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Subject: Add Matchmaking to Reach Firefight

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Poll: Add Matchmaking to Reach Firefight  [closed]
Yes.:  73%
(36 Votes)
No.:  14%
(7 Votes)
No opinion/Doesnt matter.:  12%
(6 Votes)
Total Votes: 49

Hey.
I know this is a subject debated often, but I don't think there has been a definitive poll about it yet. Perhaps I am mistaken since I don't visit the Reach forum often. However I did check, and found non in existence. So bare with me.

OK, on topic. Firefight is awesomeness in all it's degree (as wel all know) and a lot of people like to see matchmaking integrated into firefight.

No possible due to technical reasons in ODST. Possible in Reach since it is a new engine.

As many have stated, a matchmaking system (or alike) comes with quitters/team killers/etc I am very aware.
But it would be nice to have the matchmaking system integrated anyway, don't you agree? The fact of it having it in, doesn't mean it is an obligation to use firefight, you could always have the option to create a custom firefight game.

Thanks for reading, and please be polite people :)
(English is not my native language, sorry guys)

EDIT: P.s. With enough votes we can maybe get Bungie's attention and make wonders happen :) (wishful thinking)


[Edited on 10.03.2009 11:39 AM PDT]

  • 10.03.2009 11:17 AM PDT

SO MUCH!!

  • 10.03.2009 11:30 AM PDT

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fire fight is campaign, because it uses "bots", so only if reach uses a different game engine, can there be mm for firefight.

  • 10.03.2009 11:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: BOB THE DOCTER
fire fight is campaign, because it uses "bots", so only if reach uses a different game engine, can there be mm for firefight.

Now of this I am unsure. It has been stated by some Bungie developer that the reason there is no matchmaking in firefight is because it is build on top of the campaign engine, and since there is no MM in campaign. it would be a major rewrite of code to get it done.

But... this time around Bungie has the time to write code as it pleases.
So there is IMHO no excuse to say it inst done. Because they have stated that technically it is possible.

  • 10.03.2009 11:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: BOB THE DOCTER
fire fight is campaign, because it uses "bots", so only if reach uses a different game engine, can there be mm for firefight.

Umm... No... All they have to do is update the engine, which I imagine they would do anyways.

  • 10.03.2009 11:37 AM PDT

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i definitely agree, but it would have to have the options to onlyy search for your language, skill range and and your language for tactics. but your guys right about the bots:(.

p.s. you have great english:) and it made perfect sense

  • 10.03.2009 11:39 AM PDT

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Reach isn't going to have firefight, or else nobody will play ODST.

  • 10.03.2009 11:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: YumBuscuitMan
Reach isn't going to have firefight, or else nobody will play ODST.

Valid point.
but it doesn't have to be firefight perse, I can think of countless game modes with the same idea.

Replace firefight with any game mode except campaign.


@ Animal6014.
Thanks, a bit of grammar and spelling check does wonders hehe.


[Edited on 10.03.2009 11:53 AM PDT]

  • 10.03.2009 11:52 AM PDT

Posted by: YumBuscuitMan
Reach isn't going to have firefight, or else nobody will play ODST.

Reach isn't coming out for a year. You expect people to play ODST for that long?

  • 10.03.2009 11:57 AM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

For my gamertag, look up "Ghoulishtie"

Even if there is a firefight for Reach, I still wouldnt want matchmaking for it.

If I wasnt so lazy, I would go and find a bungie mods post from a month or so back that included a well thought out and detailed post as of why it would suck.

Put it this way though. halo 3 matchmaking population = 70% jerks (quitters, betrayers, etc)
firefight + jerks = fail
fail = game ended + jerks leaving/ruining game
Overall total = your time wasted

Math makes things simple.



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  • 10.03.2009 11:58 AM PDT
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where's the Both button?

  • 10.03.2009 11:59 AM PDT

Why would anyone not want MM for Firefight? If it was implemented, no one would force you to use it, it would just be an extra resource when no friends are online. Go MM in Firefight!

  • 10.03.2009 12:00 PM PDT

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@ IIGhoulishtieII
This is IMO a lame excuse. I don't know if this is a exact quote of Bungie. If it is I pitty it. They are saying 70% of their gamers are quitters. Nice PR don't you agree?

