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Posted by: elitehunter34
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How are they restricting your options? They created a product the way they intended it to be. Either you buy into it or you dont.
If you dont want to follow the constraints of the MM product then just dont play it. Do what I do and play 4 player games off of a single 360. You dont need MM for that. Heck I think you can even do 4 360s hooked up together on your LAN and play a 16 player game (havent tried it but I could).
There are options out there. All you have done at this point is complain about a product that Microsoft has come up with. They do not force you to use it.
Your restricting yourself to using it and not looking for other options. That is unfortunate.
As for pricing it is absolutely fair. They are giving you all the DLC for Halo 3 multiplayer as well as an entire new game. The total cost of the DLC is what $30 - $40 straight up? That means your paying only $20 - $30 for a whole new game. A pretty good deal if you as me.
If it is that big of a deal then suggest that ODST be avaible for purchase with out the Halo 3 multiplayer experience. If Microsoft decides to do that then you will see a much lower cost for the game.
As for being ripped off, I dont think anybody has been ripped off. You all made choices that lead you to where your at. If your not happy about it then do something, sell your game. Dont purchase any more DLC. Or as you so wonderfully put it "don't play it".
Really simple choices people. Just look at them instead of flailing around like a kid throwing a fit. You choices are your own, not Microsofts. You have only yourself to blame if your unhappy with your purchase (unless its a technical problem).
Ok, I think I need to be more specific. Here's the problem: I like Halo ODST and h3s matchmaking, but I think that some aspects of it are bad/unfair. First I'll talk about h3s matchmaking.
First of all, please, please be realistic. The reason why we have xbl is because it is a lot easier to just play online anytime you want, then to set up a LAN party with 16 people. I and so do most people don't have the time and/or number of people to have LAN parties. So, we have matchmaking. The problem is with halo 3 is that they have released several maps at a cost of 10 dollars each, so if you bought all the maps you're spending an extra $30. As much as I wish MS would just let Bungie release the maps for free, they don't, so you're given the option to buy them. For some reason, Bungie has made nearly every playlist so that you HAVE to have the maps to play them. So, if I want to play mm(which gives h3 significantly more replay value and is something millions of people do), I am forced to buy the maps unless I want to play social slayer all day. So what I suggest is that h3 should set up the matchmaking system so that if you have the maps, it will match you with others with the maps, and if you don't, it will also match you with others that don't have the maps.
Now on to ODST
I do think that ODST's price is unfair because the only new things are firefight and a short campaign. They just repackage the multiplayer. Essentially it is an expansion pack, priced as a full game. How is it in any way not an expansion pack? It uses the same engine only slightly tweaked and identical multiplayer. If I didn't buy H3, then it would be a good deal, but since I did (and probably everyone else that has ODST) I am getting ripped off. Regardless of how good the game is, that does not give Microsoft the right to make the price unfair.
That is my opinion.
Ok sir, you needed a total of thirty dollars to get all the maps via DLC correct? Thats not hard money. Thirty dollars is easy to get. Stop drinking you starbucks, or smoking you cigarettes and you can get thirty dollars pretty easily.
The game is considered to be an expansion because it runs off of the Halo 3 engine. It's priced as a full game because it comes with Firefight, the new maps, chance for Recon, new campaign experience, and other benefits such as the Reach beta, and all the fun times you get from playing ODST.
Now if you have issues with the price, I'll try my best to help clarify. I'm no marketing genius, but this is based off of observation's I've seen from MS and their pricing.
Firefight: $10
Campaign: $10
Reach beta: $10
Recon: $7
New Maps: $10
That leaves us to $47. But even a twelve year old would agree with me when I say the remainder is to make a profit. No one Is going to spend money to create something, then not make a profit off of it, and consider it a job.
Be realistic. If you feel ripped off, go to gamestop and trade you game in.
Then, get a job and get your money back. Your the fool who spent your money in the first place.