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Subject: Halo ODST sucks!

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I don't believe that the game "sucks," but I will say that its replay value is extremely low and the achievements were way to easy. Being able to beat a game and wrap up most of its achievements in one sitting is something I would expect from a LIVE arcade download, not a Bungie product.

[Edited on 09.25.2009 8:33 AM PDT]

  • 09.25.2009 2:28 AM PDT

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Its because there is no major competitive MP element. Luckily I think the campaign is better or I would be upset. Halo 3's campaign I only beat for achievements.
You just summed it up exactly.

Competitiveness and achievements. That is all that the current generation of gamers seem to care about.

Bungie made this game as it is. People need to quit expecting it to be what they want it to be.


Well some people are just naturally competitive and I think if your an MP fan, you have to consider whether ODST is the right decision. I'm competitive at school and games etc.

However, I think, the vast majority of people who don't like are just not going to purchase ODST, rather then complain. I suppose that fits in not expecting it to be what they want it to be.

So far ODST seems like the best Halo campaign I have played, the one thing for cutting the MP is that the campaign actually seems to be good. However, I would have liked a competitive ODST MP, that would have made it a "complete package".

But I understood what I was buying, and I bought ODST mainly because I've been playing Halo for 4 years now.
I understand if people realise that this game is not what they want to play and do not buy it, but to buy it and complain on the forums about how much they don't like it... That's just like a spoilt two year old who throws a tantrum because he didn't get the flavour of ice cream he wanted. Makes me sick.

Halo 3 ODST isn't Halo 3 multiplayer. If a MP fan bought the game and didn't like it, they should just say, "Ah well, it's not for me" and get over it.

If I order a meal and it doesn't end up being as tasty as I thought it would be, I'm not going to storm into the kitchen and rant at the chef because he couldn't cater specifically to my tastes.


tru7h

you dont like it, fine, go home and play something else instead of trolling and complaining

i slowly began disliking halo 3 MP, so i played gears without going on about it, just move on instead of being so spoilt. yes you spent $60 on it, understandable anger there, but it was your choice to blindly believe "this will be amazing" everything can fail, nothing is garunteed (sp?)

  • 09.25.2009 2:45 AM PDT

Knight Of Steel.

Halo 3: ODST Exceeded my expectations. One of the best halo games i've played, yet. And it beat Halo 3's campaign.

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actuelly if you think of it there's 4 map packs in disc 2 that are dlc, one is free but others cost which helps make up retail price and sure you might already have them but now you have two lots.

and why would they be free later? the maps may be dlc that COSTS later but not free.

Also the disc 1 is retail price for me, i enjoyed it and it allows you to get recon so just look at things this way.

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I genuinely think it was worth more than the mere £35 I paid for it.

Campaign is easily the best since CE, the pistol is awesome, there's now a new dynamic to my halo experience playing as an ODST, Visr mode is great and multiplayer medals when scoring is on!!!

Firefight - Already becoming one of my most memorable Halo experiences, time flies by when playing this.

For this alone I think competes with many next-gen games out there reatailing for £40.

Now add on top of this the other features we get. A separate game disc for Halo 3 complete with all multiplayer maps. (I do however this is a cunning strategy by Bungie as its basically going to eventually force people to buy ODST in order to gain a full experience of Halo 3 multiplayer) The mythic disc also acts as a replacement for the problems some had with the Halo 3 disc ie not loading maps.

On top of this we get the chance to unlock Recon, personally I would have preferred that Recon was purely awarded for reasons previous. Anyway I don't really care for it that much lol, but I know a lot of people do, so thats also a bonus. :)

  • 09.25.2009 3:27 AM PDT

Posted by: holypintobean
I must say TheEasy1JM I tip my hat to you for having the bravery , or foolishness whichever, to post such a topic here. What with all the "Call a whambulance" [very original btw], "YOU TROLL!", and "Nobody gives two craps what you think". A very admirable move, in a biased forum of course.

