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Subject: Why Halo 3: ODST beats Halo CE
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You're judgment fails because it relies on graphics and options, not overall fun. You claim it is better because it sells more, even though this is skewed due to the fact that newcomers will almost always buy the shiniest one with the biggest number behind it. The people who buy ODST are the people who started on Halo 1, Halo 2, and Halo 3 + newcomers.

When people are on the fence on weather or not to buy a game, and a new version is coming soon, the hype from people they know will push them to buy the upcoming version instead of buying an earlier version.

As I said in the previous thread, Halo 1 fans have a lot more fun playing Halo 1 than Halo 3 fans have playing Halo 3.

Stop trolling this forum. You're ignorance is unwanted here.

[Edited on 10.01.2009 8:50 PM PDT]

  • 10.01.2009 8:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: lazybones25
Why do you ignore all the good comments that dispute things you say and instead go after the weak ones you can attack easily?


What good comments? I've countered every argument in this thread thus far. And most of the arguments are just simple opinions like multiplayer was more fun.


It's quite evident in one of the other threads.

  • 10.01.2009 8:48 PM PDT

Halo 1>Halo 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Halo 3

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Yea dude you just kinda quit the debate you had going with me in the "do you think CE is the best" thread

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Posted by: General Heed
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-blam!- off H1 will never be beaten you idiot


Halo 1 was beaten almost 5 years ago when Halo 2 came out. The ratings support that and the critics all thought Halo 2 was better than Halo 1. Usually the critics go with the vast majority of people. Unfortunately, ODST wasn't rated as high as Halo 3 in some areas. The campaign of ODST is probably the best part which beats the campaign in all Halo games so far.

You know, I wonder if you've even played ODST before. If you haven't then you shouldn't be posting in this thread since all your arguments will be biased and you wouldn't know what you're talking about when it comes to ODST.


how about you go troll some other forum and leave the H1 forum alone(i know you want everybody to love ODST and H3 but you can`t do everything you want) and i have played ODST(just doesn`t show because i`ve not linked my GT) and legendary sucked and did you ever know the classics can`t be beaten(H1 was/is the 1st halo game ever made and therefore the best as you don`t get the same excitement when you play H3 do you)

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  • 10.03.2009 4:33 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
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50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Wait, isnt this from the same guy who also goes in to the halo 2 forum, and says in the omg shutting down (not really) threads, that we should move on and get Halo 3 odst.

But seriously, Halo 1 is the best campagin, and unlike ODST, it has multiplayer over lan tunnel and the pc version is even better, with more weps (fuel rod gun and flamethrower), more viechles (rocket hogs, shees), and best of all, online and custom edition.

Not to mention, general heed has also trolled the Halo PC forum, getting called a console n00b, not knowing what he is talking about.

[Edited on 10.03.2009 5:38 AM PDT]

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Posted by: unitedstorm
No. Halo CE is the best game in the Halo series yet.

In order of overall goodness. (both campaign and multiplayer)

1.Halo 1 (best campaign)
2.Halo 2 (best multiplayer)
3.Halo ODST (best music and graphics)
4.Halo 3 (average) didn't care much for this one.


For me I simply cannot compare thee in such a manner. Granted, I have yet to play Halo 3: ODST, but despite such, I believe Halo 2 contained the best in music, Halo: CE was simply phenomenal, in every way I may imaging, such as the campaign and even the multiplayer for the time 'twas released. Yet Halo 3 doesn't do much for me. I cannot compare thee for I have yet to experience all, however Combat Evolved truly was great in title, evolved, revolutionary to the gaming universe. Think of this: Without it one would not have the sequels. ALSO

Posted by: General Heed

Since ODST is kind of an open-world game, it has a lot more replayability than Halo 1.


I disagree. Halo: combat evolved, 'halo 1,' was a revolution for the world gaming to my understanding. Without such a good revolutionary game in every aspect of that time one cannot conceive of the pleasures we hold of the present. (That being ODST as you state. ~Cm

  • 10.03.2009 6:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: Micro5
Halo's simplistic art style still appeals to me more than Halo 2 and 3's.


Halo 2 had the best art design of the trilogy. The first game's style was too bare and repetitive for my taste, while the third game featured excessive detail and a strange combination of realism and stylized graphics. I've never gotten used to seeing the Master Chief run around an environment as superbly crafted as Tsavo Highway. It feels fake and oddly surreal. Halo 2 got the art design down perfectly, providing enough detail to overcome Halo 1's faults while keeping things relatively simple and consistent. Nothing looked out of place because every environment in the game shared the same basic design principles.

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  • 10.03.2009 4:10 PM PDT

Posted by: JacobGRocks

Not to mention, general heed has also trolled the Halo PC forum, getting called a console n00b, not knowing what he is talking about.


I don't know who would do that * whistles*

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It's hard for something to surpass what made it famous to begin with, legacy-wise at least.

