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I hope they bring the ODST pistol or the Halo:CE pistol back in that would be beast. Just in case someone pulls out a BR and then LIKE UOP I HAZ THE PISTOLZ!!!!! lol whos with me on this one lolo

  • 09.22.2009 5:55 AM PDT
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this thread is funny because of the "lolo" at the end. (in french, lolo means boobie >.> )

anyway, the OLD CE pistol won't come back. it was an OP pistol, and if it were to come back, bungie would have put it in either H2 or H3... don't you think?
it's been replaced by the BR. get over it, or go and play HCE.

[Edited on 09.23.2009 7:32 AM PDT]

  • 09.22.2009 6:56 AM PDT
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  • 09.22.2009 8:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: z0rgy
this thread sucks because of the "lolo" at the end. (in french, lolo means boobie >.> )

anyway, the OLD CE pistol won't come back. it was an OP pistol, and if it were to come back, bungie would have put it in either H2 or H3... don't you think?
it's been replaced by the BR. get over it, or go and play HCE.


the BR can suck a chowed its way over powerd and make almost all other weapons not important. thou if they brought the halo ce pistol back they would have to hella tone it down and they would still be in need for another less overpowerd rifle to take the BR place


have you ever played halo ce? HONESTLY? and if yes, you dare saying the BR is OP?
BR : 9 headshots to kill. bullet spread. edit : FOR ALL YOU SLOW PEOPLE : 3 BURST ON THE SHIELD AND ONE BURST TO THE HEAD = NINE BULLETS.

HCE pistol : 3 headshots TO THE SHIELD to kill. no spread, can almost snipe people. 2 rounds per seconds.

the HCE pistol is a br on steroids, literally. it's been replaced by the br.

[Edited on 09.22.2009 10:04 AM PDT]

  • 09.22.2009 8:48 AM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
have you ever played halo ce? HONESTLY? and if yes, you dare saying the BR is OP?
BR : 9 headshots to kill. bullet spread.
HCE pistol : 4 headshots to kill. no spread, can almost snipe people. 2 rounds per seconds.

the HCE pistol is a br on steroids, literally. it's been replaced by the br.


Have you played either game? Honestly?

The BR is 4 bursts to kill, with the last being a headshot
The HCE pistol is 3 shots kill to, with the last being a headshot.

The major difference is that a three shot kill in Halo CE is incredibly hard to get against skilled opponents, while 4 shotting with the BR is incredibly easy.

  • 09.22.2009 9:01 AM PDT
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yes I've played both, and I happened to be surprisingly good at HCE (better than I was at H2/3) ... all you have to do is lead your shot a little.

and in H2 and HCE, if you shot the body, it woudn't do as much shield damage as if you shot the head. so it was necessary to hit THE HEAD and not the body. not in halo 3.

  • 09.22.2009 9:19 AM PDT

9 headshots! Are you crazy! Have you ever used the Battle Rifle? Have you ever played Halo 3?!

  • 09.22.2009 9:41 AM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
and in H2 and HCE, if you shot the body, it woudn't do as much shield damage as if you shot the head. so it was necessary to hit THE HEAD and not the body. not in halo 3.


No, shield damage was independent of shot placement. A headshot removed just as much shield as a body shot. Trust me. Only the last shot had to be a headshot.

  • 09.22.2009 11:02 AM PDT
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my favorite pistol is the Halo 2 pistol

  • 09.22.2009 11:17 AM PDT
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Having the Halo CE pistol back would be great.

  • 09.22.2009 11:21 AM PDT

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Some serious clarification needed here, the Halo CE pistol was overpowered as a pistol, however even so it was still balanced within that game, it fit. The H2/3 BR is not now, nor has it even been balanced in their respective games. They are the only weapons that consistently and reliably performs outside of it's intended range.

Take into account that the maps of those games promote fire-lane camping, and the spawn system coupled with the BR encourages spawn camping and trapping, and you have a very poorly balanced weapon.

All that being said, shoe-horning in either into a new game would have little to no positive effect unless they are balanced within the title.

[Edited on 09.22.2009 11:29 AM PDT]

  • 09.22.2009 11:26 AM PDT
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Hey I don't know if anyone remembers this game, but its alot of fun. Playbattlefield got shut down a few years ago, but somebody has remade it as Microtanks or Utanks. check it out here.

  • 09.22.2009 3:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
this thread sucks because of the "lolo" at the end. (in french, lolo means boobie >.> )

anyway, the OLD CE pistol won't come back. it was an OP pistol, and if it were to come back, bungie would have put it in either H2 or H3... don't you think?
it's been replaced by the BR. get over it, or go and play HCE.


