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Subject: Why Halo 3: ODST beats Halo CE

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
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50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Several reasons why heed is messed up:
First, there is a engine that has been modified to the point where not much of the original code is left. It is called the quake engine and it is in many many games, like Call Of Duty (on my cod5 disc, it says software liscened from ID software) (look on wikipedia under quake engine.)

And also, trying to compare engines of different halos is messed up, as they are different generations of halo engine. Like the Halo 1 engine is different from the Halo 2 engine which is different from the Halo 3 engine, just like the Quake engine is differtent from GoldSrc (HL1 engine) which is different from Source.

And ODST has live, but only online campagin, which isnt drop in drop out like in games like sven co op.

  • 10.13.2009 5:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
Several reasons why heed is messed up:
First, there is a engine that has been modified to the point where not much of the original code is left. It is called the quake engine and it is in many many games, like Call Of Duty (on my cod5 disc, it says software liscened from ID software) (look on wikipedia under quake engine.)

And also, trying to compare engines of different halos is messed up, as they are different generations of halo engine. Like the Halo 1 engine is different from the Halo 2 engine which is different from the Halo 3 engine, just like the Quake engine is differtent from GoldSrc (HL1 engine) which is different from Source.

And ODST has live, but only online campagin, which isnt drop in drop out like in games like sven co op.


I know the engines are different which is why I compared Stubbs the Zombie to Halo 1. Stubbs the Zombie is where the engine is modified to the point where the whole game is almost a generation beyond Halo 1.

And you can still compare Halo 2 and Halo 3 as they both use the same engine. Halo 3 just has a more advanced version.

  • 10.13.2009 6:20 PM PDT

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It's not Halo 3: ODST some guy told me that the story line of the the Halo trilogy that Halo 3 was the last game ever!
It's ment to be Halo 2: ODST the game starts right at the part as the covenant carrier make a jump in side New Mombassa and that is the start of Halo 2!

I need to rest!

  • 10.15.2009 2:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: BATTLE DAWN
It's not Halo 3: ODST some guy told me that the story line of the the Halo trilogy that Halo 3 was the last game ever!
It's ment to be Halo 2: ODST the game starts right at the part as the covenant carrier make a jump in side New Mombassa and that is the start of Halo 2!

I need to rest!


Well that some guy that told you Halo 3 is the last game is dead wrong. There's still one more Halo game coming out next year. It's called Halo: Reach. And even after Bungie stops making Halo games, 343 Studios and Microsoft might take the initiative to continue making more Halo games.

The reason why the game is called Halo 3: ODST is because it uses the same game engine as Halo 3 and has the same weapons, graphics, and character models.

Plus, Halo 3: ODST ends after Halo 3 has started. So part of the story in ODST goes into the beginning of Halo 3. Also, ODST does not start at the beginning of Halo 2. It starts during the middle right after Master Chief leaves Earth. Therefore, the events of ODST have nothing to do with Halo 2. The story of ODST is closely related to Halo 3. That's why it's called Halo 3: ODST.

You need to check your source.

  • 10.15.2009 5:37 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Maybe you need to heed,
It shows what happens between halo 2 AND 3.
And they call it Halo 3 odst, as calling it halo 3 would sell more, as after all, if it was called 2, they would think it was outdated/lame/original xbox only, that stuff (i know halo 2 haters who have never played a match)
And they said reach was their last, then bungie is moving on to a new IP.

  • 10.15.2009 6:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
Maybe you need to heed,
It shows what happens between halo 2 AND 3.
And they call it Halo 3 odst, as calling it halo 3 would sell more, as after all, if it was called 2, they would think it was outdated/lame/original xbox only, that stuff (i know halo 2 haters who have never played a match)
And they said reach was their last, then bungie is moving on to a new IP.


As I've said, it's called Halo 3: ODST mainly because it uses the Halo 3 engine.

Reach is the last Halo game from Bungie. But Microsoft still owns the rights to make more Halo games and merchandise which they definitely will starting with the newly formed 343 Studious and Halo: Legends. As for more Halo games, I can't be sure of that, but 343 Studios is allowed to make more Halo games.

