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Subject: ODST's link to Reach.

Were it so easy.

*Spoilers

One, in ODST there are dead Elites, in a certain area it says "believe" behind all of the dead elite bodies, and there is no other "BELIEVE" written anywhere else on ODST (in the campaign). I am aware that it was a saying for Halo 3. But who wrote it and why does it say Believe behind the dead Elite bodies?

I think this is Bungie giving us a clue that the next game (Reach most likely) will contain Elites as our enemies again. Even though Reach happens way before ODST, before CE, I think it is them saying Believe in the Elites because we will see them again soon.

Two, how many times is Reach mentioned in ODST? MANY.

Remember when at the end of the campaign Buck (I think) said something along the lines of: "Those damn covenant bastards, it's just like Reach all over again". And Dare says "We made it through that, we can make it again". Is this a clue that the ODST's might be playable in Reach? Will we SEE them in the campaign EVEN IF WE ARE SPARTANS?? I would hope so.


Now who will we play as?

And honestly I think the one on the far left of the pic is Arbiter, NOT a spartan, I see NO spartan in the left figure. Just an Elite.

Maybe we play as Elites on some missions (Like Halo 2)?







Think about all of this.

[Edited on 09.29.2009 10:16 PM PDT]

  • 09.28.2009 7:00 PM PDT
Subject: We will be ODST's again in Halo Reach!

Signatures are for squares.

Joe staten already confirmed spartans would be the main focus of this game again.

/thread.

  • 09.28.2009 7:02 PM PDT

I sure hope not. I already miss the good ol' Chief.

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Have you read 'Fall of Reach'....???

Thats all i need to say

  • 09.28.2009 7:03 PM PDT

waz up

we wont be odst but we will be fighting elites again

  • 09.28.2009 7:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: Razlegend
*Spoilers

One, in ODST there are dead Elites, in a certain area it says "believe" behind all of the dead elite bodies, and there is no other "BELIEVE" written anywhere else on ODST (in the campaign).

I think this is Bungie giving us a clue that the next game (Reach most likely) will contain Elites as our enemies again. Even though Reach happens way before ODST ***not way before, just a few months***, before CE, I think it is them saying Believe in the Elites because we will see them again soon.

Two, how many times is Reach mentioned in ODST? MANY.

Remember when at the end of the campaign Buck (I think) said something along the lines of: "Those damn covenant bastards, it's just like Reach all over again". And Dare says "We made it through that, we can make it again".

Is this a clue that the ODST team IS the team in the Reach picture! Is it the squad we will be playing as? Are they the heroes on Reach? Or will we be just see them because they were (most of them) on the battle of Reach? ***they look like they're wearing Mjolnir armor, only Spartans wear that. and bungie staff have already hinted that you'll be playing as a squad of spartans, i don't have the exact quote, its in some other thread.***

Either way, most of them except the Rookit (I think) have been in the battle of Reach.***if he survived Reach, that wouldn't really make him a Rookie anymore would it?***

Now who will we play as? Most likely the ODST's again, probably spartans too on some missions.

We should be seeing NO BRUTES just Elites as enemies.



Also, if Buck said "Those covenant bastards, it's just liek reach all over again".

BIG QUESTION!!

WHY DID HE SAY "Those covenant bastards" or whatever if it WAS NOT BRUTES that glassed Reach, it was the Elites. ***He says, "those Covenant bastards" because the "Covenant" is the name the Humans gave every alien race they were currently at war with, including: Grunts, Jackals, Drones, Brutes, Elites, Prophets, Hunters, etc.***

So by him saying "THose covenant bastards" maybe we WILL be fighting brutes? Or was he just referring to the grunts, jackals, garbage etc....????



Think about all of this.
None of that really makes sense...I made comments.

  • 09.28.2009 7:07 PM PDT

You're over analyzing.

There were dead elites all over because there were elites in New Mombasa before the Brutes came. Chances are pretty good elites will be in Reach anyway.

Buck is the only confirmed ODST out of the bunch to have been at the Battle of Reach.

Reach is mentioned many times in ODST because it's a major event.

He probably said "Those Covenant bastards" because.. well, the brutes are part of the covenant.

[Edited on 09.28.2009 7:10 PM PDT]

  • 09.28.2009 7:09 PM PDT

you guys are obviously oblivious. read the books or just have general knowledge about halo. its the first attack on humans, so no duh its going to be elites (along with prophets) and your going to be spartans. as that guy above said, read "fall of reach".