Most of your arguments are well thought out and all of them have no contradiction towards each other, and I agree with you that ODST was not worth $60. I can honestly say I would not pay full price for only one feature of any game not even GOW2 Horde which I still have fun in to this day. The claims of buying ODST soley for FireFight, better be a complete exaggeration to get a point across. The maps included are a great plus, but get this, only for newcomers.

Look it's very simple to understand what has happend here, those who are stuck on the bungie train pay as much attention as your brain washed mind permits. Ok so Bungie released the Legendary map pack, besides ruining one of the best maps of CE, it was alright. Here's the tricky part though they made it required to get the full experience of multiplayer. Ok so they cornered a lot of people into buying that DLC, as if that wasn't a dirty enough buisness scheme, they release the Mythic MP. Looks like the CEO of Microsoft will get that island after all, he just needs to make this MP required as well. So now you need to also buy a MP with a map [Sandbox] that looks like it was designed by second graders. And to put the icing on the crap cake they release ODST with the same maps you just spent $20+ on and Halo averaging $30-$60 on, now you have to buy a "completely new game" for 60 more dollars , true halo fans have just spent $140 plus $20 more dollars for future DLC and don't forget the Heroic MP that many inpatient fans spent on. So let's see $170 worst case for those true Halo fanboys and for reasons not known to man, they feel like the price is just? Might as well start wearing tight purple pants and leather jackets and go buy the complete Guitar Hero set. This can be completely overlooked if you're new to Halo though.

Let's just face facts, no matter what intellectual level a person is on, they could never convince the people on this forum that they got one pulled over on them, even on a big time scale like this. Heck I wouldn't be suprised if Bungie killed all their parents, burned there homes down, beat them senseless, and smashed their hopes and dreams only to be awarded for presistant "effort" to bring them down. I do believe these people think it's a real good game, but because of what bungie has done to these people. Bungie's popularity is so big that it makes people believe it's a good game, like mind tricks. When really it's just about or not more than subpar.

Now about the actual gameplay of this game. The drastic change from a run and gun game to a more strategic type was very risky and took some getting used to but for the most part worked out. As for FF nothing new there but as much as it has been used in many games it's always a fun addition, and in ODST this was no exception. I feel that they were trying to get past the oversaturated colors from halo 3 so much so that some parts were close to unplayable withouth the night vision, they could have simply toned the colors down a bit. Also the lack of not being able to dual wield is almost as ridiculous as not having guns with flashlights in doom 3. These ODST can walk faster than the Chief with the detachable weapons but somehow can not endure the strength to pick up two pistols? Also I know this game is its own "entity" due to the standards of full games and expansions, but in heart it's an expansion, so shouldn't expansions add more content in game. I mean two new useless weapons? oh yes and the addition, moreover subtraction, of no dual wielding and being an ODST. To conclude the gameplay, I do respect Bungie on making the game harder to beat than previous titles however.

Overall this is a repackaged Halo 3 with some modifications. For those who haven't tried ODST but have played H3 let's put it like this: Pretend it's halo 3 but, you die easier, it's less colorful, if you run and gun you're dead (even in normal), and you are not a super soldier, the rest remains the same. What can I say about ODST? Well I don't think this game is horrible, at most it's a good game at worst a disappointment. I did not have any expectations for this game I just wanted to play it and see how it was now I know. Now what do I think of ODST price wise? Well for the hardships all the Halo fans have gone through It's complete and utter bull crap and a ripoff. Those new to Halo it's a very good welcome and is worth close to every dime. But truthfully there's not many new people coming into the Halo experience. The funny thing about my post is that I really do feel for the Halo community for spending so much money on a single part of this franchise, only to be frowned upon and flamed. I like Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, heck even parts of ODST are enjoyable (Halo Wars was not to my likings, I'm a PC RTS'er), but I'm not in a state where I can't think for myself and see when I am getting ripped off. If you can't get over Halo and have been turned into a zombie I am sorry for wasting your time and I hope you enjoy ODST until Reach. But if there is still even a hint of sanity inside of anyone in this forum, please heed my words and notice a hoodwink when you see one. I'm not trying to get you guys to have an empiphany and demand a refund or not buy the game, I simply ask of you to notice the pure dog s**t Bungie or Microsoft (whoever the culprit) is making you go through. Excuse my French but it is more than necessary.