  • 10.16.2009 12:33 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Yeah, MS owns the rights to halo, so they can make a trillion spin offs. But they have to make any new halo game good, as there have been sereies killed by publishers selling IPs to companies making crappy games (crash/spyro for example)

  • 10.16.2009 6:04 PM PDT
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I still play Halo 1. Every Halo game is unique in it's own way, and if Halo 1 never exist, their would be no ODST. Respcet the first Halo game cuz ODST can't beat it.

  • 10.16.2009 6:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Decimator Omega
I still play Halo 1. Every Halo game is unique in it's own way, and if Halo 1 never exist, their would be no ODST. Respcet the first Halo game cuz ODST can't beat it.


That's just like saying the world's first telephone is the best telephone because without it, modern phones would exist and therefore, no modern phone can beat the world's first phone which required you to spin a knob around and hold a giant cone-shaped microphone to your math and another giant cone shaped head phone to your ear.

That's also just like saying the original computer which couldn't do anything and took up an entire room is the best computer.

Just because something is first, doesn't mean it's the best.

"1st is the worst, 2nd is the best, and 3rd is the one with the treasure chest" - Unknown Author. That quote is an example of why the later Halo games are better. I don't know how you think, but 1st generation telephones are definitely not better than modern generation phones.

  • 10.16.2009 9:25 PM PDT

So what's better Star Wars Episode 4 or Episode 1? What's scarier FEAR 1 and FEAR 2. Super Mario Bros or Super Marios Bros 2(ONLY THOSE TWO! We all know 3 is the best anyways)

  • 10.16.2009 9:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: Decimator Omega
I still play Halo 1. Every Halo game is unique in it's own way, and if Halo 1 never exist, their would be no ODST. Respcet the first Halo game cuz ODST can't beat it.


That's just like saying the world's first telephone is the best telephone because without it, modern phones would exist and therefore, no modern phone can beat the world's first phone which required you to spin a knob around and hold a giant cone-shaped microphone to your math and another giant cone shaped head phone to your ear.

That's also just like saying the original computer which couldn't do anything and took up an entire room is the best computer.

Just because something is first, doesn't mean it's the best.

"1st is the worst, 2nd is the best, and 3rd is the one with the treasure chest" - Unknown Author. That quote is an example of why the later Halo games are better. I don't know how you think, but 1st generation telephones are definitely not better than modern generation phones.
Um, last I checked, phones were not media, and don't provide an immersive experience. That's like saying video games are nothing more than graphics.

Your dumbassery needs to be brought to an end, I will no longer respond to it, and I hope everyone else joins me.

  • 10.16.2009 10:34 PM PDT

i dont see why people seem to have such a problem with halo 3 ODST, to be honest even if it is a little short and the campaign is very replay-able (which i disagree with), it adds a lot to the story and give you a totally different feel tho the game, im not saying either of them are better but each game has its strong points and weak points

  • 10.16.2009 11:19 PM PDT

Halo 1>Halo 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Halo 3

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Yea guys, just stop talking to heed. He hasn't even played Halo 1. He tried telling me it takes 5 melees to drop a player's shields in the game.

  • 10.17.2009 12:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: thewhorocker15
Yea guys, just stop talking to heed. He hasn't even played Halo 1. He tried telling me it takes 5 melees to drop a player's shields in the game.


I don't know what you've been smoking, but it definitely doesn't take 2 melees to kill someone in Halo 1 like you described.

It does take 5 melees to either drop down a players shields or kill them. And I probably wasn't clear, but I meant 5 melees or more to kill another player. Either way, it still takes around or at 5 melees to drop their shields. And I can get video evidence if you want.

  • 10.17.2009 9:23 PM PDT

If Halo 3 is so perfect! What aren't you playing it? What are you trying to prove on the Library. Does Halo 3 suck that much that you actually have to convince yourself(and others) that it's really that good.

  • 10.17.2009 9:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: LoneStaruner
If Halo 3 is so perfect! What aren't you playing it? What are you trying to prove on the Library. Does Halo 3 suck that much that you actually have to convince yourself(and others) that it's really that good.


