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Subject: Reach Expectations

Were it so easy.

Please don't make a reply until you've read this post or most of it, then you can tell me if you agree and any ideas you have.

Alright, what I am posting here is what I expect reach to include to make it a great way to end (atleast for a while) the Halo series. I want, as well as the rest of the Halo fans want, a lot of content to keep us satisfied.

DLC
The game needs to be able to be patched and updated. This means that we can get DLC for things like armor permutations and of course multiplayer, and maybe even the campaign as well. In addition, there should be a way for Bungie to update and fix bugs and other issues.

Campaign
Halo Reach's campaign should be at least 2 levels longer than Halo 3's campaign and should be just as good and epic as other Halo game's campaigns. There should be some boss battles too, or at least one main one at the end of the game. As for who you play as, and the actual gameplay is up to Bungie.

Firefight
Firefight for Halo Reach should be shipped with about 10 maps, same as ODST, but there should definitely be some DLC for firefight. All the maps shouldn't just be places from the campaign, there should be varied environments like maps in an abandoned spaceship being raided by the covenant (Crashed or in space (could maybe be going somewhere then crash during the firefight game), or in a big jungle, or in the heart of the covenant invasion of reach. Think outside the box Bungie and make the maps great. Now, firefight is currently only 4 player co-op, maybe Bungie should make a few maps that allow 6-10 player firefight, and one map that is 16 player co-op. Having unlockable characters like Masterchief would also be great.

Multiplayer
The multiplayer should include atleast a couple fan favorite remade maps and maybe 10 or so maps that ship with the game. Again, I'm not going to go into gameplay. For the characters, I say Spartans, Elites, and possibly brutes should be in. The armor permutations that weren't as popular in Halo 3 should be removed and many new ones should be added, like Elite honor guard (from Halo 2 cut scene), and various Spartan armors, and there should be leg pieces too.

Custom Games
Custom games should have a matchmaking system where you can host or join somebody's custom game and map, then be able to rate and download it after playing. There could be a list of the top rated. Also there should be even more options for a custom game type, like zero gravity, and maybe a few other things.

Forge
Forge can have improvements such as weather effects, snapping features, and effects like being able to make something to spawn at first then go away. Also, foregable enemies would make Reach one of the best games ever in my opinion.

Theater Mode And Extras
In theater mode we should be able to put several film clips together to make a mini movie then be able to render that on Bungie.net for a montage. We should also be able to record clips in campaign, fast forward clips, and do other things. Extras should have artwork, concept art, commentaries, videos, and many other things in it that we can collect in the campaign.

Storage Space And Memory
I realize that all this and more may be too much for one disc, if thats the case I think there should be 2 disks if needed, however much space it takes for Bungie to make this game epic.

Other People's Ideas
Rakyr 519030: "A level editor for PC. You could install this on PC, make a nice level, load it over to your XBox and play. Maybe send it to bungie, so that they put it in some mappack, your map goes official and everybody can play it. Like UT3."

CivilWolf: "Also I think they should put a boss each 10 waves.. A phantom that doesn't leave the map until destroyed or a scarab.. You really then have the feeling you are far in the game. Ofcourse the scarab should come in the far waves."

LTRiggs123: "Yes there really should be more than one disc and maybe two dedicated teams, one to multiplayer and the other to campign.Maybe even a third team for firefight and i guess an extra month or two for refined and over polished gameplay. "


Thoughts?


[Edited on 10.02.2009 8:59 AM PDT]

  • 09.29.2009 4:04 PM PDT

no offence but it looks like you copy and pasted all the ideas from the "i want but cant have" reach forums but still i expect an epic campaing AND multiplayer and nothing less sence microsoft is taking over

  • 09.29.2009 4:11 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

I never heard or looked at that thread, and if the ideas are similar even better, now its all in one thing. I just hope Bungie reads it.

  • 09.29.2009 4:13 PM PDT

AmericanSameri...stop posting... just stop. You're uninformed and have horrible spelling.

Anyway, those ideas are good, especially the Theater one.

[Edited on 09.29.2009 4:18 PM PDT]

  • 09.29.2009 4:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: LinkLegend0
Please don't make a reply until you've read this post or most of it, then you can tell me if you agree and any ideas you have.

Alright, what I am posting here is what I expect reach to include to make it a great way to end (atleast for a while) the Halo series. I want, as well as the rest of the Halo fans want, a lot of content to keep us satisfied.


