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Subject: Yet another BR thread...

Hi, I am the White Mamba Overlord of our group the ODSM.
We are not a clan, and we don't play the game for competition. Instead we play for fun, and to hang out with friends. If you are interested in joining go to our group homepage and sign up. Membership is open.
We are mostly a Halo 3: ODST group for help with achievements and stuff, but we also will play a lot of Halo 3 matchmaking.

I am going to put my idea out there:

If the BR is going to be in Halo: Reach I personally think that it should be changed... MAJORLY!

I think that the BR in Reach should be simalar to Halo 3's magnum. It should be a single fire weapon and have about the same accuracy as the magnum. It shouldn't be very accurate, but still fairly effective.

If you didn't notice, the Halo 3's pistol is almost as affective as the BR. Only takes 5 headshots to kill, and it dosn't have the option to zoom in, yet people hate it. In my oppinion, if there is any "pro" weapon to use. It would have to be the Magnum. It is effective, but it is hard to use.

MLG is actually very "noobish" in my opinion. I was watching a video the other day of some pro MLG'ers playing ODST, and they were complaining about the Pistol not being powerfull enough. I don't know what you think, but IMO that just proves that MLG is filled with power "noobs."

I am going to repeat myself here if you didn't really understatnd me before:

Just go out and use the Halo 3 Magnum some time and you will see what I mean. It is actually really powerfull. It just can't zoom and isn't as accurate.
The BR should be the same way. It should still be able to zoom in though, and it should still be able to range as it does now. I just think that it shouldn't be as accurate and only be able to single fire.


Oh, and if you feel like flaming me and want to say "Stop crying you noob! You only complain about it because you can't use it! Just look at your stats!" Please think before you say that. I am fairly good at using the BR. I just prefer to use other weapons because I find the BR to be very borring and repetitive. I like to use variety.


So what do you guys think? Do you like my idea? Do you hate it?

EDIT: If you have any ideas that could change the BR for the better. Feel free to post them. I would love to hear. =)

[Edited on 10.01.2009 11:11 AM PDT]

  • 10.01.2009 10:58 AM PDT

Ummmmmmm?

POW!!!!

If you ask me.

A person who runs straight towards his oponet and kills them with their bare-hands.....while very stupid.

IS TOTALLY BAD ASS.

So how can that be noobish.

You can shoot a person from far away with a gun the never missed if you're good with it.

Or you can run right towards them and break their face like a savage.

Ar noobs aren't noobs at all. They're brave little maniacs.

  • 10.01.2009 11:02 AM PDT

Hi, I am the White Mamba Overlord of our group the ODSM.
We are not a clan, and we don't play the game for competition. Instead we play for fun, and to hang out with friends. If you are interested in joining go to our group homepage and sign up. Membership is open.
We are mostly a Halo 3: ODST group for help with achievements and stuff, but we also will play a lot of Halo 3 matchmaking.

lol. I like you. =)

  • 10.01.2009 11:03 AM PDT

the magnum is a good substitute for the br when u find urself in an AR start match.pull out ur pistol.but this touches on what people hate about the other weapons how if sum1 gets in close it renders your weapon useless..u have a pistol and an guy with an AR charges at you your scrwed.if the BR isnt all that great at close range the pistols got no chance

also the magnum is more acurate than u think..play swat magnums on guardian youl see what im talking about

[Edited on 10.01.2009 11:05 AM PDT]

  • 10.01.2009 11:04 AM PDT

You must be joking. The pistol is the worst weapon in Halo 3 because it's not a medium ranged weapon like the Halo: CE version.

  • 10.01.2009 11:05 AM PDT

Ummmmmmm?

POW!!!!

Also, the Magnum rocks, but doesn't work if you're 9000 feet away like the Br does.

So really, duel-wielding the magnum, allows you to effectively kill things from a short distance, but you still have to add the Bad Ass factor and run towards them sometimes.

So Magnum wins.

  • 10.01.2009 11:06 AM PDT

Posted by: WhaleSharkMouth
Also, the Magnum rocks, but doesn't work if you're 9000 feet away like the Br does.

So really, duel-wielding the magnum, allows you to effectively kill things from a short distance, but you still have to add the Bad Ass factor and run towards them sometimes.

So Magnum wins.


