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Subject: Should Reach be more like CE or 2 and 3?

Poll: Should Reach be more like CE or 2 and 3?  [closed]
Reach should be like CE:  45%
(49 Votes)
Reach should be like CE and 2:  8%
(9 Votes)
Reach should be like 2 and 3:  5%
(5 Votes)
Reach should be like 3 and odst:  5%
(6 Votes)
Reach should be like CE, 2, and odst:  8%
(9 Votes)
Reach should be like 2 and odst:  5%
(5 Votes)
Reach should be like CE, 2, and 3:  2%
(2 Votes)
Reach should be like all halo games:  23%
(25 Votes)
Total Votes: 110

I honestly want reach to be more like Halo CE, but from reading the forums, It seems the majority of posters would like it to be more like 2 and 3, with the equipment and battle rifle of their respective games. I however, would like to just amke the statement of why i want a CE atmosphere. please read this before you vote.

Remember in halo CE how the AI had a certain feel about them, to the point where they weren't dumb, but they gave you one of the best gaming experiences since the nintendo first came out.
Well anyway, i don't want a giant paragraph, so i''l just give you a kind of list about what i liked about one more than the other games.

The Weapons in halo one had more of a balance to them, and the pistol was all around amazing...
But in halo 2 and 3, as more weapons were made, they had to change that balance, and in some cases completely failed.

From the first halo i enjoyed the AI as i mentioned already, because the elites were a good formidable foe, and the flood was impossible but fun...
However in 2 and 3, bungie decided elites weren't good enough and brought in the brutes, they also changed the flood to fit the storyline, and it felt kinda weird trying to beat them afterwards, so the flood became impossible, but in a different way, that i didn't like. ( I also like the hunters from halo one)

The maps from all three games were good, but three had no classics, and 2 had a few( Zanzibar, Midship, Terminal(always fun to ge hit by a train). But these didn't get that multiplayer feel that was so awesome in blood gulch, and in beaver creek, and a few other maps. I also felt that coagulation in halo 2 didn't quite get the overall feeling of blood gulch.

The Equipment in halo 3, and the turrets in halo 3, sometimes make me cringe. They are fun and useful in campaign, but I know that everyone in the entire world just has to hate it where you walk into a bubbleshield and a guy jumps at you with a shotgun or a sword or a gravity hammer, something like that. I also feel like most equipment takes up space where they could be a better weapon or just another equipment. I honestly feel that halo 3's multiplayer would be better without equipment. I thought it was going to be awesome at first when halo 3 came out, but as istarted to actually try to enjoy multiplayer, within a few days, i just grew to hate the power drain, bubble shield, and the dull pointless radar jammer, that doesn't actually do anything.

I also believe that we only need a few vehicle and we can get rid of the rest. I honestly like the warthog(both types i guess), ghost, mongoose, sometimes banshee, and tank. so basically halo one, but with a mongoose.

The story stayed good throughout the halo games, but lost their playability, in terms of having as much fun as you did in the first one smashing an elite. I honestly believe that when halo 3 got the new engine for the game, everything became too realistic, which takes away from a sci-fi fps. I mean it's okay with the physics of a gun spread, distance, and a grenade spread, but i mean the characters themselves basically became human, which is ok for marines, but not for flood, brutes or even mc, because mc obviously is a superhuman. Also the story obviously got shorter with each game, and they didn't have as much of a replay factor as one did.


So in essence i want halo CE, but i just don't want bungie to take it, and amke it to the point where it fails in the publics eyes.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed the 2nd and 3rd game, and i definitely still play halo 3 multiplayer, i just get discouraged sometimes when i remember how awesome the first one is, and how dull halo kinda has become.

i'm sure ill be happy with whatever bungie puts out, but i still don't honestly expect it to live up to the halo standards that completely turned halo 3 into mainly just for multiplayer, but no amazingness factor for either campaign or multiplayer.

ALSO: DON'T FLAME JUST BECAUSE I SAID MY OPINION AND IT DOESN'T MATCH YOURS!!!


I also don't really believe halo wars is the best part of the halo universe, so it is not included. I pre-ordered the game didn't like it, brought it back, gamestop jacked me and i only got like tweny five bucks for it, so i just overall don't feel like halo wars right now...


Two more things: I forgot to mention that the assault rifle for halo one was awesome, getting rid of it was really sad on bungies part. I also forgot to mention sidewinder, which was a fun map to play on in multiplayer, especially when warthogs when you ran over thie ice. I enjoyed the physics of how the ice worked...
I also hope everyone knows that CE just means combat evolved

[Edited on 09.30.2009 10:10 AM PDT]

  • 09.30.2009 9:47 AM PDT

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i voted like every halo games, because every halo games have good things. just leave out the bad parts like the cortana level.