Posted by: LinkLegend0
DLC
The game needs to be able to be patched and updated. This means that we can get DLC for things like armor permutations and of course multiplayer, and maybe even the campaign as well. In addition, there should be a way for Bungie to update and fix bugs and other issues.


No,nobody needs and want to pay for some new armor,that is a bad idea. MapPacks are okey,but no new other stuff.

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Campaign
Halo Reach's campaign should be at least 2 levels longer than Halo 3's campaign and should be just as good and epic as other Halo game's campaigns. As for who you play as, and the actual gameplay is up to Bungie.


Agree

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Multiplayer
The multiplayer should include atleast a couple fan favorite remade maps and maybe 10 or so maps that ship with the game. Again, I'm not going to go into gameplay. For the characters, I say Spartans, Elites, and possibly brutes should be in. The armor permutations that weren't as popular in Halo 3 should be removed and many new ones should be added, like Elite honor guard (from Halo 2 cut scene), and various Spartan armors, and there should be leg pieces too.


No Brute Multiplayer Models,whats wrong with u? This would look bad and unplayable.Nobody cares about the armors...

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Custom Games
Custom games should have a matchmaking system where you can host or join somebody's custom game and map, then be able to rate and download it after playing. There could be a list of the top rated.


Pff,why u got a friendlist? Nobody wants to play with people they done like or know.

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Forge
Forge can have improvements such as weather effects, snapping features, and effects like being able to make something to spawn at the beginning, spawn back, then disappear again. Also, foregable enemies would make Reach one of the best games ever in my opinion.


Ai in forge? Wtf? This is an impossible dream. If u want to place ai in a map..learn the Editor from Crysis or get a job at Bungie.

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Theater Mode And Extras
In theater mode we should be able to put several film clips together to make a mini movie then be able to render that on Bungie.net for a montage. We should also be able to record clips in campaign, fast forward clips, and do other things. Extras should have artwork, concept art, commentaries, videos, and many other things in it that we can collect in the campaign.

And then? A Moviemaker? WTF? Not needed,,u can capture ur clips with an TV Card and editing them on ur PC.
If u want EXTRA like Artworks and so on,buy the Limited Edition of the game.


-blam!- ideas..sry

  • 09.29.2009 4:19 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

I responded in bold.

Posted by: halo2jumper
Posted by: LinkLegend0
Please don't make a reply until you've read this post or most of it, then you can tell me if you agree and any ideas you have.

Alright, what I am posting here is what I expect reach to include to make it a great way to end (atleast for a while) the Halo series. I want, as well as the rest of the Halo fans want, a lot of content to keep us satisfied.


Posted by: LinkLegend0
DLC
The game needs to be able to be patched and updated. This means that we can get DLC for things like armor permutations and of course multiplayer, and maybe even the campaign as well. In addition, there should be a way for Bungie to update and fix bugs and other issues.


No,nobody needs and want to pay for some new armor,that is a bad idea. MapPacks are okey,but no new other stuff.
The new armor permuations could be extras with the purchase of DLC map packs. Also, many people HAVE requsted DLC armor for Halo 3.

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Campaign
Halo Reach's campaign should be at least 2 levels longer than Halo 3's campaign and should be just as good and epic as other Halo game's campaigns. As for who you play as, and the actual gameplay is up to Bungie.


Agree

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Multiplayer
The multiplayer should include atleast a couple fan favorite remade maps and maybe 10 or so maps that ship with the game. Again, I'm not going to go into gameplay. For the characters, I say Spartans, Elites, and possibly brutes should be in. The armor permutations that weren't as popular in Halo 3 should be removed and many new ones should be added, like Elite honor guard (from Halo 2 cut scene), and various Spartan armors, and there should be leg pieces too.


No Brute Multiplayer Models,whats wrong with u? This would look bad and unplayable.Nobody cares about the armors...

Plenty of people want new armors and characters, this would give players new customization. Please stop acting like you know what people want. You clearly don't

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Custom Games
Custom games should have a matchmaking system where you can host or join somebody's custom game and map, then be able to rate and download it after playing. There could be a list of the top rated.