I would like to close my opinion with two things. One- for those few of you who think this is the best game ever (even best game of the franchise), I am sorry that you grew up or never experienced any other games, I truly am. There should be a donation program to give you guys money to buy a wider variety of games, that or you're also brainwashed and sorry for wasting your time once again. And two- for those of you less mature, sorry I mean "witty", that will say something along the lines of "who gives a crap about what you think" or "go cry somewhere else you cry baby, whiner, troll, ect.". I'm entitled to my opinion and so are you and any negative opinions are worthless to me, IMO of course

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  • 09.25.2009 7:31 AM PDT

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Why is Bungie always blamed for the price? And cool story bro.

  • 09.25.2009 7:39 AM PDT

Got the skills for the kills for the highlight reels!

Why'd you buy it then? go return it

  • 09.25.2009 7:40 AM PDT

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  • 09.25.2009 7:42 AM PDT

One of the few and the proud, a Mythic Conqueror, I am.

Posted by: TheEasy1JM
Just bought my pre-ordered copy of ODST tonight. Picked it up at 12:22 am and quickly drove it home to play. Already had friends lined up to do 4 player co-op. $60.00 for 3 new multiplayer maps that will be free in another 2 months, and a 5 hour campaign... That doesn't sound good I thought, but then this is Halo and we have all of the previous titles and loved each one. That list includes Halo Wars... Therefore I thought that this one has to be good. Long story short, the 4 of us all agreed that this is a terrible game which is chock full of shortcuts and unpolished hogwash. I plan to take my copy back to the store when it opens for my money back! Bungie - This is not worth $60.00 - not even close. This is a crappy game and that is coming from a Halo-fanboy. You guys lost a customer tonight. I won't buy another one of your titles. I am extremely disappointed by this game.
Does anyone find it funny that, given the times he suggests, he couldn't have been playing the game for more than two hours before he posted this thread? That is all assuming that he lives in the U.S. If he happened to live in the Eastern Time Zone, then he would have posted one hour before the game released.

  • 09.25.2009 7:43 AM PDT

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For me, its a 7.5/10 if I go story wise.
If I go for the whole package
+Maps
+Reach BETA
+FF
+Recon

Then around a 8.5/10

  • 09.25.2009 7:43 AM PDT

I bet the OP will be in line for Reach in 2010!

  • 09.25.2009 7:45 AM PDT

If you don't like it, don't complain for everyone to see it. Go ahead and return your game, but posting on here was a waste of time and is gunna piss a lot of ppl off.

  • 09.25.2009 8:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: holypintobean
I must say TheEasy1JM I tip my hat to you for having the bravery , or foolishness whichever, to post such a topic here. What with all the "Call a whambulance" [very original btw], "YOU TROLL!", and "Nobody gives two craps what you think". A very admirable move, in a biased forum of course.

Most of your arguments are well thought out and all of them have no contradiction towards each other, and I agree with you that ODST was not worth $60. I can honestly say I would not pay full price for only one feature of any game not even GOW2 Horde which I still have fun in to this day. The claims of buying ODST soley for FireFight, better be a complete exaggeration to get a point across. The maps included are a great plus, but get this, only for newcomers.

