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Subject: The Impact of Classes on Reach's Multiplayer
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One problem: ODSTs and Hunters don't have energy shields. Brutes, Elites, and SPARTANs do. Thread = PHAIL

  • 09.22.2009 7:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: arthrax2
actually no, halo is not cod or tf2. if they went to copy their gameplay style, there would be no point in playing halo anymore.
Wait one second now, you think that Halo invented the no-classes, fight-over-weapons-and-powerups-on-map gameplay? No. It sure didn't. If adding classes would turn it into COD or TF2, then NOT having classes has already made Halo 1, 2, and 3 clones of Quake, Doom, etc.You say everyone wants classes, which is not true. you hvae no evidence in anything like that.Ummm. Never said that. I said if Bungie wants classes, there will be classes. Like with dual wielding. im pretty sure they dont, because, again, you have no evidence. youre just taking this kids idea and saying its bungie's masterpiece. learn how to debateAnd you have NO EVIDENCE THAT THEY DONT WANT TO TRY SOMETHING NEW. Thats just it. Neither of us knows. All Im saying is IF Bungie wants classes, they will be in there. YOU are saying "no bungie do not want classes bcuz classes are call of doodie" and other immature, factless things like that. The banner does hint at classes, though, based on the Spartan classes from the novels. and apparently, you arent an actual gamer, because you think halo wars is good.And apparently Bungie aren't real gamers either. what do you mean by "umm, no it wouldn't."? you have nothing to back that up, youre just saying an irrelevant opinion with nothing behind it.Kind of like... what you did? who said bungie wants to make reach like this? this topic is just a wish for the multiplayer to be different. not a bungie-written topic.Ummm. Definitely never said Bungie WANTED to make the game like what the OP suggested. In fact I think that kind of game would either be broken in terms of gameplay, or would break the canon (Spartan could not be balanced against an ODST). What I clearly stated was IF BUNGIE WANTS CLASSES, THERE WILL BE CLASSES, NO MATTER IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. AND VISE VERSA. What YOU said was "no way bungie do not want classes why u may ask simple its bcuz classes are stupid and would make this into call of doodie or team fatress 2" ... more or less.

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"ODSTs and Hunters don't have energy shields. Brutes, Elites, and SPARTANs do."

You can take away the shields of the Brutes and Elites in order to balance things (to allow Elites greater speed and Brutes greater starting health). I don't care about your continuity. It's a game-- things change.

I want something new-- I don't want Halo 3, Part More.

I want something simple-- easy to understand like Super Mario Kart. You don't need a bar graph to know the Hunter is the "fat kid."

  • 09.22.2009 11:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: ElectrcPstoleer
"ODSTs and Hunters don't have energy shields. Brutes, Elites, and SPARTANs do."

You can take away the shields of the Brutes and Elites in order to balance things (to allow Elites greater speed and Brutes greater starting health). I don't care about your continuity. It's a game-- things change.

I want something new-- I don't want Halo 3, Part More.

I want something simple-- easy to understand like Super Mario Kart. You don't need a bar graph to know the Hunter is the "fat kid."

Couldn't we keep all the classes as Spartans? the Spartans were really organized into classes in the novels. Just take a look at Blue Team. John was the assault; standard soldier. Kelly was the recon; quick and nimble. Sam was the explosives; slow but strong. Kurt was the technician; good at close range. Linda was the sniper; gifted at range.

Those could be the 5 classes. Support, Recon, Assault, Technician, and Sniper, from left to right in the banner above. We know Blue Team had specialities, so its no doubt who we will be playing as in REACH (Red Team) would have had Spartans with similar specialties.

Classes.

  • 09.22.2009 11:34 PM PDT

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Everything would have to be changed. I mean everything... the fundamental physics of the game, weapons, sizes playable races, etc. You can't just take an FPS and add classes and its gravy. It wouldn't be Halo, and I wouldn't buy it, regardless if it got the reviews to be the best video game ever.

  • 09.22.2009 11:42 PM PDT

oyur kidding.

someone plays to much cod

  • 09.23.2009 12:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
It would be better if we would all be Spartans (or Elites) with different physizues and strengths/weaknesses, as described in the novel. They would be based on the Spartans from campaign most likely, who would probably be based on the Spartans in the novels.

From left to right. Novel Spartan = Reach Spartan = Class.

Sam = Unknown = Support
Kelly = Spartan-320 = Recon
John = Spartan-259 = Assault
Kurt = Unknown = Technician
Linda = Unknown = Sniper

They would all have their own strengths/weakness/abilities which balance out their spawn weapons. The maps would be better off larger if this was to happen as classes on something small wouldn't work too well.

They would all be balanced by Bungie and not customizable, so it would be balanced.


Nice, a completely unoriginal class system, just what Halo needs. Now if something unique were to be done I could except it but this, no.

[Edited on 09.23.2009 3:57 AM PDT]

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Posted by: HLG DeceptiCat
oyur kidding.

someone plays to much cod


Yeah eh does, I love playing as a 12 foot colony of worms with a fuel rod cannon in cod. Oh wait cod gives you custom loadouts not classes.

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wow youre amazing at arguing. your comebacks are like "i know you are, but what am I?". and you assume random -blam!- that noone gives a -blam!- about. you DID say that bungie wanted a different perspective, which you have no evidence. and you assumed that my spelling and grammar are like
no way bungie do not want classes why u may ask simple its bcuz classes are stupid and would make this into call of doodie or team fatress 2
because you are so insecure that you cannot bear having lost anything in any argument whatsoever. so you go ahead and lie and say that im terrible at spelling and grammar, which in fact, is not true. what is true, is that you cannot hold up an argument.
i could correct you in many ways by everything you say, but actually, i don't want to waste my time, arguing with some 11-year-old about an imaginary wish for a new halo game. i actually have a life, unlike you, you know.