Would you use Magnums against a BR or AR?

  • 10.01.2009 11:08 AM PDT

Hi, I am the White Mamba Overlord of our group the ODSM.
We are not a clan, and we don't play the game for competition. Instead we play for fun, and to hang out with friends. If you are interested in joining go to our group homepage and sign up. Membership is open.
We are mostly a Halo 3: ODST group for help with achievements and stuff, but we also will play a lot of Halo 3 matchmaking.

But that's exactly what I am saying. The BR right now is way to easy to use in any situation. It basically makes all of the other weapons useless. If it was more like the magnum, you would have to pull out the AR every now and then in order to survive, but you could still use it for ranged situations.

It is just too much of an all around weapon IMO, and it should be changed in some way. My idea is just one of many ways it could be changed.

EDIT: This is directed towards CrymzenAssassin.

EDIT 2:
And I'm not saying it's not accurate. I'm just saying it's less accurate than the BR and more challanging to use.
I can hit people much easier with the BR close range than the magnum. I don't know why exactly. Maybe it's because it is burst fire, and it shoots faster.

[Edited on 10.01.2009 11:15 AM PDT]

  • 10.01.2009 11:09 AM PDT

Ummmmmmm?

POW!!!!


Posted by: Maul Marauder
Posted by: WhaleSharkMouth
Also, the Magnum rocks, but doesn't work if you're 9000 feet away like the Br does.

So really, duel-wielding the magnum, allows you to effectively kill things from a short distance, but you still have to add the Bad Ass factor and run towards them sometimes.

So Magnum wins.



Would you use Magnums against a BR or AR?



I would use it against both

  • 10.01.2009 11:10 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

I agree with you on MLG players. They all love the BR because it is THE BEST WEAPON. The Pistol however requires lots of skill to use, you actually have to COMBINE IT *Gasp!* with other weapons like the PLASMA RIFLE or SMG *Double Gasp!*

Or even worse REAL TEMWORK COULD COME INTO PLAY *ZOMGLOTSOFGASPS!*

  • 10.01.2009 11:12 AM PDT

In the future, "all around weapons" would be normal, so I don't see how a BR is a bad thing.

  • 10.01.2009 11:13 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Maul Marauder
Posted by: WhaleSharkMouth
Also, the Magnum rocks, but doesn't work if you're 9000 feet away like the Br does.

So really, duel-wielding the magnum, allows you to effectively kill things from a short distance, but you still have to add the Bad Ass factor and run towards them sometimes.

So Magnum wins.


Would you use Magnums against a BR or AR?

Dual Magnums are capable of killing in 7 shots. This means that if you shoot both magnums at the same time, you should kill on your 4th shot. Did you know the Magnum has a slightly faster fire rate than the BR? It actually WILL KILL FASTER if you do this.

  • 10.01.2009 11:13 AM PDT

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Dual Magnums are capable of killing in 7 shots. This means that if you shoot both magnums at the same time, you should kill on your 4th shot. Did you know the Magnum has a slightly faster fire rate than the BR? It actually WILL KILL FASTER if you do this.


Yes, but you're dual wielding. What if you need to grab a flag? Or throw a grenade?

If they replace the BR with a pistol, it's going to be another BR-like weapon. If bungie doesn't, they lost the competitive fans that keep playing their game.

  • 10.01.2009 11:17 AM PDT

Hi, I am the White Mamba Overlord of our group the ODSM.
We are not a clan, and we don't play the game for competition. Instead we play for fun, and to hang out with friends. If you are interested in joining go to our group homepage and sign up. Membership is open.
We are mostly a Halo 3: ODST group for help with achievements and stuff, but we also will play a lot of Halo 3 matchmaking.

Posted by: Maul Marauder
In the future, "all around weapons" would be normal, so I don't see how a BR is a bad thing.

For realism. Yes it's a good thing. But for gameplay. No, it just takes the fun out of the game and renders all other weapons usless.

  • 10.01.2009 11:17 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Tack ll7
Posted by: Maul Marauder
In the future, "all around weapons" would be normal, so I don't see how a BR is a bad thing.

For realism. Yes it's a good thing. But for gameplay. No, it just takes the fun out of the game and renders all other weapons usless.

He speaketh the truth.