Look it's very simple to understand what has happend here, those who are stuck on the bungie train pay as much attention as your brain washed mind permits. Ok so Bungie released the Legendary map pack, besides ruining one of the best maps of CE, it was alright. Here's the tricky part though they made it required to get the full experience of multiplayer. Ok so they cornered a lot of people into buying that DLC, as if that wasn't a dirty enough buisness scheme, they release the Mythic MP. Looks like the CEO of Microsoft will get that island after all, he just needs to make this MP required as well. So now you need to also buy a MP with a map [Sandbox] that looks like it was designed by second graders. And to put the icing on the crap cake they release ODST with the same maps you just spent $20+ on and Halo averaging $30-$60 on, now you have to buy a "completely new game" for 60 more dollars , true halo fans have just spent $140 plus $20 more dollars for future DLC and don't forget the Heroic MP that many inpatient fans spent on. So let's see $170 worst case for those true Halo fanboys and for reasons not known to man, they feel like the price is just? Might as well start wearing tight purple pants and leather jackets and go buy the complete Guitar Hero set. This can be completely overlooked if you're new to Halo though.

Let's just face facts, no matter what intellectual level a person is on, they could never convince the people on this forum that they got one pulled over on them, even on a big time scale like this. Heck I wouldn't be suprised if Bungie killed all their parents, burned there homes down, beat them senseless, and smashed their hopes and dreams only to be awarded for presistant "effort" to bring them down. I do believe these people think it's a real good game, but because of what bungie has done to these people. Bungie's popularity is so big that it makes people believe it's a good game, like mind tricks. When really it's just about or not more than subpar.

Now about the actual gameplay of this game. The drastic change from a run and gun game to a more strategic type was very risky and took some getting used to but for the most part worked out. As for FF nothing new there but as much as it has been used in many games it's always a fun addition, and in ODST this was no exception. I feel that they were trying to get past the oversaturated colors from halo 3 so much so that some parts were close to unplayable withouth the night vision, they could have simply toned the colors down a bit. Also the lack of not being able to dual wield is almost as ridiculous as not having guns with flashlights in doom 3. These ODST can walk faster than the Chief with the detachable weapons but somehow can not endure the strength to pick up two pistols? Also I know this game is its own "entity" due to the standards of full games and expansions, but in heart it's an expansion, so shouldn't expansions add more content in game. I mean two new useless weapons? oh yes and the addition, moreover subtraction, of no dual wielding and being an ODST. To conclude the gameplay, I do respect Bungie on making the game harder to beat than previous titles however.

Overall this is a repackaged Halo 3 with some modifications. For those who haven't tried ODST but have played H3 let's put it like this: Pretend it's halo 3 but, you die easier, it's less colorful, if you run and gun you're dead (even in normal), and you are not a super soldier, the rest remains the same. What can I say about ODST? Well I don't think this game is horrible, at most it's a good game at worst a disappointment. I did not have any expectations for this game I just wanted to play it and see how it was now I know. Now what do I think of ODST price wise? Well for the hardships all the Halo fans have gone through It's complete and utter bull crap and a ripoff. Those new to Halo it's a very good welcome and is worth close to every dime. But truthfully there's not many new people coming into the Halo experience. The funny thing about my post is that I really do feel for the Halo community for spending so much money on a single part of this franchise, only to be frowned upon and flamed. I like Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, heck even parts of ODST are enjoyable (Halo Wars was not to my likings, I'm a PC RTS'er), but I'm not in a state where I can't think for myself and see when I am getting ripped off. If you can't get over Halo and have been turned into a zombie I am sorry for wasting your time and I hope you enjoy ODST until Reach. But if there is still even a hint of sanity inside of anyone in this forum, please heed my words and notice a hoodwink when you see one. I'm not trying to get you guys to have an empiphany and demand a refund or not buy the game, I simply ask of you to notice the pure dog s**t Bungie or Microsoft (whoever the culprit) is making you go through. Excuse my French but it is more than necessary.

