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Subject: Theory - No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach
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Posted by: Ksychutrya
Those are really Sub Machine Guns.

They aren't rifles.

Rifles are mid to long range guns. Halo has no rifle other then the BR/Carbine. No the AR isn't a rifle. Its an SMG...you can't use the AR at rifle range.


- DO YOU KNOW WHAT AN ASSAULT RIFLE IS?

-and you actually can use the AR a at long range, well long range for Halo, I get kills from all the way across Foundry

the only problem is it ridiculously hard to do and the AR dose little Armor damage in Halo 3 because Bungie wanted to Emphasize the use of melees

  • 10.20.2009 7:15 PM PDT

ooga booga boooh

If they remove the BR, they had better remove the AR as well.

  • 10.20.2009 7:17 PM PDT
Subject: Theory - There will be No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach
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Posted by: Ksychutrya
The AR is not a mid-range gun.

The AR is useless you are correct about that. However the marines need a gun to fire that isn't an ODST gun. So it has a purpose.


the definition of an assault rifle is a selective fire gas operated RIFLE that fires an intermediate round to provide accuracy at long rang and fire rate in close quarters

so i the BR was removed the AR could be tweaked to be more accurate and do more Armor damage

  • 10.20.2009 7:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Halo 2 Beta XBL
Halo Reach no BR = Good Thing
Halo with BR = Killed Halo

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Posted by: EchoGamer
Better solution:
Make the BR semi-automatic (one bullet per trigger pull), and reduce it's damage, but increase it's accuracy over long ranges. Thus, it will become a medium-long range weapon, and weak in close range encounters.

Then, to compensate, reduce the bullet spread of the Assault Rifle slightly. And decrease melee power.

^The MA5K carbine was a weaker, stripped down version of the MA5B, it did not have a scope. But I DO want it in Reach, because I like the design.



Ok thats just stupid..
really?

1 shot per trigger????

??????????????????????/

If there was a gun like that no1 would even TOUCH IT

That would be extremly hard with that amount of bullets and would waste my time.


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[Edited on 10.20.2009 7:31 PM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 7:27 PM PDT

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I just want to say that I'm sick of people thinking that the BR was a prototype at Reach.

Just think about how miraculous the logistics and manufacturing would be to get a weapon from prototype to full deployment as the standard longarm in less than two months!

It's so ridiculous that any sane person should just think the "prototype" status of the BR-55 and M6C is just an error in First Strike (an astute observer may note that the standard sidearm for Spirit of Fire personnel in Halo Wars (21 years before the Battle of Reach) was the M6C).

  • 10.20.2009 7:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
Posted by: Ksychutrya
The AR is not a mid-range gun.

The AR is useless you are correct about that. However the marines need a gun to fire that isn't an ODST gun. So it has a purpose.


the definition of an assault rifle is a selective fire gas operated RIFLE that fires an intermediate round to provide accuracy at long rang and fire rate in close quarters

so i the BR was removed the AR could be tweaked to be more accurate and do more Armor damage


The AR doesn't fit your definition. The AR is not accurate past ten feet. Ten feet isn't long range.

The AR is terrible. At least the Scoped SMG of ODST is kind of approaching an AR.

The BR is basically the M16 of Halo 3, the workhouse weapon. It also fires almost exactly like an m16.

  • 10.21.2009 6:26 AM PDT

i like me...

if there is no duel wielding in halo reach then im going to say that the SMG will replace the AR, and the AR will replace the BR...?

  • 10.25.2009 11:09 AM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
and if you remove the battle rifle, then you basically make a game where someone with a sniper rifle will obliterate anybody else...

Maybe Bungie will add another counter for the Sniper Rifle?

Faith Fail?

[Edited on 10.25.2009 11:14 AM PDT]

  • 10.25.2009 11:14 AM PDT

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Thats all well and good, but whilst the carbine is still around, Bungie will have exactly the same problem...