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ODST is a great game. Finished it on LGD in two sittings - to be expected for someone who's played all the games so much. Yes, the physics, music, ambience... it's all really cool. But it's a scaled down offering that gives fans what they want - more Halo. (Thanks a million !) Just can't see it having the same replayability as CE. The levels are just plain shorter, and we all know what we're doing/how to do it. It's like comparing the new iMacs to the old...yes, the new have a lot more features, but the initial design is what made the whole thing what it is now. It's comparing apples to older apples. It's all one game. Yes, the newest Halo iteration is "better than"...itself on some levels. Bungie>Bungie.

  • 10.03.2009 5:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks

Not to mention, general heed has also trolled the Halo PC forum, getting called a console n00b, not knowing what he is talking about.


I don't know who would do that * whistles*


I wouldn't call it trolling actually. I'd call it regulating. You see, it's only in the really old forums that you see posts comparing Halo 1 to Halo 3. But in the new forums, you hardly see any posts like that if there are any at all. Not even in the Halo 3 forums do you see posts comparing Halo 3 to ODST or Reach. While there are stupid posts in the Halo 3 forums, they aren't as abundant as the ones here. Therefore, this Halo 1 cult needs regulating to bring it up to par with the standards of the newer forums.

  • 10.03.2009 8:39 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

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1. Reach isnt out yet.
2. When odst came out, there were n00b "OMG $60 OVERPRICED EXPANSION GTA AND FALLOUT R CHEAPER" threads in the odst forum, saying odst was a overpriced expansion compared to gta4 and fallout3, and also saying that the weps were lame (no br) and the only good part was firefight.
3. We are not cult members. We are just fans of a awesome game. And also, the original is always BETTER! And this goes for many non halo things as well.

  • 10.03.2009 9:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
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1. Reach isnt out yet.
2. When odst came out, there were n00b "OMG $60 OVERPRICED EXPANSION GTA AND FALLOUT R CHEAPER" threads in the odst forum, saying odst was a overpriced expansion compared to gta4 and fallout3, and also saying that the weps were lame (no br) and the only good part was firefight.
3. We are not cult members. We are just fans of a awesome game. And also, the original is always BETTER! And this goes for many non halo things as well.


ODST really was overpriced. Even a lot of the critics and game reviewers say the same thing.

Not everything original is better. Is the original xbox better? Is the original way of connecting to the internet better (dial-up)? Is the original light bulb better? Is the original computer better? The answer is no for all of them. Technology always gets better.

However, I must admit that ODST isn't the best Halo game in the series. I still do think that it's better than Halo 1. But compared to Halo 3, it doesn't do so well.

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Posted by: General Heed
While there are stupid posts in the Halo 3 forums, they aren't as abundant as the ones here.

All General Heed's credibility has hereby been lost.

  • 10.03.2009 10:46 PM PDT

Posted by: BOB570
Posted by: General Heed
While there are stupid posts in the Halo 3 forums, they aren't as abundant as the ones here.

All General Heed's credibility has hereby been lost.


Wait...he had Credibility??? Sure as hell didn't have that before coming over to The Maw(Halo PC forum).

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General, I have to ask, did you play Halo: CE in 2001?

If not then you have no right to judge it compared to any other game out there. Period.

  • 10.04.2009 3:08 AM PDT

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Posted by: jordanJ
General, I have to ask, did you play Halo: CE in 2001?

If not then you have no right to judge it compared to any other game out there. Period.


I did play it in 2001. I got it the day it came out. I got every halo game (except for Halo Wars cause it sucks) the day they came out.

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All it took was a stew of whoopass.

Critics are nothing.They can say that this game could be the worst game ever.Then if you play it, and you think it's good, what will you think of the critics?Are they wrong?No.They are just expressing they're own opinions of the game.And why are you even posting this?Who cares if a game is better than another game.It's all about opinions if you like it or not.Not about features, unless you think it makes the game better.Besides, can critics rate the feeling you get when you play Halo:CE for the first time?If you even get a feeling that is.

  • 10.04.2009 10:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: cRaZyT101
Critics are nothing.They can say that this game could be the worst game ever.Then if you play it, and you think it's good, what will you think of the critics?Are they wrong?No.They are just expressing they're own opinions of the game.And why are you even posting this?Who cares if a game is better than another game.It's all about opinions if you like it or not.Not about features, unless you think it makes the game better.Besides, can critics rate the feeling you get when you play Halo:CE for the first time?If you even get a feeling that is.


Generally, critics reflect the opinions of the majority of players. Obviously not everyone agrees with the critics, but the majority will usually agree with it more or less.

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Posted by: LoneStaruner
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Posted by: General Heed
While there are stupid posts in the Halo 3 forums, they aren't as abundant as the ones here.

All General Heed's credibility has hereby been lost.