I would like to close my opinion with two things. One- for those few of you who think this is the best game ever (even best game of the franchise), I am sorry that you grew up or never experienced any other games, I truly am. There should be a donation program to give you guys money to buy a wider variety of games, that or you're also brainwashed and sorry for wasting your time once again. And two- for those of you less mature, sorry I mean "witty", that will say something along the lines of "who gives a crap about what you think" or "go cry somewhere else you cry baby, whiner, troll, ect.". I'm entitled to my opinion and so are you and any negative opinions are worthless to me, IMO of course

Thank you for reading my novel for those intelligent enough to get even 1/3 through


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I never thought that the Bungie community had such balls to do this. I'm glad there's still some of us left. Obviously I completely and utterly disagree with this so called "novel" but it doesn't mean I don't respect your opinion and I don't see your points to be valid. I'm just going to say that it's worth the money to some people. Now a spoiled teen like myself obviously doesn't care about the price of games that much anymore. On the other hand, my friends, who are not the wealthiest in the pack, have been explaining to me how it's been getting harder and harder to achieve such games as ODST, Left 4 Dead 2 and COD 6 and I listen to them. They explain to me that they think the prices for these games are ridiculous and if this keeps going on, eventually games for NATAL will be $100+. That's like buying an N64 about a year after release! I totally understand that it's getting hard to keep buying these games but really, it's up to the consumer if it's worth it or not. I'm not really even much of a saver. At the moment I've got $0 in my wallet. That's because I spent the last bit of it on an iTunes gift card to get the ODST Soundtrack (Which is $20 so I have to go get another card, but it'll be worth it).

Now don't take this in any offense but ODST is honestly, IMO (as you say), the best game of 2009! Now if BioShock 2 came out on the original date, that would without a doubt be the best game of '09. Anyhow, ODST's whole plot may be short and sweet but you can't look me straight in the eyes with a straight face saying that ODST has no replay value. You just can't. Not to mention Firefight. Now for the three maps, yes, I agree, that's a little upsetting that they included 3 extra maps and just took the source of the whole Multiplayer portion of Halo 3, remodeled some UI enhancements for the menu and called it a whole new Multiplayer experience. I agree, now that you've brought it to my attention, I must say that the whole tally of everything related to Halo 3 that I've bought has kinda made me weep a bit inside. The thought that I bought the Halo 3 Collectors Edition (75), Heroic, Legendary, Mythic (30) and ODST Collectors Edition (100), which is $205 worth of 130 dollars of addons and about 60 of which were wasted (I mean the 3 map packs and the multiplayer portion of ODST) kinda upsets me and wants me to kill MSFT (who is the culprit of this mess) even more. Honestly, Bungie is the little puppy dog with the tail between it's legs. MSFT is the big bad 10 yr old who likes to boss that puppy around for it's own benefit.

Anyhow, yes, I agree with some parts that ODST's pricing was above what it needed to be, but at the same time I disagree. I like to believe that Halo 3's whole Multiplayer experience was packed into ODST as an extra (which is what Sketch said on the ODST Pre-Launch episode of Gametrailers). Honestly it is. (I use this example a lot but it works) For example, BioShock. IMO, best game ever developed. Guess what BioShock has. Singleplayer. Anything else? Nope, just singleplayer with about 9 or 10 levels. How much was it worth? $60 with LE pricing at $100. What comes with ODST? Single-Player, Firefight, Theater, Extras, and the whole Multiplayer experience. Really, nobody complained one bit when BioShock came out.

  • 09.25.2009 8:08 AM PDT

The name's Ian, Game Designer at Whisper Game Studios, very off-and-on Bungie.net visitor and avid Bungie fan overall. Message me if you wish.

I'm just saying, ODST could have a lot less and cost a lot more. The only reason people are complaining is because of quality, I get that but you're getting more than you paid for IMO so don't complain about quantity and getting three maps. You're not exactly buying the 2nd disc, you're just buying ODST and the other disc is an added extra.

So there's my rant, do with it what you may. I'm off to get some vidmasters ;)

  • 09.25.2009 8:10 AM PDT

WHERE DID THEY COME FROM!!!!

You dont like it, dont play it.