I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks the Halo 1 pistol was OP either;

1) Never really lanned an actual game of Halo 1. Every single weapon had a role in Halo 1, and played ir great. The Sniper beat the Pistol at long range. The AR, Shotgun and Rockets beat the pistol at close range, Rockets still beat Pistol at medium range. Every weapon was extremely powerful, and the Pistol fit perfectly in Halo 1's sandbox

2) You didn't like it because people out-pistoled you often

The BR is not at all like the pistol and heres why:

1) The BR was a 4sk, the pistol was a 3sk. How could one shot make that big of an impact?

The Pistol sped up gameplay since it was so strong, and took out players in 5 shots to the body. The BR takes a very long time to kill players when shooting at the body. I understand, when they're no shields, you could just shoot at their head. Not when your opponent is strongsiding (looking down and running away with his back turned to you making it impossible to get that headshot). How many times have you been in a situation where your unloading your BR into a flag runner when he's no shields, but he gets the cap anyway since he was strong siding?

2) Burst-fire v.s. single shot- another seemingly small difference, but still makes a large impact on gameplay by reducing the skill gap it took to use the BR when compared to the Pistol;

Say two people in Halo 1 have no shields, and it will only take one headshot the get the kill. The player with higher Pistol skill would get that kill because he can properly lead his crosshairs and time a shot effectivley.

In Halo 2, if two people have no shields, all one of them has to do is sweep shoot. The auto-aim and magnetism/hitboxes made it so you didn't have to lead your shot, or even aim directly at the other guy's head. Thus making the BR much more noob friendly than the pistol.

3) Hitscan and non-hitscan-I don't really need to go into depth with this one because I partially mentioned it above, and because it's just common sense.

You need to lead your shots with the Pistol. With the BR, you just point, shoot and all three of your bullets land. Further making the BR more noob-friendly.

As you may have noticed, I am comparing the Halo 1 Pistol to the Halo 2 BR here only. This is mostly because I would hope that nobody would dare make the comparision between the H3 BR and the M6D. If you are though, heres a quick list of reasons why the H3 BR differes from the H1 Pistol:

-H3 BR is inconsistent, the H1 Pistol is consistent
-Sometimes bullets don't register with the H3 BR, bullet registration is not a problem with the H1 Pistol
-Damage (see TSK vs 4SK above)
-Burst fire vs single shot (see above)
-The H3 BR's effective range is garbage when compared the the Halo 1 pistol

All these factors really make me feel like the H3 BR is a useless weapon when you compare it to the H1 Pistol. And not to mention all the inconsistencies and weak damage/range lead to slower paced games than Halo 1. With everyone starting with a very effective weapon in H1, the game became more fast paced and intense. With an ineffective weapon like the H2/H3 BR, the game becomes much more slow paced and boring.

To return to the OT, I would love it if the pistol was brought back and every aspect of it from the original was kept the same. However, to effectivley balance it out, every weapon that appeared in Halo 1 should make a re-appearence in Halo Reach.

Because of people like this though, the Halo 1 pistol and other weapons from Halo 1 that should return to Halo Reach's multiplayer should stay in Forge and custom game options only. That way this guy can play an AR Dino Team Slayer game, and we can have these options to play customs whenever we want. Everybody gets what they want, and every type of gamer is satisfied.

  • 09.22.2009 3:17 PM PDT

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  • 09.22.2009 3:32 PM PDT

Halo 1>Halo 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Halo 3

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  • 09.23.2009 7:21 AM PDT

Posted by: SweetTRIX
Some serious clarification needed here, the Halo CE pistol was overpowered as a pistol, however even so it was still balanced within that game, it fit. The H2/3 BR is not now, nor has it even been balanced in their respective games. They are the only weapons that consistently and reliably performs outside of it's intended range.

Take into account that the maps of those games promote fire-lane camping, and the spawn system coupled with the BR encourages spawn camping and trapping, and you have a very poorly balanced weapon.

All that being said, shoe-horning in either into a new game would have little to no positive effect unless they are balanced within the title.


Concise and brilliant; well said.

  • 09.23.2009 9:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: SweetTRIX
Some serious clarification needed here, the Halo CE pistol was overpowered as a pistol, however even so it was still balanced within that game, it fit. The H2/3 BR is not now, nor has it even been balanced in their respective games. They are the only weapons that consistently and reliably performs outside of it's intended range.


I agree completely. I think a lot of complaints about the pistol wouldn't exist if it was the exact same thing, but called a rifle of some sort. The only thing that matters is that it fits and is balanced within the game that it is in. I agree that the BR's don't fit into their respective games. Its not like they are terribly unbalanced, it could be worse, but I liked the direction they were going with Halo CE.

  • 09.23.2009 5:43 PM PDT

the odst pistol is the h2 pistol with a scope thats why everyones excited to have it including myseelf

  • 09.23.2009 5:56 PM PDT