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Subject: Little did you know, you all just played through a classic novel, hah!

very good find and interesting read! Never would have thought to connect ODST and the audiologs to Dante's Inferno..good job bro =)

  • 10.01.2009 1:29 AM PDT

Narhl'Lar!

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The officer is a crooked cop, but not a convict. The "Hitchhikers may be escaping convicts" is the final segment of "The Maw" level from Halo:CE.
HalopediaTheMaw

What's interesting is the officer uses fraud on floor 8 (concealing his intentions from you), so he can move to level 9 and commit treason (Virgil is supposed to be recovered after all).
End Spoilers

Great job by the way on finding this. Bungie has always loved to hide mythological and religious references in there games.

  • 10.01.2009 3:18 AM PDT
Subject: Little did you know, you all just played through an epic poem, hah!

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How many Halo rings were in the room where you kill the prophet of Regret. Off memory the was about 9 am I right. Since they are all circles and there might of been 9 maybe they have a connection.

I AM AMAZED. First because Bungie seem to become more sneaky every time they make a new game. Second how did you notice this I never would of possible had the thought that ODST was a book... truly amazing discovery.

Nice work Bungie.

  • 10.01.2009 3:20 AM PDT

Wow these are some GREAT finds!
I already thought that ODST was an amazing game, now after realizing all the little tidbits Bungie put it, I am even more impressed. Bungie.... I love you guys!

  • 10.01.2009 7:24 AM PDT

Didn't Bungie not write the story for Sadie's story, wasn't it the guys who wrote the I Love Bees story.

EDIT: The guys from Fourth Wall Studios wrote it, want proof, here you go.


[Edited on 10.01.2009 7:50 AM PDT]

  • 10.01.2009 7:47 AM PDT
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Didn't Bungie not write the story for Sadie's story, wasn't it the guys who wrote the I Love Bees story.

EDIT: The guys from Fourth Wall Studios wrote it, want proof, here you go.


Makes sense, the story was pretty intricate. Doesn't mean that Bungie couldn't have told them what they wanted to reference, though =)

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God damn, just when I thought I couldn't like the game more.

  • 10.01.2009 8:02 AM PDT

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  • 10.01.2009 8:04 AM PDT

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it was an interesting read, nice job!

  • 10.01.2009 8:11 AM PDT

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Wow, just... wow. I, sir, applaud you.

  • 10.01.2009 8:19 AM PDT
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Very nice and well thought out...After having read the divine comedy It didn't even occur to me until now..

Very nice post.

  • 10.01.2009 8:51 AM PDT
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couple other things.


new mombasa is actually composed of 9 sections, check the area as you go around and notice the number =]


another tasty tidbit, if you can find it: go read about the fifth circle, then go check section 5. its funny =]

  • 10.01.2009 9:07 AM PDT
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dood, well done! As an avid reader I completely facepalmed myself after reading your post and not seeing the refrences sooner. Once again we've been jedi-mindtricked by the bungie

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Thats interesting. Bungies plan for World Domination.

  • 10.01.2009 10:38 AM PDT
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*Brain asplodes from intense truth* Amazing work. What a thinker!

  • 10.01.2009 10:42 AM PDT

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Wow, I never even thought about that. Good job connecting them OP

  • 10.01.2009 10:49 AM PDT
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This is great, its nice to see the meta plot havign thsi kind of referece, is that book good? i might buy it.

  • 10.01.2009 11:22 AM PDT

Great work, Danves (and NinjaTheory!) Your discovery sheds some light on the nine barrier codes in ODST that we're working to figure out over at the Secret Glyph Project. I have linked this thread over there and I sincerely invite all who have helped picked this apart to join that forum as well so we can unlock more ODST secrets!

In any event, WTG!!!

  • 10.01.2009 11:35 AM PDT
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nice find dude :D

  • 10.01.2009 11:38 AM PDT

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Bungie's story telling goes quite deep. All this seems to coralate.

  • 10.01.2009 11:59 AM PDT

Absolutely brilliant analysis. It takes an uncommon knowledge of literature to be able to be able to realize what you have. I'm going to have to replay campaign whilst reading Divine Comedy.

  • 10.01.2009 12:49 PM PDT
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AWESOME!! I love Dante's divine comedy, inferno in particluar

  • 10.01.2009 1:08 PM PDT

"Don't you know? Spartans never die."

Just another few things I noticed.