I think it would be nice to have the option to choose MM for Firefight/similar.

[Edited on 10.03.2009 12:01 PM PDT]

  • 10.03.2009 12:01 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

For my gamertag, look up "Ghoulishtie"

Posted by: Geoxbreather
@ IIGhoulishtieII
This is IMO a lame excuse. I don't know if this is a exact quote of Bungie. If it is I pitty it. They are saying 70% of their gamers are quitters. Nice PR don't you agree?

I think it would be nice to have the option to choose MM for Firefight/similar.


I meant there was a forum mods post awhile back that I cant remember where it is, but he explained it pretty detailed at how MM in firefight wouldnt work. I agreed with him, and summarized up what I could remember.

Halo 3 is filled with jerks. Weapon callers, betrayers, quitters, kids, people that just stand there, etc. Seeing as a GOOD percentage of Halo 3's online play consists of this, imagine online firefight (where if someone left, the game would end) with these people in it. To me, it would get more annoying than fun.

Cry about matchmaking in firefight if you want. I'm remaining on the side that doesnt want useless things though.

  • 10.03.2009 12:18 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Matchmaking
More than 8 maps (night versions shouldn't count)
Larger team sizes

  • 10.03.2009 12:22 PM PDT
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i hadnt actually thought that reach would have firefight lol thank you for opennning my eyes

  • 10.03.2009 12:23 PM PDT

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I see youre point here, but I still believe this MM in firefight could do wonders.

people quiting/calling weapon/team killing is mostly because they take joy in ruining the EXP level/stats/score of people.
Ranked play is serious buisness to some. And how fun is it to -blam!- that up.

Firefight isnt ranked, its meant for fun. So I believe trolls will see no fun in ruining this experience.

  • 10.03.2009 12:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
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...What about a custom game searcher...

  • 10.03.2009 12:45 PM PDT

Matchmaking Firefight could be good, but it could also go so wrong. Think about lag. Whoever pulls host would make or break the game, so if they were to find a way to keep the firefight match confined to 12 minutes, and search for either: People with a similar connection quality, or a smart engine to pull the best connection and make him/her host. If they were to do that, I might be down, but still, matchmaking is fun because there's a lot of options to choose from (different playlists) so before you start asking if it would be good in Reach, try to figure out gametypes that would work in it, then talk about it.

  • 10.03.2009 12:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: YumBuscuitMan
Reach isn't going to have firefight, or else nobody will play ODST.


Bungie doesn't make money, because people still play their game. If you have purchased your copy of halo 3: odst bungie got their money, if you play it in a year or not won't give bungie more money.
@Topic: I have friends so I don't care. If it would include matchamking it would be like halo 3's matchmaking, you either get kids without mic, kids that don't speak english or bad kids, and most of the time all of the three.

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  • 10.03.2009 12:55 PM PDT

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@ blstu08
I see you're point and you have a very valid point.
Lag makes or brakes the system, but the MM system could have a "theater based lag detector" system...

Does that make sense.
You know, go into theater mode to see who has the best connectiong. That its autodetected. And it could be made in such a way that it will only put people from the same continent into a game. there are ways to solve the lag issue.

And to another poster. Custom game finder sounds good. But then you would have countless lobbies just waiting to be filled. However, still better then the current ODST firefight system :P

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It would be like stealing from N@Z1 Zombies, but it would be pretty cool.


P.S. I had to write it like that so it would be easier to understand than reading a "blam"

  • 10.03.2009 1:16 PM PDT

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For it to work Bungie would at least need to allow players to drop out of a Firefight game without it ending for everyone. Otherwise it would become too frustating a game ending prematurely because some stranger didn't like the map.

Added to that, being able to drop IN to a firefight game at any point (a la a custom game) would be great too.

  • 10.03.2009 1:40 PM PDT

what about what

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It would be like stealing from N@Z1 Zombies, but it would be pretty cool.


P.S. I had to write it like that so it would be easier to understand than reading a "blam"
i really dont get you. you really think cod was the first game to have a survival game mode or a bot match

  • 10.03.2009 1:41 PM PDT

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