  • 09.28.2009 7:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: Flood117
you guys are obviously oblivious. read the books or just have general knowledge about halo. its the first attack on humans, so no duh its going to be elites (along with prophets) and your going to be spartans. as that guy above said, read "fall of reach".

Irony. Read the books, the first attack on Humans was Harvest, about 30 years before Reach.

  • 09.28.2009 7:15 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

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Posted by: Razlegend
*Spoilers

One, in ODST there are dead Elites, in a certain area it says "believe" behind all of the dead elite bodies, and there is no other "BELIEVE" written anywhere else on ODST (in the campaign).

I think this is Bungie giving us a clue that the next game (Reach most likely) will contain Elites as our enemies again. Even though Reach happens way before ODST ***not way before, just a few months***, before CE, I think it is them saying Believe in the Elites because we will see them again soon.

Two, how many times is Reach mentioned in ODST? MANY.

Remember when at the end of the campaign Buck (I think) said something along the lines of: "Those damn covenant bastards, it's just like Reach all over again". And Dare says "We made it through that, we can make it again".

Is this a clue that the ODST team IS the team in the Reach picture! Is it the squad we will be playing as? Are they the heroes on Reach? Or will we be just see them because they were (most of them) on the battle of Reach? ***they look like they're wearing Mjolnir armor, only Spartans wear that. and bungie staff have already hinted that you'll be playing as a squad of spartans, i don't have the exact quote, its in some other thread.***

Either way, most of them except the Rookit (I think) have been in the battle of Reach.***if he survived Reach, that wouldn't really make him a Rookie anymore would it?***

Now who will we play as? Most likely the ODST's again, probably spartans too on some missions.

We should be seeing NO BRUTES just Elites as enemies.



Also, if Buck said "Those covenant bastards, it's just liek reach all over again".

BIG QUESTION!!

WHY DID HE SAY "Those covenant bastards" or whatever if it WAS NOT BRUTES that glassed Reach, it was the Elites. ***He says, "those Covenant bastards" because the "Covenant" is the name the Humans gave every alien race they were currently at war with, including: Grunts, Jackals, Drones, Brutes, Elites, Prophets, Hunters, etc.***

So by him saying "THose covenant bastards" maybe we WILL be fighting brutes? Or was he just referring to the grunts, jackals, garbage etc....????



Think about all of this.
None of that really makes sense...I made comments.


Well, yes they are ALL covenant. HOWEVER the Elites are NOT covenant loyalists and are NOT the ones destroying N.M. at the end of ODST. Maybe Buck said that not with that in mind? Maybe he was too frustrated to care? Maybe he confused the Elites with the Brutes.

On Reach, Elites are the ones responsible for glassing the planet. On earth, in N.M. the BRUTES are at fault, NOT the Elites, they were done and all killed by the time of the ODST's timeline.


That's disrespecting the Elites role in it IMO. What the Elites did to Reach was NOT in relation to the brutes destroying New Mobassa.

  • 09.28.2009 8:02 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

Posted by: Po0f MoNk3y
You're over analyzing.

There were dead elites all over because there were elites in New Mombasa before the Brutes came. Chances are pretty good elites will be in Reach anyway.

Buck is the only confirmed ODST out of the bunch to have been at the Battle of Reach.

Reach is mentioned many times in ODST because it's a major event.

He probably said "Those Covenant bastards" because.. well, the brutes are part of the covenant.


YES YES YES they indeed are. But they are NOT the ones that destroyed Reach. The Elites did that. So Buck must have a grudge towards all of them (even Elites after their separation from the Covenant) which is why he said "those covenant bastards" but the Brutes DID NOT TOUCH REACH.

Buck, what an idiot he is sometimes.

  • 09.28.2009 8:05 PM PDT

Excellent. Nod grows stronger by your victories.

Posted by: Razlegend


Think about all of this.



I did think about all of this.

But you seem to be forgetting about how in the Reach trailer, a SPARTAN team leader talks towards the end of the video.

  • 09.28.2009 8:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Razlegend
Posted by: Po0f MoNk3y
You're over analyzing.

There were dead elites all over because there were elites in New Mombasa before the Brutes came. Chances are pretty good elites will be in Reach anyway.

Buck is the only confirmed ODST out of the bunch to have been at the Battle of Reach.

Reach is mentioned many times in ODST because it's a major event.

He probably said "Those Covenant bastards" because.. well, the brutes are part of the covenant.


YES YES YES they indeed are. But they are NOT the ones that destroyed Reach. The Elites did that. So Buck must have a grudge towards all of them (even Elites after their separation from the Covenant) which is why he said "those covenant bastards" but the Brutes DID NOT TOUCH REACH.