  • 09.25.2009 8:11 AM PDT

Whats your problem!!! I tons of people who would be willing to pay 100$ for ODST and the multiplayer maps. All I can say is don't play Halo or blog about it!

  • 09.25.2009 8:14 AM PDT

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Social Infection ftw

The campaign can be much longer if you get lost and enjoy the scenery. It's 4-5 hours if you rush it, which you're not supposed to.

The firefight mode is simply amazing.

The second disk is worth alot too, because it includes ALL maps.

You don't get 3 maps. You get 24. It's your fault for buying all the maps as soon as they were released.

  • 09.25.2009 8:16 AM PDT

Skillet was here and referred to himself in the third person.

Just addressing some issues here. One paragraph at a time...

Posted by: holypintobean
I must say TheEasy1JM I tip my hat to you for having the bravery , or foolishness whichever, to post such a topic here. What with all the "Call a whambulance" [very original btw], "YOU TROLL!", and "Nobody gives two craps what you think". A very admirable move, in a biased forum of course.


Of course the forum is biased. Which makes it foolishness, really.

Most of your arguments are well thought out and all of them have no contradiction towards each other, and I agree with you that ODST was not worth $60. I can honestly say I would not pay full price for only one feature of any game not even GOW2 Horde which I still have fun in to this day. The claims of buying ODST soley for FireFight, better be a complete exaggeration to get a point across. The maps included are a great plus, but get this, only for newcomers.

Pretty good point. But I disagree about that "only for newcomers" comment.

Look it's very simple to understand what has happend here, those who are stuck on the bungie train pay as much attention as your brain washed mind permits. Ok so Bungie released the Legendary map pack, besides ruining one of the best maps of CE, it was alright. Here's the tricky part though they made it required to get the full experience of multiplayer. Ok so they cornered a lot of people into buying that DLC, as if that wasn't a dirty enough buisness scheme, they release the Mythic MP. Looks like the CEO of Microsoft will get that island after all, he just needs to make this MP required as well. So now you need to also buy a MP with a map [Sandbox] that looks like it was designed by second graders. And to put the icing on the crap cake they release ODST with the same maps you just spent $20+ on and Halo averaging $30-$60 on, now you have to buy a "completely new game" for 60 more dollars , true halo fans have just spent $140 plus $20 more dollars for future DLC and don't forget the Heroic MP that many inpatient fans spent on. So let's see $170 worst case for those true Halo fanboys and for reasons not known to man, they feel like the price is just? Might as well start wearing tight purple pants and leather jackets and go buy the complete Guitar Hero set. This can be completely overlooked if you're new to Halo though.

I have to say this paragraph is pretty ridiculous. The idea that anyone who buys ODST and thinks it happens to be a great game is "brain washed by Bungie and can't see different" is just silly. Also saying Sandbox looks like it was designed by second graders is quite out of line. It looks a little dull (as does The Ark and Sandtrap) but that's the way it's meant to look regarding the art style. It's a dessert. Seriously. When was the last time you literally had three different maps in one? plus the full freedom to change everything in those three maps? I do agree with the statement about requiring DLC maps to play certain playlists though. It was a bit of a dick move and I was annoyed. I also got over it, so it doesn't matter.

Let's just face facts, no matter what intellectual level a person is on, they could never convince the people on this forum that they got one pulled over on them, even on a big time scale like this. Heck I wouldn't be suprised if Bungie killed all their parents, burned there homes down, beat them senseless, and smashed their hopes and dreams only to be awarded for presistant "effort" to bring them down. I do believe these people think it's a real good game, but because of what bungie has done to these people. Bungie's popularity is so big that it makes people believe it's a good game, like mind tricks. When really it's just about or not more than subpar.

Again... so anyone who thinks ODST is a good game is somehow brain washed by big, evil, Bungie?

Shame on you.