Its like in ODST, so many different enemies had the carbine, that i fail to see why they even removed the BR, The carbine works to pretty much exactly the same standard, and was far better than the ODST pistol in every way...

  • 10.25.2009 11:19 AM PDT
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Halo needs an assault rifle that is good at all task but not perfect for any task

the problem with the BR is it was perfect for almost all task
but by tweaking damage and fire rate that an easy fix.

but I would like to the AR be the games assault rifle instead of the BR and i would like to see the BR act like a BR.

[Edited on 10.25.2009 11:27 AM PDT]

  • 10.25.2009 11:26 AM PDT
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Stop bumping this thread, there is no point to it.

  • 10.25.2009 11:37 AM PDT

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I'm glad they've been weaning the Halo population off of the BR. I never liked it in the first place.

  • 10.25.2009 11:46 AM PDT
Subject: Theory - No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach

Posted by: urk
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If you don't know who I am, the feeling is mutual.

I think the best way to balance the BR is to make it fire slower and make the AR have a slightly longer range. That way the BR is still an effective range weapon, but it's a lot more useless close-up, and the AR is an effective counter close up. Also, by increasing the AR's range, the AR suddenly becomes a better spawn weapon as it doesn't narrow itself to only being useful at melee range.

  • 10.25.2009 11:52 AM PDT

dont turn br into carbine, i feel like im only person who luvs eexactly where h3 is. BR is a great wep i luv using it, and if its implemented in halo reach make sure we still have to lead shots. makes it harder to use :)

  • 10.25.2009 1:21 PM PDT
Subject: Theory - There will be No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach
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please bungie for the sake of good gameplay, take it out! Please!

^ That is just sad.

I personally enjoy Battle Rifle firefights in Match Making. Big Team Battles or Slayers are made all the quicker and violent with Battle Rifles. When I start a game in Halo 3 Match Making I CAN rush out with that,
weak sounding
low damage
piece of crap
Assault Rifle and have a (bored&unchallenged) party punching everyone and their dog in the face. But instead I would much rather run to the Battle Rifle that spawned next to me in favor of some actual RANGE. The same goes for everyone else on the map too unless they're actually content getting mowed down while they helplessly spray bullets from too far away.

If they were to remove the Battle Rifle from Reach... Can't say I won't buy it. But the game won't be worth as much to me. I no longer play ODST partially for that very reason. A preorder should fix that questioning of value.

No Battle Rifles would reduce Match Making to a mindless AR brawl like Halo 3 is now...only more-so. And there won't be many viable counters to the dude running around with the Sniper Rifle or Rocket Launcher either.

Once upon a time it was dangerous to wield the Rocket Launcher in the open. Now I'm rambling.


Czar_CJ_Elm suggests,
so i the BR was removed the AR could be tweaked to be more accurate and do more Armor damage
That is a good tradeoff for no Battle Rifle. You made a suggestion I can agree with.

[Edited on 10.25.2009 1:28 PM PDT]

  • 10.25.2009 1:25 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Posted by: jacob crawford
If they remove the BR, they had better remove the AR as well.
Ha. No.

AR has seniority.

  • 10.25.2009 1:31 PM PDT

i like me...

perhaps they are planing on merging the AR and BR into one almighty starting weapon. when im looking at the silhouette in the wallpaper the guy in the middle looks like he is holding an AR with a long barrel...

i dont think bungie is going to let us down people, i think we are just going to get a SWEET new weapon!

  • 10.25.2009 1:45 PM PDT

"Won't look back chains that bound me" - Blue 42, Haste The Day

Speaking of bursting, I say bring back Halo CE AR that can have a one shot burst or whole clip, and bring back pistol, but weaken it a bit.

  • 10.25.2009 1:54 PM PDT
Subject: Theory - There will be No Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.

Posted by: ericstifer
Seems to make sense since the battle rifle was not around back then...well technically it was as Sargent johnson was given a prototype in contact harvest. But that's beside the point.



How is that beside the point? At all?

  • 10.25.2009 1:56 PM PDT