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Subject: Theory - There will be No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach

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at this point there is no way to tell what will and wont be in reach. looks like we are gonna have to wait for bungie to release the first bit of info. it'd be funny if they just came out and said "Hey the BR is/isnt in halo reach" and just left it at that. lookin forward to the first info drop for sure! :)

  • 10.03.2009 4:32 PM PDT

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i dont think the spartan's had shields in reach...i cant remember for sure though. if the game doesnt support a shield system and works like ODST's health system things could be very interesting...

  • 10.11.2009 2:23 PM PDT

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most likely not gonna be in reach

  • 10.19.2009 12:33 AM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

A triple post is a bad idea here, but to the point the only Spartan with shields at the time of Reach was Master Chief in his Mark V MJOLNIR. All other Spartan II's still had Mark IV armor which lacked energy shielding.

  • 10.19.2009 12:46 AM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
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Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
A triple post is a bad idea here, but to the point the only Spartan with shields at the time of Reach was Master Chief in his Mark V MJOLNIR. All other Spartan II's still had Mark IV armor which lacked energy shielding.


Actually all of them had MK V. The Spartans received it a day before the attack on Reach.

  • 10.19.2009 12:50 AM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

Ah, wasn't sure if it got distributed to any other Spartans after he field tested it. But I do recall them talking about the armor before the battle so I guess I just couldn't yank that out of my mind till you mentioned it.

[Edited on 10.19.2009 12:53 AM PDT]

  • 10.19.2009 12:52 AM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Ah, wasn't sure if it got distributed to any other Spartans after he field tested it. But I do recall them talking about the armor before the battle so I guess I just couldn't yank that out of my mind till you mentioned it.


You can even see the Spartans in MK V on the Fall of Reach book cover.

  • 10.19.2009 12:59 AM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

I don't have it next to me at the moment.

  • 10.19.2009 1:03 AM PDT

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To those of saying that the BR reduces every encounter into repetitiveness. Please stop. I understand this is your opinion. I'm an average player at best I do not prefer the AR + beat down with every encounter. That is repetitive and infuriating in my opinion.

I will say I wouldn't mind seeing some changes made to the BR, such a the removal of the three round burst and making it semi-automatic. Perhaps with increased recoil.

I do not prefer smaller maps. I will pay them but I'm very much a team based player than a FFA type player. I love BTB, I will not play btb with an inadequate starting weapon. I couldn't imagine trying to play BTB on sandtrap, standoff, Valhalla or any of the big open maps with an AR or an SMG. It would slow the gameplay down to crawl in my opinion.

I will say this, what ever we get in Reach players WILL adapt. I imagine some will find so much fault with Reach's gameplay that they will most likely go back to Halo3 or quit Halo all together, which is of course their choice.

  • 10.19.2009 8:08 AM PDT
Subject: Theory - No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach

zorgy is right snipers will rule the land!

  • 10.19.2009 8:57 AM PDT

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  • 10.19.2009 9:11 AM PDT
Subject: Theory - There will be No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach

Been playing Halo since CE

Wait wait wait.

You all say about it being a prototype in contact harvest now do you honestly think it took them 27 years to come up with the final build of the gun please be serious just because bungie didn't think of having it in Halo 1 doesn't mean it never existed.

Also if you must really remove the BR only remove it from MM because its a cool looking gun and deserves a bit more respect than the forums give it.
Keep it for campaign and custom games because i love using it on campaign, marines and ODSTs look -blam!- badass when they hold it.
Or change its stats to have a 20 round mag give it recoil and a two shot burst making 10 bursts if it has the same damage that's 6 bursts instead of 4 also reducing its spread may help in close quarters but make long range encounters worse.

[Edited on 10.19.2009 9:25 AM PDT]

  • 10.19.2009 9:23 AM PDT
Subject: Theory - No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

Posted by: Agent Peeps
To those of saying that the BR reduces every encounter into repetitiveness. Please stop. I understand this is your opinion. I'm an average player at best I do not prefer the AR + beat down with every encounter. That is repetitive and infuriating in my opinion.

It isn't our fault you've forgotten about the PR, PP, Spiker, SMG, Pistol, Needler and Brute Shot that are also all good for mid-range encounters. AR + Melee is a good combination, but many weapons can beat it at their own ranges. That is why the AR is a good all-around gun but a bad gun at specific tasks. That is called balance.

Posted by: Agent Peeps
I will say I wouldn't mind seeing some changes made to the BR, such a the removal of the three round burst and making it semi-automatic. Perhaps with increased recoil.

Agreed along with reducing it to a five/six shot kill making it have the ability to pressure at distance but not dominate.

Posted by: Agent Peeps
I will say this, what ever we get in Reach players WILL adapt. I imagine some will find so much fault with Reach's gameplay that they will most likely go back to Halo3 or quit Halo all together, which is of course their choice.

Happened in Halo 2 and Halo 3.

Posted by: P1X3L N1NJA
Wait wait wait.

You all say about it being a prototype in contact harvest now do you honestly think it took them 27 years to come up with the final build of the gun please be serious just because bungie didn't think of having it in Halo 1 doesn't mean it never existed.