Now about the actual gameplay of this game. The drastic change from a run and gun game to a more strategic type was very risky and took some getting used to but for the most part worked out. As for FF nothing new there but as much as it has been used in many games it's always a fun addition, and in ODST this was no exception. I feel that they were trying to get past the oversaturated colors from halo 3 so much so that some parts were close to unplayable withouth the night vision, they could have simply toned the colors down a bit. Also the lack of not being able to dual wield is almost as ridiculous as not having guns with flashlights in doom 3. These ODST can walk faster than the Chief with the detachable weapons but somehow can not endure the strength to pick up two pistols? Also I know this game is its own "entity" due to the standards of full games and expansions, but in heart it's an expansion, so shouldn't expansions add more content in game. I mean two new useless weapons? oh yes and the addition, moreover subtraction, of no dual wielding and being an ODST. To conclude the gameplay, I do respect Bungie on making the game harder to beat than previous titles however.

All I can say is "WOW". Seriously. How on God's green Earth is Firefight "nothing new" and "used in many games"? Last time I checked, Left 4 Dead sparked people's interest in the whole "fight never-ending waves of enemies with friends" mode but was sub-par because it was still a linear point A to point B gameplay style. Horde followed this and quite frankly, Epic botched that up pretty good. It was fun... but Firefight eclipses it in almost every way. Number 1, the game doesn't stop between each wave, the maps are made specifically for Firefight, not just carbon cut MP maps, the skulls add a seemingly random variation of difficulty to each round, and the Set, Round, Wave progression all flows perfectly.

Also, about the "colors" as you put it. The game is just as colorful as Halo 3, if not more-so. The only Halo 3 level that may have a broader color palate is The Covenant. I think you were trying to express your dislike of the brightness. But 60% of the game takes place at night. What do you expect?

Final point on this paragraph, is that you're wrong about the weapons. And dual wielding. You said the two new weapons are "useless"? What. The HELL? The automag on of the most useful weapons in the game, and the addition of the scope on the SMG and the fact that it's more powerful makes it great for ripping through Brute shields and armor in the first portions of the game. I'm guessing you're one of those that wants the BR back?

And about the dual wielding, it's not needed. There's no point in carrying two smgs or pistols... or even Brute plasma rifles. They went back to Halo CE's style of gunplay leaving you free to use your weapons, grenades, and melee at the same time. I always found dual wielding in Halo to be more of a nuisance than an actual feature. Looks cool... doesn't perform all that well.

Overall this is a repackaged Halo 3 with some modifications. For those who haven't tried ODST but have played H3 let's put it like this: Pretend it's halo 3 but, you die easier, it's less colorful, if you run and gun you're dead (even in normal), and you are not a super soldier, the rest remains the same. What can I say about ODST? Well I don't think this game is horrible, at most it's a good game at worst a disappointment. I did not have any expectations for this game I just wanted to play it and see how it was now I know. Now what do I think of ODST price wise? Well for the hardships all the Halo fans have gone through It's complete and utter bull crap and a ripoff. Those new to Halo it's a very good welcome and is worth close to every dime. But truthfully there's not many new people coming into the Halo experience. The funny thing about my post is that I really do feel for the Halo community for spending so much money on a single part of this franchise, only to be frowned upon and flamed. I like Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, heck even parts of ODST are enjoyable (Halo Wars was not to my likings, I'm a PC RTS'er), but I'm not in a state where I can't think for myself and see when I am getting ripped off. If you can't get over Halo and have been turned into a zombie I am sorry for wasting your time and I hope you enjoy ODST until Reach. But if there is still even a hint of sanity inside of anyone in this forum, please heed my words and notice a hoodwink when you see one. I'm not trying to get you guys to have an empiphany and demand a refund or not buy the game, I simply ask of you to notice the pure dog s**t Bungie or Microsoft (whoever the culprit) is making you go through. Excuse my French but it is more than necessary.