Wait...he had Credibility??? Sure as hell didn't have that before coming over to The Maw(Halo PC forum).

Let me rephrase that.

The minuscule amount of credibility that General Heed still had, has been lost.

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  • 10.04.2009 3:06 PM PDT

Posted by: BOB570
Posted by: LoneStaruner
Posted by: BOB570
Posted by: General Heed
While there are stupid posts in the Halo 3 forums, they aren't as abundant as the ones here.

All General Heed's credibility has hereby been lost.


Wait...he had Credibility??? Sure as hell didn't have that before coming over to The Maw(Halo PC forum).

Let me rephrase that.

The minuscule amount of credibility that General Heed still had, has been lost.


Internet high five

  • 10.04.2009 5:12 PM PDT

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Technically, all of us don't have any credibility unless we work for some reliable source. At the end of the day, we're all just average video gamers arguing on an internet forum about who's right. All we're doing is taking the credibility of others and using them as sources. You have your sources and I have mine. So unless you guys or I work for IGN, Gamespot, or any other credible source writing articles, then you have no credibility.

So if some person from IGN comes into this thread and says Halo 1 is better and provides good evidence, then I really say much about it.

  • 10.04.2009 5:48 PM PDT

Halo 1>Halo 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Halo 3

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Posted by: BOB570
Posted by: General Heed
While there are stupid posts in the Halo 3 forums, they aren't as abundant as the ones here.

All General Heed's credibility has hereby been lost.


Wait...he had Credibility??? Sure as hell didn't have that before coming over to The Maw(Halo PC forum).

Let me rephrase that.

The minuscule amount of credibility that General Heed still had, has been lost.


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Lol, OSTD sucked, campaign was lame and the open world you mention fails to exist in my opinion. Lets see, walk through like 5 streets between levels DAYUMN how open is that? It's like the new -blam!- Fable or something. Bungie did a horrible job with OSTD because they just aren't used to making games other than Halo, even though it has Halo in the title, its still different (In a bad way) because they tried to make a tactical game somewhat that involved some skill, maybe some thinking actually, but it's not their strong point.

Anyway Halo 1, did you ever play it online? It was a blast, way better than H3 and only slightly better than H2 (Mostly because there was less immature people, and I favor FPSs on PC) Although games were sometimes scarce or most of them were Blood Gulch, it was still a lot better than H3s attempt at matchmaking. There was little complaining in H2 for some reason, that became alot more evident in H3. I favor the hosting matches kind of online games such as Gears, Rainbow Six, and Halo CE. But yeah overall OSTD got it's ass handed to it by CE :P

  • 10.05.2009 2:27 PM PDT

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This thread is hilarious, but i'll add in my 2 cents anyway:

ODST, IMO, is an homage to the perfect gameplay of Halo CE. CE (out of the main titles) had the best balance, the best gamepley, in MP and campian, the the best story. Simply put, they did everything right with the first title. I'm in no way saying the others are garbage, but CE is one of those rare titles that just happens to nail everything.

CE had a campaign that is still exciting to this day. The story, the scripting, the pacing and the feel, was far superior to either of it's sequals. To this very day, as a gamer for nearly 20 years, I can say with no doubt that Halo CE is the most replayable shooter I have ever played.

Now, we move to ODST. It is a tough comparison between CE and ODST for two very big reasons, the way each game tells their stories, and the way each game was formated. Hace CE was a standalone title, a fresh new property. ODST was built off of the same engine as a previous title, and had an established world to play in. Halo CE was a linear story, whereas ODST is not, allowing for some very different play scenarios. While I certainly enjoyed ODST, it is alarmingly short, even on legendary. CE is a fun but challenging game, whereas ODST is more like an exciting romp.

The "meat" of the game is in the night missions as the Rookie, the exploration and the tension, the catch is that much of that can be avoided and rushed through. Add to that that if you are not searching the area, and simply traveling from way-point to way-point, you greatly cut the game time down. All said and done i've beaten the game on legendary inside of 3 hours. That doesn't make it terribly, but it does make it terribly short, and affects it's replayability.

What ODST does have for it is Firefight, which is a ton of fun, and a great addition, but saddled with it's own issues. Halo CE's MP was strictly console or LAN, meaning it avoided the problems on online gameing (xbox connect notwithstanding) and played marvelously. I cannot take graphics and presentation into account when comparing titles that are seperated by as many years as these two are, not to mention an entire console generation. The score in ODST is by far more touching, but it was supposed to be the more emotionally "grabbing" game. CE was large, ominous. ODST was tight and threatening, and the music reflected as much.

I guess all said and done CE is still my favorite Halo title, but ODST is an easy second and obvious choice for consistent play due to current features. ODST's success is largely due to the fact that it brought Halo's gameplay back to the simplicity of CE, something that was lost in 2 and 3.

  • 10.05.2009 2:55 PM PDT