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Subject: Brutes or Elites... the funner more challenging enemy?
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  • 10.17.2009 12:19 AM PDT

The less than a second latency of online play is a better system to play off of than more health.

You realize this system is just as host based, right? because if you're fighting host, or someone with a better connection to host, and you each start firing at the same time, his BULLETS will register first, giving him slightly more health if the melees happen at the same time.

So would you rather have the BS of both, or just one?

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Elites, with a small exception for brute jump pack teams/ Hammer Chieftains.
The normal elite is a world of fun beyond the normal brute but Bungie seemed to make brute jump packs much more exciting than the halo 2 elite hover packs. Sword elites while interesting/ more lethal in their own right, are much less interesting than what Bungie put into the hammer brutes (though some HP tweaking/ minor behavior updates could likely achieve this in elites).

The only way I could see elites not being superior is if Reach ends up using the distorted multiplayer-esque elites (hunchback dinosaurs) rather then the sleek/ lanky monsters we have in halo 1. The ones that would contort in every which way whilst dodging rounds and delivering them.

  • 10.17.2009 12:44 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

Oh great, the thread is overflowing with people in love with Elites...

  • 10.17.2009 12:59 AM PDT

There are those who said this day would never come. What have they to say now?

It has to be Elites.
But i must say, after playing ODST i think the Brutes are beginning to warm on me. But, i just don't like the way they run at you spraying and trying to melee your face off. It reminds me of 7 yr olds on matchmaking.

  • 10.17.2009 1:48 AM PDT

...That's actually a tougher one than I thought it'd be.

My first instinct was to vote Elite.....but, the Brutes have kind of grown on me....



Screw it, Elites rock.

  • 10.17.2009 2:23 AM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
people who vote elites : have started playing halo with HCE or H2.
people who vote brutes : kids that have started with halo 3.


Im gonna say elites, but that post was kinda short sighted. There are alot of adults who would vote brutes because they started playing in halo 3. its not like there were just kids who started their halo life with Halo 3.

  • 10.17.2009 2:27 AM PDT

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Oh great, the thread is overflowing with people in love with Elites...


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  • 10.17.2009 3:38 AM PDT

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Lol over 100 votes on elites and 7 on brutes.

  • 10.17.2009 3:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
people who vote elites : have started playing halo with HCE or H2.
people who vote brutes : kids that have started with halo 3.
What bloody joke this guy is.

Seriously with logic like that im surprised you havent eaten your own nose by now..... or maybe you have i dont know.

Anybody who thinks Elites presented a challenge greater than a Brute in Halo 3 are kidding them selves, for the 1 reason. Halo 3s enemy AI is better than that of Combat Evolved and Halo 2. Meaning the real challenges in the Halo universe are the Brutes. Thats FACT not belief.

Love Brutes and love Elites all the same. But like all enemies in all games, once you now the enemies weakness the challenge slowly dissipates. remember your first encounter with a Hunter in Halo CE??? remember how terrifying it was??? but how easy it became once you learnt its weakness?.... yeah thats what i thought.

And technically Brutes and Elites have exactly the same ammount of health ingame. Elites have stronger shields but take more flesh damage, whereas Brutes have weaker shield but naturally more bullet resistant to flesh damage.

So really your fighting the same characters just in different skins and opposite health systems.

  • 10.17.2009 3:56 AM PDT

Look out.... -boom- (headshot)
I told you to look out, but know, you got in my way, was going to shoot that splaser....

Once again I remind people to read the god damned books! Brutes shouldn't be in Reach anyways! They fought through half of what was left of Reach when the Petty Officer John- Spartan 117 went back to rescue his team, and still, NO BRUTES.