I would like to close my opinion with two things. One- for those few of you who think this is the best game ever (even best game of the franchise), I am sorry that you grew up or never experienced any other games, I truly am. There should be a donation program to give you guys money to buy a wider variety of games, that or you're also brainwashed and sorry for wasting your time once again. And two- for those of you less mature, sorry I mean "witty", that will say something along the lines of "who gives a crap about what you think" or "go cry somewhere else you cry baby, whiner, troll, ect.". I'm entitled to my opinion and so are you and any negative opinions are worthless to me, IMO of course.


ODST, is, in my opinion, the best Halo Campaign to date. It's one step above Halo CE. They used Halo 3 to take us back to the gameplay style of the first Halo, and added a brand new story on top of it. Not to mention Firefight, which might not be a new idea but is definitely the most perfect rendition of the idea so far.

Saying that it's Halo 3 repackaged is just insanity. Pure insanity. The only part of it that's repackaged is the multiplayer. And I can't hold that against Bungie.

  • 09.25.2009 8:19 AM PDT

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Let me give you a pointer you wont get your money back because the game is already open. Next time just rent the game before you buy it.

  • 09.25.2009 8:21 AM PDT

Posted by: Skillet98
Posted by: BrokenTrucker
This is a message to everyone:
QUIT complaining and slamming one another the fact of the matter is that americans are dicks. i know because i am one(american that is im not typically a dick just dont piss me off(hard to do)) what u need to remember is that were are not all cookie cutter versions of one one another we all like and dislike different things so what if you dont like odst go complain somwhere other than the halo odst forums you are going to ruin the game industry

government officials look at you complaining and see it as just another reason to shut the industry down that will mean no more great games, good games, ok games, or even crappy games
shut your mouths and take the game back

be warned that places like walmart do not take opened electronis back you can get a new one but you wont get your money back

last little bit
if you are going to bash me then you have to be atleast 18 years old i dont want to talk to a bunch of immature potty mouths


You're some guy to talk. I can't imagine someone with the grammar and punctuation of a 3rd grade drop-out can actually complain about people with a supposedly inferior IQ doing something as heinous as "bashing" him on the internet.

Anywho, nobody is "destroying the game industry" by complaining. The government doesn't regulate games at all, really. Unless a specific country is banning a game based on it's content. Which America usually never does.

The thought of the government restricting games because of a few people bickering at each other on a forum is downright silly.

'nuff said.


the fact that you called him an idiot then said "'nuff said" shows how stupid YOU are

  • 09.25.2009 8:43 AM PDT

Skillet was here and referred to himself in the third person.

Posted by: Tiny ninjaa
Posted by: Skillet98
Posted by: BrokenTrucker
This is a message to everyone:
QUIT complaining and slamming one another the fact of the matter is that americans are dicks. i know because i am one(american that is im not typically a dick just dont piss me off(hard to do)) what u need to remember is that were are not all cookie cutter versions of one one another we all like and dislike different things so what if you dont like odst go complain somwhere other than the halo odst forums you are going to ruin the game industry

government officials look at you complaining and see it as just another reason to shut the industry down that will mean no more great games, good games, ok games, or even crappy games
shut your mouths and take the game back

be warned that places like walmart do not take opened electronis back you can get a new one but you wont get your money back

last little bit
if you are going to bash me then you have to be atleast 18 years old i dont want to talk to a bunch of immature potty mouths


You're some guy to talk. I can't imagine someone with the grammar and punctuation of a 3rd grade drop-out can actually complain about people with a supposedly inferior IQ doing something as heinous as "bashing" him on the internet.

Anywho, nobody is "destroying the game industry" by complaining. The government doesn't regulate games at all, really. Unless a specific country is banning a game based on it's content. Which America usually never does.

The thought of the government restricting games because of a few people bickering at each other on a forum is downright silly.

'nuff said.


the fact that you called him an idiot then said "'nuff said" shows how stupid YOU are


Then again, you taking my "nuff said" out of context shows how stupid YOU are.

It's a vicious cycle.

  • 09.25.2009 8:54 AM PDT