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Subject: Did Bungie create ODST to prepare players for Reach?

"Don't you know?...Spartans never die".

If you read the books, fall of reach and first strike are all about teamwork and blue team's training as a squad.

Do you think odst was developed to get people more interested in the squad based elements that may appear in Halo Reach?

I know specifically they comment in halo the flood (CE) that chief gets caught off gaurd by an enemy simply because he is used to his teammates being there to cover his back.

Im all for the squad based elements, i think that bungie needs to add the team health indicator and the blue/green and red team status lights to the hud that the spartans use to acknowledge orders from other teammates, it would add alot to gameplay.

I know that bungie will probably introduce another firefight type gameplay into Reach, it fits perfectly with the planet being under invasion.

Thoughts? Comments?



  • 09.21.2009 5:02 PM PDT

"Don't you know?...Spartans never die".

im only gonna bump this once because everyone must be off playing odst

  • 09.21.2009 5:44 PM PDT
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Yes think about it,
Halo 3 ODST comes out on the first day of Fall
and the name of this game Halo Reach
Fall of Reach=Halo book in the Haloo book they had no sheilds
In ODST they have no shield,you see where im getting at?

[Edited on 09.21.2009 5:48 PM PDT]

  • 09.21.2009 5:47 PM PDT

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Yes think about it,
Halo 3 ODST comes out on the first day of Fall
and the name of this game Halo Reach
Fall of Reach=Halo book in the Haloo book they had no sheilds
In ODST they have no shield,you see where im getting at?

No, when Reach fell, Spartans did have Shields. I am pretty sure we can expect Halo Reach's entirety to be played during the battle for Reach, in Mk V armor.

  • 09.21.2009 5:50 PM PDT

"Don't you know?...Spartans never die".

It would be cool to see the spartans progress and eventually obtain the Mjolnir armor and then defend reach

  • 09.21.2009 5:54 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Sneaky Mike
It would be cool to see the spartans progress and eventually obtain the Mjolnir armor and then defend reach

I really think that would just be too much content for one game, Fallout DID pull it off, but is there multiplayer in Fallout? No.
A huge campaign like that won't fit on the disk with multiplayer. Now if Reach was a TWO disk game (One Campaign disk, one Multiplayer disk. The way I ALWAYS thought they should do it.) Reach would be AWESOME.

  • 09.21.2009 5:56 PM PDT

"Don't you know?...Spartans never die".

Two disk is the way to go, like ODST, they dont have to dumb things down for space issues and we get more story and content

  • 09.21.2009 5:58 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Sneaky Mike
Two disk is the way to go, like ODST, they dont have to dumb things down for space issues and we get more story and content

Only thing is this is a new Engine, in 3 years, making a 2 disk game on a brand new engine is a crazy feat, I really don't see it happening. Unfortunate.

  • 09.21.2009 5:59 PM PDT
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I think the OP is entirely correct. If Reach is, as I hope, a more tactical and less 'jump and gun' style of game, ODST would be the perfect way of shifting the Halo playing community towards the new game style.

Having single player and multiplayer on two disks would be difficult, but I can see it happening. If they really need to boost the space available for single player (which hopefully they will, I'm looking forward to an epically sized game) then putting multiplayer on a second disk is the best way to achieve that.

If you look at Halo: ODST, its continued production does not make much sense, unless it fits into the larger Bungie plan. If Bungie hopes to move Halo gameplay forward, by implementing major changes in Halo: Reach, which will be necessary to keep the series fresh, ODST provides the opportunity to prepare their fans for those changes.

Notice, in not a few reviews, there were complaints that Halo gameplay is becoming old, I think Bungie knows this, and ODST was the beginnings of a movement towards something else.

  • 09.21.2009 9:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: think that bungie needs to add the team health indicator and the blue/green and red team status lights to the hud that the spartans use to acknowledge orders from other teammates, it would add alot to gameplay.
2nd this,Halo in tactics formation would be great (halo3 is like that when you have really great team or friends)
Im all for the hud bar show your teammates life.

  • 09.21.2009 10:17 PM PDT

wont there be to many lights and bars if they did that?

  • 09.21.2009 10:25 PM PDT

Perhaps if you looked at the kills other players have pop up, it would be useful but you keep the full screen to spot enemies. Better yet have a screen option to show it or not. Maybe even on the HUD the color of teammates darker or lighten depending on the health you have.

  • 09.21.2009 10:47 PM PDT
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  • 09.21.2009 11:40 PM PDT

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I think you might actually be onto something. Since I first played Halo I've loved it, but I've also always wanted a more tactical playing halo as well.

As far as the multiple discs goes, what if the first disc was an install disc, and the second was the play disc. You could install both if you wanted, but only the first one would need to be. Then you wouldn't have to keep switching back and forth when you wanted to change from SP to MP.

  • 09.22.2009 1:27 AM PDT

Mind, body and soul, possibly my sole properties

After playing ODST for a while I agree even more, this seems very likely. 5 player squad, teamwork and tactics it all makes sense. Also, how it's supposed to be a "darker" style of Halo, Reach is probably going to be even more so because of the lack of "good" surrounding Reach. The flashbacks, although I'm hoping Reach doesn't use flashbacks. I'm sure there's a bunch more things that might be preparing players for Reach.

  • 09.24.2009 5:03 PM PDT

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so halo 3 odst does not come with halo reach beta???? when is it!
abd by thew way i do think your right about this preparing thing

  • 09.24.2009 5:08 PM PDT

Mind, body and soul, possibly my sole properties

ODST comes with the beta invite, you have to wait until the beta starts to download it though.

  • 09.24.2009 5:09 PM PDT

This is interesting, about the Fall of Reach and ODST was available the first day of fall. I truly hope they include the team factor that is introduced in ODST. One thing I'm really looking forward to though is the new graphics/color scheme for the Mark V armor.

  • 09.24.2009 5:11 PM PDT

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  • 09.24.2009 5:12 PM PDT

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I would like a squad-based FPS with the classic Halo gameplay. Keep the same formula, just add classes to campaign (like the Spartans had in the novels) and 4 commands on the dpad.

Up - move to where I'm aiming
Down - regroup on me
Left - weapons free/hold fire
Right - spread out/pull together

The 5 in the banner would be the 5 in the squad. This would mean 5 player coop. They would be Spartans from Team Beta (the only team on Reach with at least 5 members in it who weren't crippled from the fall to the surface). Their specialties could be based on the Spartans we know from Blue Team.

A support/explosives. A recon/scout. A soldier/assault. An engineer/cqb. A sniper/ranged.

Maybe in SP you could change back and forth between squad members and use their different specialties to your advantage. And in coop you would choose who you want to play as.

  • 09.24.2009 5:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sneaky Mike
Two disk is the way to go, like ODST, they dont have to dumb things down for space issues and we get more story and content
When installed to a hard drive it's only 3.5gb.

  • 09.24.2009 5:49 PM PDT