I actually am playing it. Thanks for asking. What my goal in the HALO 1 Forum is to prove all the fan boys wrong and regulate the extreme bias of later Halo games that goes on here. I'm not just defending Halo 3. I'm defending all Halo games except for Halo Wars that came after Halo 1. The most common argument here is that Halo 1 is the best because it came first. Some people here do present better arguments than that. And my goal is to bring out those people who actually have good arguments and suppress the people who's arguments are pure Halo 1 Fanboy arguments.

What are you trying to prove on the Halo 1 Forums? Does Halo 1 suck that much that you actually have to convince yourself(and others) that it's really that good?

  • 10.17.2009 9:57 PM PDT
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Can you believe it?

Halo 3 ODST is it's own game. Which means that firefight is it's only multiplayer. Halo: CE beats it at that. Marty has outdone himself with ODST's music so, I agree with you there. The graphics are better, but it has less replayability. Which is why the number of people playing ODST is decreasing by a lot. Halo: CE had a better campaign. But that's just my opinion.

And what is the point of making a thread dedicated to saying a game's better than Halo: CE in the Halo: CE forum? These threads should be against the rules here similar to how saying COD and other games are better than Halo 3 aren't allowed in the H3F. There's really no point to this other than to piss people off.

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  • 10.18.2009 3:13 PM PDT
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Can you believe it?

Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: LoneStaruner
If Halo 3 is so perfect! What aren't you playing it? What are you trying to prove on the Library. Does Halo 3 suck that much that you actually have to convince yourself(and others) that it's really that good.


I actually am playing it. Thanks for asking. What my goal in the HALO 1 Forum is to prove all the fan boys wrong and regulate the extreme bias of later Halo games that goes on here. I'm not just defending Halo 3. I'm defending all Halo games except for Halo Wars that came after Halo 1. The most common argument here is that Halo 1 is the best because it came first. Some people here do present better arguments than that. And my goal is to bring out those people who actually have good arguments and suppress the people who's arguments are pure Halo 1 Fanboy arguments.

What are you trying to prove on the Halo 1 Forums? Does Halo 1 suck that much that you actually have to convince yourself(and others) that it's really that good?

A lot of us like Halo 1 better for other reasons. You may think that your thread is helping but you're wrong. This thread doesn't contribute anything to this forum and is just you bashing people for their opinions.

  • 10.18.2009 3:19 PM PDT

Once again General you are posting flamebait.

This thread was a terrible idea firstly because of the fact that neither of these games are directly competing or that there needs to be a proven best(Especially when it can't be proven, it comes down to personal preference/opinion) and also because you knew posting this here would get big reaction, mostly negative.

Very little constructive discussion will come of this.

[Edited on 10.19.2009 5:16 AM PDT]

  • 10.19.2009 5:11 AM PDT

Halo CE was the best.

  • 10.19.2009 10:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: UnicornOverlord
Once again General you are posting flamebait.

This thread was a terrible idea firstly because of the fact that neither of these games are directly competing or that there needs to be a proven best(Especially when it can't be proven, it comes down to personal preference/opinion) and also because you knew posting this here would get big reaction, mostly negative.

Very little constructive discussion will come of this.


Yeah you're right. This thread was kind of an experiment. Besides, someone was going to start this thread sooner or later like the Halo 1 vs. Halo 3 thread. If you look at the top forum topics a lot of them are comparing Halo 1 to the later Halo games. So it's inevitable that someone was going to start this thread.

  • 10.19.2009 3:05 PM PDT
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  • 10.19.2009 4:45 PM PDT

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Hmm, Halo CE library map compared to Halo 3: ODST night missions with rookie, pretty much really boring, with not as many enemies to kill in ODST, even on legendary. So yeah, I'm gonna go with Halo: CE better because of there only being one boring map on it, compared to half the game of ODST. ODST was good, but it wasn't epic like I was expecting.

  • 10.20.2009 3:03 PM PDT

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Personally, Halo CE was the best and will always be my favorite. I grew up playing with it and it will always influence me. ODST campaign was OK I guess. Just it was harder to understand. CE's campaign was straightforward and dramatic, what I love in a game.

  • 10.20.2009 9:19 PM PDT