  • 10.17.2009 4:21 AM PDT

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  • 10.17.2009 4:23 AM PDT

Posted by: Chardy Wolfe
Posted by: Inhuman Zealot
all chieftains have invincibility(if only limited) and if the arbiter wasnt a fair match, then the arbiter with all of those zealots and councilors and Johnson should have been.

who cares f they have invincibility all u gots o do is run around them till its off or hurt them from a far so its wasted...but ya they need to b stronger like a hunter but smarter and faster...id love for brutes to kick ass but im srry elites have their shields plus some go camo ...they hide according to damage to heal altogether that makes them harder ...PLUS the white ones on legendary WTF they take like 4 stickies to kill them (halo 2)...brutes r weak they hide for no reason and also roar wen hurt which leaves them open ugh

Im not talking about the h3 ones, Im talking about the h2 chieften with the invinstability that doesnt wear off over time. Thats why Johnson was sniping, and once the zealots died w/o damaging Tartaurous, it turned into a one on one battle, and the arbiter kills Tartourous.

  • 10.17.2009 6:14 AM PDT
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elites are just the best aliens in the halo games

  • 10.17.2009 6:17 AM PDT


Posted by: AlphaSteam
Posted by: Chardy Wolfe
Posted by: Inhuman Zealot
all chieftains have invincibility(if only limited) and if the arbiter wasnt a fair match, then the arbiter with all of those zealots and councilors and Johnson should have been.

who cares f they have invincibility all u gots o do is run around them till its off or hurt them from a far so its wasted...but ya they need to b stronger like a hunter but smarter and faster...id love for brutes to kick ass but im srry elites have their shields plus some go camo ...they hide according to damage to heal altogether that makes them harder ...PLUS the white ones on legendary WTF they take like 4 stickies to kill them (halo 2)...brutes r weak they hide for no reason and also roar wen hurt which leaves them open ugh

Im not talking about the h3 ones, Im talking about the h2 chieften with the invinstability that doesnt wear off over time. Thats why Johnson was sniping, and once the zealots died w/o damaging Tartaurous, it turned into a one on one battle, and the arbiter kills Tartourous.


ill admit tartarous was a poor example but you put standard chieftains up against standard ultras and zealots, id give it to the Chieftains. The temporary invincibility would be more than enough for a finish a few elites. Even if the elites have camo, when the first brute falls theyll all just whore their hammers in the area a few times most likely hitting a few.

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  • 10.17.2009 6:40 AM PDT
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in theory halo:reach should have elites as the main covenant squad leaders as its before the brutes take control

  • 10.17.2009 6:49 AM PDT

The Elites are more lenghty and steppy, they tend to dodge way better. I vote for Elites. I know there will be Elites in the game, we all do. There were no Brutes on Reach, so chances are they won't be there in the game!

  • 10.17.2009 7:19 AM PDT

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I actually like both and hope that we get to fight both on Reach. It would make for varied fights instead of a default enemy.

  • 10.17.2009 7:38 AM PDT

Wow Bungie should maybe take a look at this thread... You know, just to realize how much the community likes the Elites. Best enemies ever!

  • 10.17.2009 7:49 AM PDT

Go Go Happy Time!

Elites were fun to kill. I remember playing Halo CE when I just walked behind a box and there was an elite, just firing his plasma rifle. Elites were hard to kill, especially in Halo 2. They'd always go to cover when they take about 1 shot. Though, Halo 2 Brutes were hard too. The way they charged at you and took down your shields so quickly was a pain. But I vote elites because they are cooler and were in the halo (GAME SERIES) since the beginning.

  • 10.17.2009 8:16 AM PDT

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  • 10.17.2009 8:20 AM PDT

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really depends halo 3 brutes or halo 2 brutes?

cause the elites were better than the halo 3 brutes but the halo 2 ones that took 3 or 4 melees to kill... they were awesome

  • 10.17.2009 8:20 AM PDT
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HOW aboyt Grunts they get more kills than elites or brutes without them their are no enemies. killing a group of elites or brutes is 2 easy withoutem

  • 10.17.2009 8:35 AM PDT

I would like to see both but if there could only be one it would be the Elites

  • 10.17.2009 8:37 AM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
thanks XD
if you see a brute vs elite thread, or a "please let us play as brutes in mp!!111" thread or whatever involving brutes, you'll most likely see me there.
and someone else called NME Overlord, who have the same opinions as me.

:| we just dislike hairy creeps...

Oh no, not you guys again.

Anyway I think Elites were definitly the more fun and challanging enemy. However if Brutes were altered they could become quite a good enemy.

  • 10.17.2009 8:43 AM PDT

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