or Carbine, or the Halo 1 Pistol, or Halo 3 ODST Pistol) is the link between close and long range. You need it there or the Sniper becomes overpowered, and you need it there or you need to be right up next to someone to kill them.

What I'm saying is the other weapons should be beefed up so they can all operate AT LEAST at close-midrange, and some weapons should be able to operate at mid-long range if used sparingly (ex. the AR should be inaccurate fully automatic but if you pulse the trigger it becomes close-mid to mid and if you tap the trigger for single shot it is mid-long like the BR to ping snipers, but weaker)

  • 09.18.2009 6:39 PM PDT

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Reach is going to have a little bit differnt feal to it. I would not worry too much there will still be a midrange wepon of some sort to tool around with.

  • 09.18.2009 6:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: analbumcover
Reach is going to have a little bit differnt feal to it. I would not worry too much there will still be a midrange wepon of some sort to tool around with.
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  • 09.18.2009 6:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: analbumcover
Reach is going to have a little bit differnt feal to it. I would not worry too much there will still be a midrange wepon of some sort to tool around with.
.... Please tell me the space in your name comes after the "m" and not the "l" ...
yes I am an album coverX... I have noooo Idea what your talking about ;)

  • 09.18.2009 6:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: CookieMan
Some of the stuff is Halo 2, yes, but takes place at/around Halo CE.
We can only hope for the CE feel.

  • 09.18.2009 7:06 PM PDT

if there's no br, im not buying the game

  • 09.18.2009 7:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: II SunDeviI II
if there's no br, im not buying the game

Why? If there is a superior pistol, and MLG used it as the game's flagship weapon, then the majority of players go after the pistol.

There was Halo before there was the BR, there will be Halo after the BR.

  • 09.18.2009 7:10 PM PDT

No. Keep it, it is perfectly balanced.
plus the assault rifle is the default, not BR.

quit whining

  • 09.18.2009 7:12 PM PDT
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PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS POST DETERIORATE INTO A BR/AR FLAME WAR.

He's simply asking what you belive this material means. Do you think bungie will include the Magnum? The CE Pistol? The AR? The BR? Your opinion. Not your preference.

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Posted by: analbumcover
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: analbumcover
Reach is going to have a little bit differnt feal to it. I would not worry too much there will still be a midrange wepon of some sort to tool around with.
.... Please tell me the space in your name comes after the "m" and not the "l" ...
yes I am an album coverX... I have noooo Idea what your talking about ;)
I could have sworn it was -blam!- bum cover. You did that on purpose, didn't you?

Anyways, Spartans wore Mark V at Reach, so expect lack of dual-wielding (and therefore beefier weapons).

  • 09.18.2009 7:15 PM PDT

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This thread is not about flaming me, this thread is about the possible return of the BR.

No, the BR s not balanced.
The AR is only default for main MM gametypes. Stop flaming.

  • 09.18.2009 7:16 PM PDT

I'm out.

Posted by: DrakeBS757

2. Bungie basically said they don't like the BR & the 1st reson would justify as an excuse to keep it out.


Proof please.

  • 09.18.2009 7:19 PM PDT

Well if you watch the Bungie ODST PAX Panel interview they will tell for instance why the BR is not in ODST, the Design Director Paul Bertone says he doesnt like so they didnt put it in ODST, same thing with dual wielding. If they dont want something in the game, it isnt going to be in there, pretty much as simple as that.

  • 09.18.2009 7:32 PM PDT