I have made a description of why this is the case before, if this gets out of hand I will pull that out.

  • 10.01.2009 11:19 AM PDT

Hi, I am the White Mamba Overlord of our group the ODSM.
We are not a clan, and we don't play the game for competition. Instead we play for fun, and to hang out with friends. If you are interested in joining go to our group homepage and sign up. Membership is open.
We are mostly a Halo 3: ODST group for help with achievements and stuff, but we also will play a lot of Halo 3 matchmaking.

Posted by: Tonoottu
So if i prefer a safe weapon like the BR, where you can shoot up to mid range instead of a pistol that is weaker and less accurate makes me a noob? And btw it takes over a clip of ammo to get the brutes shields down so the automag is weak... also iz not surprised that gold bars go to the forumz and drink nice whine

I never said that the automag was strong. It just makes you have to use some other weapons other than it to take down certain enimies.

Oh and BTW I am proud of my gold bars. Get over it. Rank means nothing.

  • 10.01.2009 11:23 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Tonoottu
So if i prefer a safe weapon like the BR, where you can shoot up to mid range instead of a pistol that is weaker and less accurate makes me a noob? And btw it takes over a clip of ammo to get the brutes shields down so the automag is weak... also iz not surprised that gold bars go to the forumz and drink nice whine

Yes. It is weak, it is the EXACT SAME power as the Halo 2 pistol. THATS THE POINT. It requires a combined effort of itself and another weapon, this is balanced, as every single weapon in Halo 3 if used properly requires help from another weapon. EXCEPT the BR, the Carbine, and the Magnum. They stand out as weapons that are TOO GOOD.

Also, gold bars make you rich. Also, he may have gold bars, but I don't see a little birdy next to your name, I just see stars.

[Edited on 10.01.2009 11:26 AM PDT]

  • 10.01.2009 11:24 AM PDT

Hi, I am the White Mamba Overlord of our group the ODSM.
We are not a clan, and we don't play the game for competition. Instead we play for fun, and to hang out with friends. If you are interested in joining go to our group homepage and sign up. Membership is open.
We are mostly a Halo 3: ODST group for help with achievements and stuff, but we also will play a lot of Halo 3 matchmaking.

The way I look at it. The Halo community is split into two seperate parts:

BR: 50%.

Every other weapon: 50%.

Although I have noticed that a lot of the BR people are wanting a change, so IMO the BR should be changed or taken out completely.

  • 10.01.2009 11:30 AM PDT

You just lost the game.

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Posted by: Maul Marauder
Posted by: WhaleSharkMouth
Also, the Magnum rocks, but doesn't work if you're 9000 feet away like the Br does.

So really, duel-wielding the magnum, allows you to effectively kill things from a short distance, but you still have to add the Bad Ass factor and run towards them sometimes.

So Magnum wins.


Would you use Magnums against a BR or AR?

Dual Magnums are capable of killing in 7 shots. This means that if you shoot both magnums at the same time, you should kill on your 4th shot. Did you know the Magnum has a slightly faster fire rate than the BR? It actually WILL KILL FASTER if you do this.


Actually it takes 6 shots. So, if you place all your shots on the head, you'll kill them on the third shot duel pistols.

  • 10.01.2009 11:30 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: BoomShakalaka16
Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Posted by: Maul Marauder
Posted by: WhaleSharkMouth
Also, the Magnum rocks, but doesn't work if you're 9000 feet away like the Br does.

So really, duel-wielding the magnum, allows you to effectively kill things from a short distance, but you still have to add the Bad Ass factor and run towards them sometimes.

So Magnum wins.

Would you use Magnums against a BR or AR?

Dual Magnums are capable of killing in 7 shots. This means that if you shoot both magnums at the same time, you should kill on your 4th shot. Did you know the Magnum has a slightly faster fire rate than the BR? It actually WILL KILL FASTER if you do this.


Actually it takes 6 shots. So, if you place all your shots on the head, you'll kill them on the third shot duel pistols.

You don't want to argue with me on this one. It IS seven, I HAVE tested on a player less body. The reason people make the "It's 6 shots" mistake is because they don't realize that once in a while the enemy has TAKEN A LITTLE DAMAGE.

[Edited on 10.01.2009 11:37 AM PDT]

  • 10.01.2009 11:36 AM PDT