No, the BOOKS have no mention of the weapon beforehand which means the weapon was probably not in active circulation until Halo 2. That is how the Bungie timeline has it. The Spartans were weapon specialists so if they hadn't seen a gun then it wasn't on the battlefield.

Posted by: the ZEAL0T
zorgy is right snipers will rule the land!

Yet snipers are less than half as frequent in spawn time and usually only have 1-2 spawn points on a given map if any. Yes, they will rule the land while each team waits in line for it to spawn.

  • 10.19.2009 10:07 AM PDT
Subject: Theory - There will be No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach

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Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
A triple post is a bad idea here


yeah i was just getting tired of seeing multiple BR threads popping up again. figured i show them where the big thread is at. anyone that posts a new one i just direct them here with a link. i could see them turning the BR into a Hammerbust type weapon from gears. very good at long range but a ton a recoil, fires as fast as you can pull the trigger. decrease damage to shields? i personally like the idea of splitting the BR functions into 2 weapons. i.e. new SMG and pistol from ODST.

[Edited on 10.19.2009 11:21 AM PDT]

  • 10.19.2009 11:21 AM PDT
Subject: Theory - No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach

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Posted by: EchoGamer
Better solution:
Make the BR semi-automatic (one bullet per trigger pull), and reduce it's damage, but increase it's accuracy over long ranges. Thus, it will become a medium-long range weapon, and weak in close range encounters.

Then, to compensate, reduce the bullet spread of the Assault Rifle slightly. And decrease melee power.

^The MA5K carbine was a weaker, stripped down version of the MA5B, it did not have a scope. But I DO want it in Reach, because I like the design.



Ok thats just stupid..
really?

1 shot per trigger????

??????????????????????/

If there was a gun like that no1 would even TOUCH IT

That would be extremly hard with that amount of bullets and would waste my time.

BEsides i do like the BR but i do think we need a break from it and have fun with awesome new gametypes.

  • 10.19.2009 11:47 AM PDT
Subject: Theory - There will be No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach

I think the battle rifle should stay in reach because it is a sick gun, well I like it at least. It has good accuracy and takes less shots to kill someone then the assault rifle as long as you shoot for the head.

  • 10.19.2009 11:53 AM PDT
Subject: Theory - No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

Have you played anything other than Halo and COD4? We have a term for semi-auto for a reason, cause there are guns that actually can shoot one bullet at a time. It isn't that insanely alien of an idea.

  • 10.19.2009 11:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: ZTiMeSUpZ
Posted by: EchoGamer
Better solution:
Make the BR semi-automatic (one bullet per trigger pull), and reduce it's damage, but increase it's accuracy over long ranges. Thus, it will become a medium-long range weapon, and weak in close range encounters.

Then, to compensate, reduce the bullet spread of the Assault Rifle slightly. And decrease melee power.

^The MA5K carbine was a weaker, stripped down version of the MA5B, it did not have a scope. But I DO want it in Reach, because I like the design.



Ok thats just stupid..
really?

1 shot per trigger????

??????????????????????/

If there was a gun like that no1 would even TOUCH IT

That would be extremly hard with that amount of bullets and would waste my time.

BEsides i do like the BR but i do think we need a break from it and have fun with awesome new gametypes.


"WHAT YOURE GOING TO SUGGEST AN IDEA THAT TAKES AWAY MY HEADSHOT MACHINE AND FORCES ME TO USE MORE "SKILL" WHEN I USE IT?! WHY WOULD YOU EVER SUGGEST SUCH AN IDEA!"

thats what i got out of that post....

  • 10.19.2009 11:58 AM PDT

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If BRs were that rare on Reach, just make them very rare in the game too.

Carbines aren't a problem because you only get them from Covenant and they aren't on most multiplayer maps.

  • 10.19.2009 11:59 AM PDT

Posted by: ericstifer
im just sick of hearing little kids yelling "Out BR'd" if you think about it, just that phrase right there...ugh! im really crossing my fingers on this one. please bungie for the sake of good gameplay, take it out! Please!


Well put!

  • 10.19.2009 12:00 PM PDT
Subject: Theory - There will be No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach

Ugh...

First on a BWU.. yeah, I'm cool.

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Posted by: ericstifer
Seems to make sense since the battle rifle was not around back then...well technically it was as Sargent johnson was given a prototype in contact harvest. But that's beside the point.
I love when people disprove their own theories within their first sentence.

  • 10.19.2009 12:07 PM PDT
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Halo Reach no BR= Ruined

  • 10.19.2009 12:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: ericstifer
Seems to make sense since the battle rifle was not around back then...well technically it was as Sargent johnson was given a prototype in contact harvest. But that's beside the point.
I love when people disprove their own theories within their first sentence.


hmmm well lets see here, my point was not whether it was or wasnot around back then....my point was that the Battle Rifle will no be in Reach for gameplay reason......

[Edited on 10.19.2009 12:31 PM PDT]

  • 10.19.2009 12:30 PM PDT
Subject: Theory - No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach

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Posted by: Philhgi
Posted by: ericstifer
im just sick of hearing little kids yelling "Out BR'd" if you think about it, just that phrase right there...ugh! im really crossing my fingers on this one. please bungie for the sake of good gameplay, take it out! Please!


Well put!


winning an encounter should not come down to who can "out BR" who.....

  • 10.19.2009 12:31 PM PDT