Pff,why u got a friendlist? Nobody wants to play with people they done like or know.
Uhh, its not about friends or not, maybe you need several people to test out a map, and you want to see what others think about it, then this is perfect, or maybe you just wanna play some fun maps to pass time. Many people have also requested this, you have no idea what your talking about
Posted by: LinkLegend0
Forge
Forge can have improvements such as weather effects, snapping features, and effects like being able to make something to spawn at the beginning, spawn back, then disappear again. Also, foregable enemies would make Reach one of the best games ever in my opinion.


Ai in forge? Wtf? This is an impossible dream. If u want to place ai in a map..learn the Editor from Crysis or get a job at Bungie.

LOTS of people are requesting forgable enmies, and I don't have to work at Bungie for this...
Posted by: LinkLegend0
Theater Mode And Extras
In theater mode we should be able to put several film clips together to make a mini movie then be able to render that on Bungie.net for a montage. We should also be able to record clips in campaign, fast forward clips, and do other things. Extras should have artwork, concept art, commentaries, videos, and many other things in it that we can collect in the campaign.

And then? A Moviemaker? WTF? Not needed,,u can capture ur clips with an TV Card and editing them on ur PC.
If u want EXTRA like Artworks and so on,buy the Limited Edition of the game.

People don't want to buy a $100 capture card and equipment for that. I'm just saying for the option to combine clips, and make it one little mini movie.

-blam!- ideas..sry

  • 09.29.2009 4:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: LinkLegend0
People don't want to buy a $100 capture card and equipment for that. I'm just saying for the option to combine clips, and make it one little mini movie.


Haha nice joke..and how do share the Movie? xD Filesharing? Cmon...nobody want to see a cheap Edited Movie....

  • 09.30.2009 11:24 AM PDT

i love the 2 disk idea..and theres realy no excuse for them not doing it..have forge(if there is forge for reach) and multiplayer on 1 disk like the mythic disk from odst and have the campiagn on another disc. they have done it with ODST yeah granted they are in reaity 2 seperate games but they have show they can seperate the multi player from the campiagn and have it on its own disk

  • 09.30.2009 11:38 AM PDT

Were it so easy.

Posted by: halo2jumper
Posted by: LinkLegend0
People don't want to buy a $100 capture card and equipment for that. I'm just saying for the option to combine clips, and make it one little mini movie.


Haha nice joke..and how do share the Movie? xD Filesharing? Cmon...nobody want to see a cheap Edited Movie....

Your sir have the brain capacity of a 6 year old. Its not the fact that your disagreeing that makes you dumb, its your points and logic to support your flawed and obviously wrong claims. Anyways, yes it could be in your fileshare and it would certainly fit just like a saved film can fit (and thats a whole games worth of time), you would do the same things you do with your film clips, only the mini movies can help people make montages and machinimas much easier.

  • 09.30.2009 6:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: LinkLegend0
DLC
The game needs to be able to be patched and updated. This means that we can get DLC for things like armor permutations and of course multiplayer, and maybe even the campaign as well. In addition, there should be a way for Bungie to update and fix bugs and other issues.

No,nobody needs and want to pay for some new armor,that is a bad idea. MapPacks are okey,but no new other stuff.

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Multiplayer
The multiplayer should include atleast a couple fan favorite remade maps and maybe 10 or so maps that ship with the game. Again, I'm not going to go into gameplay. For the characters, I say Spartans, Elites, and possibly brutes should be in. The armor permutations that weren't as popular in Halo 3 should be removed and many new ones should be added, like Elite honor guard (from Halo 2 cut scene), and various Spartan armors, and there should be leg pieces too.[/quote]

No Brute Multiplayer Models,whats wrong with u? This would look bad and unplayable.Nobody cares about the armors...

You would be surprised what people will spend money on... for example I have seen people who spent 800 microsoft points for a sweater for their xbox live avatar. Besides, even if you don't want new armor permutations I'm sure other people might, so they should at least get the option.
Posted by: halo2jumper
Posted by: LinkLegend0
Custom Games
Custom games should have a matchmaking system where you can host or join somebody's custom game and map, then be able to rate and download it after playing. There could be a list of the top rated.

Pff,why u got a friendlist? Nobody wants to play with people they done like or know.


That could be a cool way of meeting new friends, and if you ever get bored you could find fun and random games and maps to play.
There should be a mess around custom game finder, and a serious "I want to practice" custom game finder.