In the REAL Divine Comedy, Dante does not go to rescue Beatrice (his lover), she is actually his guide through Purgatory. You may remember that when you get to the coastal highway, Dare gets the commandeered Oliphant, which must escourt as you make your way to the extraction point, so she kind've guides you. The same could be applied to Buck, who guides the Rookie, Dare and the engineer out of the data center, to the surface (ascend from Hell to Purgatory).

Another thing, the descent to circle 9. In The Comedy, the only way to reach the ninth circle of Hell was to jump down a pit at the center of the eighth. You and the cop must jump down to level 9 via the lifted data stack.

This next one is less known, but still quite important. When Virgil has finally led Dante to Satan, he then must show Dante the exit. So, Virgil jumps onto Satan's back and to Dante's surprise climbs down through the ice, yet once he reaches the other side, he flips around and climbs up, still towards Satan's feet. This is because the ninth circle was supposedly at the center of the world. Dante follows Virgil, and on the under side of the ice, the hidden exit of Hell can be found.

After meeting up with Buck, the Rookie and company are led down yet another shaft, but Buck eventually leads them to an elevator, and later reveals his secret exit to "Hell," a Phantom he and the ODSTs stole.

Finally, in the last scene, the stolen Phantom can be seen "ascending to heaven," much as Dante did at the end of the Comedy.

Also, and sorry for the length, the flamethrower in the Data Hive could represent warmth of God, as belief in Renaissance times was that the love of God brought warmth, and the further from God, the colder it got, hence the utter lack of heat in the ninth circle.

Now if only we could figure out the Forerunner glyphs all over the city. Also, don't forget about the three beasts from the begginning. Romeo may represent one, as he violently awakens the rookie on Prepare to Drop. The Covenant Carrier may also represent the Mountain of Paradise, or Heaven, which Dante was unable to reach without first braving the pits of Hell.

  • 10.01.2009 1:32 PM PDT
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I am human, I am good and bad as well. But I try my hardest to stay good. And some of the things I do and say may be bad. Or just not too good, but I do try.

So with that said I don't fault you. I mean your only human, good or bad.

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nice find man

  • 10.01.2009 1:34 PM PDT
Subject: Little did you know, you all just played through an epic poem, hah!
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Posted by: HoveringNebula
Just another few things I noticed.

In the REAL Divine Comedy, Dante does not go to rescue Beatrice (his lover), she is actually his guide through Purgatory. You may remember that when you get to the coastal highway, Dare gets the commandeered Oliphant, which must escourt as you make your way to the extraction point, so she kind've guides you. The same could be applied to Buck, who guides the Rookie, Dare and the engineer out of the data center, to the surface (ascend from Hell to Purgatory).

Another thing, the descent to circle 9. In The Comedy, the only way to reach the ninth circle of Hell was to jump down a pit at the center of the eighth. You and the cop must jump down to level 9 via the lifted data stack.

This next one is less known, but still quite important. When Virgil has finally led Dante to Satan, he then must show Dante the exit. So, Virgil jumps onto Satan's back and to Dante's surprise climbs down through the ice, yet once he reaches the other side, he flips around and climbs up, still towards Satan's feet. This is because the ninth circle was supposedly at the center of the world. Dante follows Virgil, and on the under side of the ice, the hidden exit of Hell can be found.

After meeting up with Buck, the Rookie and company are led down yet another shaft, but Buck eventually leads them to an elevator, and later reveals his secret exit to "Hell," a Phantom he and the ODSTs stole.

Finally, in the last scene, the stolen Phantom can be seen "ascending to heaven," much as Dante did at the end of the Comedy.

Also, and sorry for the length, the flamethrower in the Data Hive could represent warmth of God, as belief in Renaissance times was that the love of God brought warmth, and the further from God, the colder it got, hence the utter lack of heat in the ninth circle.

Now if only we could figure out the Forerunner glyphs all over the city. Also, don't forget about the three beasts from the begginning. Romeo may represent one, as he violently awakens the rookie on Prepare to Drop. The Covenant Carrier may also represent the Mountain of Paradise, or Heaven, which Dante was unable to reach without first braving the pits of Hell.


Very nice comparisons! Now I remember the fact that they had to jump in a pit to reach the 9th circle. I'm fairly certain the act of jumping down the hole under the data stack was intentionally done for that reference.

I also had the same idea of the Phantom at the end representing their ascent to Paradise. My only concern is that the Purgatory references don't seem to be as consistent as the Inferno ones. Although, since the Inferno seems to be the main intentional reference, perhaps they didn't focus on making as many Purgatory and Paradise tie-ins.

  • 10.01.2009 3:50 PM PDT