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Subject: What if the Forerunner were as religiously nutty as Covs

Think about it, though the prophets knew that humans were 'reclaimers' and that forerunner tech identified them as forerunners, they nevertheless somehow missed the whole 'blow up the galaxy' thing.

That is, they knew that the covenant was a scam to hold power, yet they still seemed intent on their 'great journey'. WTF would they do that? Suicidal? Probably not. Deluded? They were pretty smart (well, Truth was, not so much Regret, but maybe Truth weaseled in two nitwits into the ruling trio so he could stay on top of them).

So why would they want the great journey, and why would they think it's so darn great? Maybe, putting aside misinterpretation, maybe if you were to read the leftover works of the forerunners - who by the way left weird temples all over their stuff - you would read literally what the covenant believed.

Maybe the forerunners were a corrupt, oppressive, decadent, and utterly irrational and fanatic race. Maybe after being so advanced for so long, with such power, managing the affairs of everyone else in the galaxy, they began to use all their brain power thinking about dumb religious/philosophical junk.

They were definitely a bit irrational:
-There's the 'mandate' from the precursor race
-They 'could' have stopped the flood but 'messed up'
-They left their anti-flood kill all machines full of not-properly-secured flood, after we learn (heretic Halo 2) that their efforts studying the flood weren't all that successful (Before building halo)
-And the ark they built to escape to + the shield worlds are empty, wtf?

What if their demise was the product of two competing factions: one sought immortality, and following a precursor legend INVITED the flood to the galaxy by sending a signal thinking that would be an immortality.

The other, taking advantage of this crisis, proposed creating the Halos (one, maybe delta halo, already built) which, yes, stopped the flood until new intelligent life emerged, but more so wiped the brain for the universe.

By the way, how? How does a machine only kill intelligent life? Only a wacky spiritually minded person would figure it out: which is why the delta halo and the whole concept existed BEFORE the flood. Let's say, and was adopted, with the creation of the Ark and the Halo network, into mainstream forerunner society.

Whatever, I could go on but this is getting pretty boring.

In short: during Reach game you access weird terminals containing forerunner 'trapped souls' that recount the fact that they were nutty, but more significantly that the covenant beliefs are actually a correct interpretation, that the Halos were built in a misguided attempt at nirvana - which AI's like guilty spark don't acknowledge, not part of their job - and the first half of the game is discovering this during the attack on reach, and the second half - oops Halo 4 - is after the Ark is destroyed and the forerunner return with crazy flood slave armies and weird as heck religious beleifs and elites and humans fight together like for real and spritual crystal something or others in ark/halo array used to retreive imprint of Sgt Johnson, who naturally returns, incidently during a MC raid on forerunner 'resurrection ship' when, during a cutscene, Master Chief is about to be totally killeded and instead a bullet pops through the enemy's head with great force and the camera slams into focus and there's Sgt J who says, smoke trailing from his gun, "I'm back, b#*$4es."

And its not like any Halo before it at all. And thus we see the inevitable problem of new ideas.

  • 09.30.2009 8:42 PM PDT

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DUDE! READ THE BOOKS!

1. The Forruners stumbled upon the flood and the flood used their ships against each other and they built the halos witch were guarded by tens of thousands of ships until it was built. It was a back up because it anhilliates all life forms and the scientists found only one way to distroy it: Starve it)

2. The 3 prophets on Halo 2 all knew the truth and "truth" (< name) named him self "truth" to remind him of his lies. (sentil or monitor awoke and tried to move the ship but hunters wich are great mecanics were in there and one fried it's circutiong some how and the monitor/sentil died)

3. The covient thought the rings would make them gods because the forruners used words such as: Clensing the galaxy, A final savior to the galaxy, Salvation to those that fight the war, Gody power, THe person who uses such a wepon will be like a god.

MORAL: Read all 6 of the books! and use teh searching b4r.

[Edited on 09.30.2009 9:00 PM PDT]

  • 09.30.2009 8:45 PM PDT

Dude, that is why it would be a cool idea. Because we think the covs are nutty baddies.

Nothing would be more shocking than a bunch of forerunner ships arrived to save the day, hooray! they're back! but it turns out they are nuts and want to impose a religious order on the galaxy's life forms and dominate them etc.

Then, it would be even more messed up to learn that the forerunner not only caused (as in, this was unknown, so the cannon would speak otherwise, because this is a reveal, of a secret) the flood to come into the galaxy in pursuit of a wacky religious idea, but invented the tech behind the halo rings (with the insane idea of wiping all conciousness simultaneously from the galaxy to reach nirvana and 'free' the 'galatic conciousness') before the flood were even known, and though these are only factions, and the mainstream adopted the tech in desperation as a last measure, the whole incident was caused by weird moral and philosophical decadence among the forerunner.

Okay, the details don't matter, I'm just trying to give an example of what could be.

The point for which I made this thread was to propose a weird and cool 'surprise' which would be the equally awe-inspiring return of the super race of forerunners, as well as the revelation that their return is a really bad thing, and that the flood and maybe someone else is still out there and MC has to blow up even more you-know-what before its all over.

See?

  • 09.30.2009 9:11 PM PDT