Buck, what an idiot he is sometimes.

The Covenant is what the humans call the alien's alliance built of ELITES,grunts,Jackals,BRUTES,Drones,Hunters, etc...Even if the Brutes didn't touch Reach they were part of the building of the covenant and the humans knew about it.They (We) blamed them all.

  • 09.28.2009 8:09 PM PDT

How do you come up with stupid ideas like this?

  • 09.28.2009 8:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Razlegend
Posted by: Po0f MoNk3y
You're over analyzing.

There were dead elites all over because there were elites in New Mombasa before the Brutes came. Chances are pretty good elites will be in Reach anyway.

Buck is the only confirmed ODST out of the bunch to have been at the Battle of Reach.

Reach is mentioned many times in ODST because it's a major event.

He probably said "Those Covenant bastards" because.. well, the brutes are part of the covenant.


YES YES YES they indeed are. But they are NOT the ones that destroyed Reach. The Elites did that. So Buck must have a grudge towards all of them (even Elites after their separation from the Covenant) which is why he said "those covenant bastards" but the Brutes DID NOT TOUCH REACH.

Buck, what an idiot he is sometimes.
You're over-analyzing the quote. He's pissed off at ALL the Covenant (He may not even know of the civil war in the Covenant and the about how the Elites left the Covenant.) for killing billions of innocent humans, especially on Reach.

  • 09.28.2009 8:13 PM PDT

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ODST again?! no thank you!, i want Spartans!

  • 09.28.2009 8:14 PM PDT

Posted by: Razlegend
Posted by: Po0f MoNk3y
You're over analyzing.

There were dead elites all over because there were elites in New Mombasa before the Brutes came. Chances are pretty good elites will be in Reach anyway.

Buck is the only confirmed ODST out of the bunch to have been at the Battle of Reach.

Reach is mentioned many times in ODST because it's a major event.

He probably said "Those Covenant bastards" because.. well, the brutes are part of the covenant.


YES YES YES they indeed are. But they are NOT the ones that destroyed Reach. The Elites did that. So Buck must have a grudge towards all of them (even Elites after their separation from the Covenant) which is why he said "those covenant bastards" but the Brutes DID NOT TOUCH REACH.

Buck, what an idiot he is sometimes.


So if you had been part of a war agains some crazy ass aliens and found out they are doing it for some glorious journey that they are killing and butchering anyone thats not part of the covenant you wouldnt hold a grudge against them after seeing friends, family and loved ones die or know they are dying or in trouble?
And yes TRUE the Brutes did not touch Reach but that was because of there stupidity and where pulled from the front lines and placed in guard duty at Covenant held positions

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The "Believe" sign was left by the Brutes after they had killed the Elites , regarding the Elites as heretics to the great journey.

Ie, They did not "Believe".

  • 09.28.2009 8:23 PM PDT

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My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.

We are going to be Spartans. We know next to nothing about Reach, but we do know Spartans will be in it.

  • 09.28.2009 8:26 PM PDT

i hate you... for the fact that i can see thathppening and you can certinly fit the squad to the figures in the reach picture...that will be beyond lame and ruin reach

  • 09.28.2009 8:46 PM PDT
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  • 09.28.2009 8:55 PM PDT

Buck is the only member of "the Squad" that was on Reach.
Furthermore, Joe Staten confirmed that Spartans are being featured in Halo: Reach.
Even FURTHERmore, I don't know what you're saying about Brutes not glassing Reach. It WAS Elites that glassed Reach, we knew that. But Brutes were probably present.

Even more furthermore, explain to me why the silhouette to the far left is huge, carrying a turret, and obviously has MJOLNIR armor?

And, also explain to me why, very deliberately, each silhouette has the feature of a known Spartan.

[Edited on 09.28.2009 9:06 PM PDT]

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I am also throwing in, that while playing ODST Buck does refer to the Covenant as basterds....but also, during the ODST gameplay he was unaware that the Elites had switched sides.

I am refering to when he asks the chick (i forget her name) 'what happened here' (the scene where you can clearly see the Brutes and Elites had fought each other)....to which the woman replies 'thats classified'

Anyways, dont ask me what this has to do with anything, just thought i'd throw it out there

  • 09.28.2009 9:17 PM PDT

ghey

does no one remember buck asking why theres dead elites everywhere? he didnt know the elites were replaced...

edit: guy above beat me to it -_-

[Edited on 09.28.2009 9:21 PM PDT]

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