  • 09.30.2009 9:50 AM PDT
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Reach should be more like CE in terms of Gameplay.

  • 09.30.2009 9:51 AM PDT

Thanks for responding, and i agree, all three games had good points to them, but i want the essence of CE in reach.

  • 09.30.2009 9:59 AM PDT

Keep BUNGLE away from matchmaking, away from these forums, and overall away from this game.

People need to stop living in the past. CE will never be reproduced.

Let Reach be something new, let it combine the best out of all 4 games.

  • 09.30.2009 10:07 AM PDT

Bungie has made some very smart changes to the combat in all sequels but so far has yet to match the epic adventure that was Halo1

In Halo1 i really did believe the world i was fighting in.Halo3 and ODST are great games that very easily prove Bungie has a knack for great fps design, but there isn't that sense of awe we had from both the level sizes of Halo1 or the grand scale of some of it's levels.And back tracking is very much why - all this variety in a level isn't all that great as you think sometimes Bungie though i guess you're trying to please those that moaned repetitive at Halo - you guys really shouldn't listen though

Halo3 and ODST(to a lesser extent) feel like games

I guess we're just very lucky to have been given such a tremendous game in the form of Halo1 and it's maybe asking too much from Bungie that they recreate what made it so astonishing.I think a lot of us took it for granted that another truly astonishing quality Halo would turn up and really we were lining ourselves up for disapointment

I'm even begining to think that maybe another dev handling Halo games from now on isn't so bad after all - probably not but as designers i would feel disapointed that apart from some obvious improvements, the essense of what Halo1 was back then, has been almost entirely lost - the problem being the dev i suppose is that you didn't live the world of Halo1 like us

Don't get me wrong though, all of the Halo sequel fps games are pure gold for the most part, i just wish Bungie realised a little more what people expect from the words epic and scale in a Halo game

I will continue to play both ODST and Halo3 because as GAMES they are unbeatable but Halo1 is much more an experience as well

At least we still have Halo1


[Edited on 09.30.2009 10:36 AM PDT]

  • 09.30.2009 10:30 AM PDT

"What we do in life, echoes in eternity."

I'd like Reach to bring HALO back to it's roots, and be like the 1st game.

  • 09.30.2009 10:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: aLizard
People need to stop living in the past. CE will never be reproduced.

Let Reach be something new, let it combine the best out of all 4 games.

not true. ODST made me feel like i was playing halo ce again.
why? because i couldn't just run up to the brutes anymore i had to grenade them and just stay back for the most part or i would get my a$$ kicked.

  • 09.30.2009 10:40 AM PDT

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A mixture. I want it to feel like Halo 1, but with the features and all that from Halo 2, 3 and ODST that 1 lacked due to being out before LIVE.

  • 09.30.2009 11:08 AM PDT

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Gameplay would benefit greatly from following the structure of the first Halo, the balance and the pacing were much more refined in that game. But the features should reflect the current standard set by Halo3. Moreover I want Reach to establish it's own feel, but it it has to copy one, i'd say I want CE.

  • 09.30.2009 11:26 AM PDT

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Should be like CE meets ODST, only way harder.

  • 09.30.2009 11:47 AM PDT

Posted by: C Dirty 4
Reach essentially has put the "I" in "Team".


Remember, the enemy's gate is down

Posted by: aLizard
People need to stop living in the past. CE will never be reproduced.

Let Reach be something new, let it combine the best out of all 4 games.


Well gameplay wise, CE was better than both 2 and 3 by far.

So then we can take features like forge and theater from 3 and the variety and custom options from 3 and 2. Gameplay wise 2 and 3 have nothing "better" than CE.

[Edited on 09.30.2009 12:14 PM PDT]

  • 09.30.2009 12:13 PM PDT
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Where's the neither or its own game option? I really think halo reach should be its own game instead of like CE, 2 , or 3. And it should have some gameplay mechanics and features from previous halo game.

The past halos are all unique which had features that made them fresh and new( like Hijacking ,dual wielding, support weapons and improved engine) , if they make it to much like one of the halos, it would tell Bungie that they just taking the easy way out and not progressing( expect with the story) instead of expanding the halo universe with something new IMO.

p.s sorry if I made mistakes I'm new to posting.

  • 09.30.2009 1:06 PM PDT

Good point panda, but there are only eight spots in the poll, otherwise i probably would have put that option. And if bungie can bring something new to the table that will knock our pants off just like CE did, but in a different way, then by all means i would fully enjoy the game, but after the last few dissapointments( i liked odst and was glad they got rid of br, by the way) i don't know what to expect from bungie so... guess we'll have to wait and see.