[Edited on 09.30.2009 8:49 PM PDT]

  • 09.30.2009 8:17 PM PDT
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what they said

  • 09.30.2009 9:07 PM PDT
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all these is good idea but i find the theater options a lil more hard to work on lets hope that some of this ideas can make it to the game
and for the guy who thinks hes smart and know what people want
socialyse and talk again
many of this things are what people have been asking for

  • 09.30.2009 9:24 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

Posted by: Cosvi
all these is good idea but i find the theater options a lil more hard to work on lets hope that some of this ideas can make it to the game
and for the guy who thinks hes smart and know what people want
socialyse and talk again
many of this things are what people have been asking for

Yeah, if your talking about the mini movie things in theater mode, then yes that might be hard to make, but I don't see why something as basic as fast forwarding and going backwards in the campaign/firefight films isn't there.

Speaking of, I'll go ahead and add a firefight section soon.

  • 09.30.2009 9:45 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

Sorry for double post, just wanted to update, I added a firefight section.

  • 09.30.2009 9:54 PM PDT

Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword.

its impossible to have new armor.

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nobody needs another Halo 3. its been done. there needs to be a totally new multiplayer experience if it is indeed going to be a fps. im thinking that there needs to be different spartans/classes to choose from with different abilities as there were in the actual story line, such as big ass spartans that are strong as hell and spartans that can run crazy fast. maybe spartans that can jump and then have average ones too like the chief. regardless, there should be variation in the playable multiplayer spartans so that is not just halo 3 with slightly better graphics. it's time to change the formula a bit. you don't necessarily need new weapons, just new abilities for your character(s). that way, its not halo 3, which was halo 2, which was halo ce.

....and more gauss warthog cuz it badass as hell..

  • 10.01.2009 12:09 AM PDT

Betatesters are disposable.

I agree to LinkLegend0.

But there's one more point: A level editor for PC. You could install this on PC, make a nice level, load it over to your XBox and play. Maybe send it to bungie, so that they put it in some mappack, your map goes official and everybody can play it. Like UT3.

I expect that Reach, like ODST, ships with a special multiplayer disk, but please put the firefight mode on this, so that I don't have to change my disks so often :)

And at least: I don't think its time to "change the formula". Halo is Halo and shoud stay like that - at least until the real next gen halo comes out (which I expect with the next XBox)

  • 10.01.2009 12:35 AM PDT

why do you have to be a douche? Link was just throwing ideas out there that are good I wouldnt mind playing as a Brute that would be pretty cool everybody just wants somthing to complain about if they do put brutes in who cares wether people like it or not there are gonna be plenty of people who sill complain because they just want to wine about somthing

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I agree wit this statement,but you got to think what all people want I know what i want for my game is that its kickass for story and can do co-op. But added all this stuff like for theater and being able to have matchmaking for custom games ya um no if u want to test something u tell people on friend list nobody will want some random person they dont even know joining in a custom game. I'm sorry but that was a dumb idea anyone who would love to join some person's custom game they dont even know then get use to getting booted if that does not happen people leave.

Your brute idea seems dumb no offense maybe different armor but brutes come on think about what you just said if u know anything about Reach brutes were not back then most i can see is spartans,marines,elites. You got to think about this idea and read the book I'm 90% sure its going to follow the book to some extent since u do see Reach in flames. But this is just ideas so go with whatever you think you want a game to be but we all know the game has no info out so its hard to say this or that wont happen, Peace.

  • 10.01.2009 12:49 AM PDT

Betatesters are disposable.

Posted by: Fishybait
I agree wit this statement,but you got to think what all people want I know what i want for my game is that its kickass for story and can do co-op. But added all this stuff like for theater and being able to have matchmaking for custom games ya um no if u want to test something u tell people on friend list nobody will want some random person they dont even know joining in a custom game. I'm sorry but that was a dumb idea anyone who would love to join some person's custom game they dont even know then get use to getting booted if that does not happen people leave.


Just cause you don't need or don't want matchmaking that doesn't mean anybody als doesn't want that stuff too. So could you please bring some argument why this shoudl be a bad idea? It doesn't make the game worse.

Your brute idea seems dumb no offense maybe different armor but brutes come on think about what you just said if u know anything about Reach brutes were not back then most i can see is spartans,marines,elites. You got to think about this idea and read the book I'm 90% sure its going to follow the book to some extent since u do see Reach in flames. But this is just ideas so go with whatever you think you want a game to be but we all know the game has no info out so its hard to say this or that wont happen, Peace.