  • 09.23.2009 7:15 AM PDT

Shields: You can have characters whose shields regenerate and characters that do not-- the Elite for example, I would not give him regenerative shields like the Spartan; instead, the Elite has unlimited invisibility (think Klingon Bird of Prey).

Wtf elites had shield energy beore spartans so why would their shields not recharge and have you seen a brute go berserk, fast as hell

  • 09.23.2009 8:53 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

With your system, why would anyone want to be anything but an Elite? They have regenerating shields, and Invisibility? Why be a brute with retarded armor, but strong melees? You would never get close enough.

Ooo ooo, Let me be a grunt so I die in one shot!

  • 09.23.2009 8:55 AM PDT

Made by Cheewawa too...

  • 09.23.2009 8:59 AM PDT

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No. Whats the point? Originally I thought it might be cool but the more you think about it the more you realise it just wouldnt be Halo. It would be Battlefield with Halo outfits.

  • 09.23.2009 9:30 AM PDT

It will kill custom games.

  • 09.23.2009 9:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: arthrax2
you DID say that bungie wanted a different perspective, which you have no evidence.
I said:And what if Bungie wants a different perspective, too?keyword: WHAT IF.i could correct you in many ways by everything you say, but actually, i don't want to waste my time, arguing with some 11-year-old about an imaginary wish for a new halo game. i actually have a life, unlike you, you know.I'm going to correct a few points here, too. I said nothing non-factual. I'm 19, will be 20 October 10th. Also I have a life. I'm a full time student with a full time job and plenty of friends that I hang out with and party with. So I don't know why you're assuming any differently.

Wait a second....

I know why! You said it best: because you are so insecure that you cannot bear having lost anything in any argument whatsoever. so you go ahead and lie

  • 09.23.2009 11:15 AM PDT

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I hope to god Halo Reach does not have classes, and plays in the same "style" as the other Halo games

  • 09.23.2009 11:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: Lunatic__Brandon
Nice, a completely unoriginal class system, just what Halo needs. Now if something unique were to be done I could except it but this, no.
Who cares if its not completely original? Halo wasn't completely original. The Halo NOVELS weren't completely original either, since the Spartans had those kinds of "Classes."

The unique part about this would be keeping Halo's feel of gameplay. The way you move, shoot, jump, etc. would all be the same, it would just be like having a game where you could choose a different class, like Zombies in Halo 3 (different speeds, weapons, shields, health, etc.), but with 5 options instead of 2.

  • 09.23.2009 11:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: Lunatic__Brandon
Nice, a completely unoriginal class system, just what Halo needs. Now if something unique were to be done I could except it but this, no.
Who cares if its not completely original? Halo wasn't completely original. The Halo NOVELS weren't completely original either, since the Spartans had those kinds of "Classes."

The unique part about this would be keeping Halo's feel of gameplay. The way you move, shoot, jump, etc. would all be the same, it would just be like having a game where you could choose a different class, like Zombies in Halo 3 (different speeds, weapons, shields, health, etc.), but with 5 options instead of 2.


Or we could see something new to FPS in general. Why do classes have to be generic if present? That would just make Reach less that it could be. Keep Halo the same if there is nothing new to do.

[Edited on 09.23.2009 11:51 AM PDT]

  • 09.23.2009 11:50 AM PDT

seriously, why argue over crap that most likely isn't going to happen like classes. i for one think they should just add brutes to the playable characters in multiplayer it would be nice to customize one and kick some ass

[Edited on 09.23.2009 12:18 PM PDT]

  • 09.23.2009 12:17 PM PDT

Posted by: ElectrcPstoleer
I have to agree that this is not Halo 4-- it could be focused on multiplayer with a brief campaign like ODST.


If Bungie jipped us out of a quality campaign in their last Halo game, I would probably shoot myself.

  • 09.23.2009 12:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Lunatic__Brandon
John = Spartan-259 = Assault


Wow. John is Spartan-117. You fail big time, buddy.

  • 09.23.2009 12:38 PM PDT

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Ummm.... Halo Wars had different gameplay but it was also a prologue to Halo 1.


I don't know if you noticed, but Halo Wars wasn't a FPS.

  • 09.23.2009 12:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Ummm.... Halo Wars had different gameplay but it was also a prologue to Halo 1.


I don't know if you noticed, but Halo Wars wasn't a FPS.


I don't think he did.

And Reach is actually more of a prologue to Halo 1. Halo Wars had entirely different characters. I don't even consider it Halo canon because first human contact with the Flood wasn't supposed to be until 2552.

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: ElectrcPstoleer
"ODSTs and Hunters don't have energy shields. Brutes, Elites, and SPARTANs do."

You can take away the shields of the Brutes and Elites in order to balance things (to allow Elites greater speed and Brutes greater starting health). I don't care about your continuity. It's a game-- things change.

I want something new-- I don't want Halo 3, Part More.

I want something simple-- easy to understand like Super Mario Kart. You don't need a bar graph to know the Hunter is the "fat kid."

Couldn't we keep all the classes as Spartans? the Spartans were really organized into classes in the novels. Just take a look at Blue Team. John was the assault; standard soldier. Kelly was the recon; quick and nimble. Sam was the explosives; slow but strong. Kurt was the technician; good at close range. Linda was the sniper; gifted at range.

Those could be the 5 classes. Support, Recon, Assault, Technician, and Sniper, from left to right in the banner above. We know Blue Team had specialities, so its no doubt who we will be playing as in REACH (Red Team) would have had Spartans with similar specialties.

Classes.



You could definitely have more than just two human classes.

  • 09.23.2009 6:09 PM PDT

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