  • 09.30.2009 1:52 PM PDT
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I liked Odst alot because you werent just one character and u were thrust upon diffrent personalitys..

  • 09.30.2009 1:56 PM PDT

I also like how they had real actors in odst. they may have in the past, but i never recognized them except for the people who are now main characters in odst( they played marines in 2 and 3)

  • 09.30.2009 4:16 PM PDT

I think it should be the most like CE, but with aspects from the newer halos.

  • 09.30.2009 4:21 PM PDT

Posted by: BlargMonkyMan
I think it should be the most like CE, but with aspects from the newer halos.


Well sure, like forge and matchmaking and maybe some weapons like spartan laser. idk if that is canon though.

  • 10.01.2009 6:03 AM PDT

Reach MMO. Here's to hoping.

And the people that believe "the hardcore playlists would be more popular if the rules were strictly MLG" can come off it, now. If you're not willing to support something close to your own setup, there's no reason for us to believe that cloning our own lists and stripping the variety down will attract more people. -- Shishka, Bungie.net

Where is the option for not like any of them? Still a FPS, but something completely different would be my vote.

  • 10.01.2009 7:18 AM PDT

Keep BUNGLE away from matchmaking, away from these forums, and overall away from this game.

I personally voted for like Halo 2 and ODST.

  • 10.01.2009 7:28 AM PDT

no more the same halo 3 odst was really a big dissapointment because it was so much the same as halo 3 that is just boring playing a game that looks almost the same with a little bit changes im not gonna pay my money for that every time bungie moneyrats they covered themselves out with the vidmasters so everyone would buy it because they want recon.

i want halo reach to be something new.
lots of new weapons maybe something like a jetpack and a new vehicle bigger options like flying a pelican and having a team which you can send to places like in rainbox six vegas.

  • 10.01.2009 7:39 AM PDT

There should be enough features to fill the campaign. Halo 1 had too few things in it, so it got repetitive. Halo 3 had too many things in it, so you don't have enough enemies to use the things on. Halo 2 had this best in balance.

And I disagree with your comment about the H1 weaponry. On Legendary, the rifles were basically useless, while the plasma pistol was too good. In Halo 2 and 3, I found at least some use for all weapons, although the scoped rifles were still a bit too strong and in Halo 3: ODST, pretty much every gun is great but limited, except the Carbine, which is great and all-purpose. ODST should be the weapon balance target.

And Chewie, how exactly does one make a game feel like Halo 1? New games will never have the same old feel as the first one. Or is it some specific gameplay feature you are looking for?

  • 10.01.2009 8:14 AM PDT

I miss playing Halo with my friends.

I'm confused when people say they want it like CE. What exactly do you guys want like CE?

  • 10.01.2009 8:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: Kaiser TheGreat
I'm confused when people say they want it like CE. What exactly do you guys want like CE?
Powerful weapons, no dual wielding, no melee lunge, better music (ODST got the music right again... finally) and more cunning enemies (Elites in H1 were much tougher to fight than Elites and Brutes in H2, 3 and ODST)... because they were smarter.

  • 10.01.2009 9:10 AM PDT


Posted by: crazyiscool899
So in essence i want halo CE, but i just don't want bungie to take it, and amke it to the point where it fails in the publics eyes


Sorry, but I dissagree. I want this:

-Weapons: Halo 2 BR, (ODST pistol, maybe?), CE AR, more equipment, and any new weapon that Bungie can put in the game.
Don't care about dual weilding, personally I don't use it, but some people like it, so Bungie shouldn't remove it.

-Vehicles: The same of Halo 3 (and no Gauss Hog in Matchmaking)

-Enemies: Everybody wants Elites back, and I'm not an exception, but I also want some Halo 2 brutes, bit without removing the ones from Halo 3 (chieftains were very cool), an new covenant species.

-Forge: The same as seen in Halo 3 but with more options, like delete all in the map.

-A new map editor as seen in Far Cry 2, where you can edit mountains, rivers, etc, and then, you bring that to Forge to complete the map.

-Graphics: Better than Halo 3 but they must still feel like playing Halo.

-Physics: Halo 3 physics are very cool, but they could be more spectacular, as if we have the cowbell skull on.

-Story: This could fail if we read the books, so we shouldn't play as the Master Chief, we could play as regular Spartans.

-Gameplay: I just want to see some new things/tweaks which make Halo: Reach feel new, but with the halo essence, not as the way ODST did (it reminded me too much of CE), just something new. Free roaming would be cool if we have more things to do, not just walking and finding clues an audio records. Just some stuff like saving civilians, marines, destroying Covenant bases, etc.

And that's my opinion.

  • 10.01.2009 9:31 AM PDT

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