About brutes, i have to agree with you now. But not with your silly reasons, but brutes are the tallest race, while elites and spartans allmost are the same dimensions. Brute-players would be disadvantaged.
And only cause you see know brute on Reach that doesn't mean they weren't there.

Rakyr

  • 10.01.2009 3:28 AM PDT

Were it so easy.

Thanks for commenting and supporting guys, I'll probably edit the first post with some of the ideas you guys mentioned that I like.

Also...
Posted by: shad0ws n dustm4
its impossible to have new armor.

No, no, no. That only applies for Halo 3, Bungie made Halo 3 and didn't build it to accommodate DLC armor, they can add it into Reach when they make that though.
Posted by: Fishybait
I agree wit this statement,but you got to think what all people want I know what i want for my game is that its kickass for story and can do co-op. But added all this stuff like for theater and being able to have matchmaking for custom games ya um no if u want to test something u tell people on friend list nobody will want some random person they dont even know joining in a custom game. I'm sorry but that was a dumb idea anyone who would love to join some person's custom game they dont even know then get use to getting booted if that does not happen people leave.

Your brute idea seems dumb no offense maybe different armor but brutes come on think about what you just said if u know anything about Reach brutes were not back then most i can see is spartans,marines,elites. You got to think about this idea and read the book I'm 90% sure its going to follow the book to some extent since u do see Reach in flames. But this is just ideas so go with whatever you think you want a game to be but we all know the game has no info out so its hard to say this or that wont happen, Peace.

First off, I'm not sure if Bungie will follow the book completely, then we already know the story and exactly what will happen, they might add some twists and turns. For the brute thing, so what if there are no brutes in the book or whatever, multiplayer is separate, if you want to complain about story in multiplaer then why the hell are millions of Spartans fighting eachother, or better yet carrying a flag to their bases. So brutes in multiplayer is fine and has nothing to do with the story. Also, it would be easy to re size brutes, they aren't much taller than elites and Spartans.

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  • 10.01.2009 10:56 AM PDT

I like your idea of forgeable AI, it will be hard but almost no game has this, it would definetly become one of the best games ever. If this really is the last halo game then I think they should give everything they have and aswell put a very big editing system in.

Aswell I think they should revamp firefight mode. Would like a normal wave system and increased difficulty each wave.. Stronger and more spawns the further you get.Aswell I think they should only let the mobs spawn or walk into the map. Right now they get dropped off by phantoms which removes the thrill of this vehicle. Also I think they should put a boss each 10 waves.. A phantom that doesn't leave the map until destroyed or a scarab.. You really then have the feeling you are far in the game. Ofcourse the scarab should come in the far waves.

And what is stated in the post above.. I agree. Multiplayer/Firefight should be the best as possible. Adding things that wouldn't normally happen is awesome.

If you played clone wars survival mode you will get bosses of the actual game to fight aswell. And those are..big.



[Edited on 10.01.2009 11:38 AM PDT]

  • 10.01.2009 11:29 AM PDT

Were it so easy.

Posted by: CivilWolf
I like your idea of forgeable AI, it will be hard but almost no game has this, it would definetly become one of the best games ever. If this really is the last halo game then I think they should give everything they have and aswell put a very big editing system in.

Aswell I think they should revamp firefight mode. Would like a normal wave system and increased difficulty each wave.. Stronger and more spawns the further you get.Aswell I think they should only let the mobs spawn or walk into the map. Right now they get dropped off by phantoms which removes the thrill of this vehicle. Also I think they should put a boss each 10 waves.. A phantom that doesn't leave the map until destroyed or a scarab.. You really then have the feeling you are far in the game. Ofcourse the scarab should come in the far waves.

And what is stated in the post above.. I agree. Multiplayer/Firefight should be the best as possible. Adding things that wouldn't normally happen is awesome.

If you played clone wars survival mode you will get bosses of the actual game to fight aswell. And those are..big.


Yes, I really like your idea about the bosses in firefight, maybe since this is in a much different place and at a different time, there could be some new kind of covenant boss to face that would fit firefight perfectly.

  • 10.01.2009 11:56 AM PDT

I agree.

Full Map maker like far cry 2 or crysis combined with updated forge.

Thearte is beast already, but yeah add a editor in the game, which has simple effects etc.

Campaign and multiplayer should be on separate discs, so they dont try to squeeze everything in.

Downloadable armour permutations, so no one is ever the same in Multiplayer, everyone is unique.

  • 10.01.2009 12:07 PM PDT

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