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Subject: No Battle Rifle

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Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
The BR is the only weapon that can get more than one kill per mag in a typical MM scenario.

It is the most accurate gun.
It has the most range, and least spread.
It has a scope
It has the largest mag.

Sounds pretty fair huh?

Posted by: Handl3 This fo0l
ffs im sick of noobs always saying battlerifle is "unbalanced"

it has been PROVEN that the covanent carbine can kill someone quicker than a battlerifle (only difference is 1 shot but still...)

and besides, its piss-easy to kill someone with a battlerifle, even with an ar. ive done _____ loads of times...ive seen it happen ____ loads of times...

the only people that complain about the br, Are those that;
a) can't use it
b) can't stand getting pawned 'cause they suck.
c) need to blame something or someone for their total SUCKAGE....

cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it....


umm....Sniper, Rockets, Needler, Shotgun all can easily get more then one kill per mag. Only the spray and pray full auto weapons can't do it.

  • 10.06.2009 8:22 PM PDT

Whats it to ya?

Ok i like the BR but im not going to argue. First off you said that if you dont have a BR then you lose...well i do just fine without it. Ill use it if theres one available but if not I deal with it. If you dont have a BR find one or play close range with an AR or other weapon. Honestly people need to stop complaining about the BR because its here to stay. I got to a 40 when i got the game by coasting with an AR in Lone Wolves and I sucked with a BR, but i eventually learned how to use it and became good with it and i got to a 50. Pretty much learn how to use all the weapons or dont complain. Maybe i should make a poll about not having the AR in Reach because im sick of kids camping around corners with AR, but i wont because i learn about there strategy and deal with it. Sorry but I have yet to see a 45 or higher start a topic about taking away a BR. Im not sayin you suck but merely that you need to learn to use all weapons and stop complaining about people who use all weapons to there advantage. EX: If someone is using rockets, get a bubble shield and make the battle close range rather than mid-range. If someone is using BR, make the battle close range by camping around a corner with AR/shotgun/mauler and always carry a bubble/regen. My only point is that you should stop complaining about one weapon because to be honest there are so many weapons i hate in this game but have learned to use to my advantage and have learned to like them. EX: Plasma rifle takes three plasma shots then beat down to kill which takes half the time of Assault rifle beat down combo. Dual spiker to beat down pwns. Im not going against you bro im just saying that there are ways around beating the BR.

  • 10.06.2009 8:34 PM PDT

yes: ) suck it MLG suck it go to hell for not haveing motion trackers in your dumb playlist happy dance

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  • 10.06.2009 8:41 PM PDT

Im pretty sure that in CONTACT HARVEST good ol seargent major has a prototype....this may very well open the doors for bungie to make any canon redesigns to it... plus since seargant johnson IS in FALL OF REACH it could make an appearance with this prototype if the story will switch between characters like rumors say.....

  • 10.06.2009 8:57 PM PDT
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I really feel that if we are playing a prequel to Halo: CE that took place within a few days or even hours, we should have the same weapon set as that of Halo: CE. This, of course, means that no BR or carbine should be made available to the players.

  • 10.06.2009 9:02 PM PDT

Posted by: klegs iz beast
another post saying no br
wow...
you people seriously want no balance in the game
and by the way yes we the MLG community want the BR because its a balanced competitive weapon
You obvisously hate because you cant use it

Halo 2 BR will always be better then the H3 BR because of it was a consistent weapon on both live or LAN
Halo 3 is inconsistent on both live and LAN because of bullet regristration is horrible

and you say it takes no skil..
Wow.. its 4 shots to the head.. nope
no wonder you dont like it because you suck with it
its 3X body and 1X Head[/quote]

The BR is not a balanced weapon, most gametypes are AR start, so all the hardcore players rush BR and those who dont get them, or cant use them, get destroyed. I guess it'd be balanced in MLG gametypes, seeing most people who play MLG like the BR or use it enough to use it well, and of course another person saying I suck at it.


It is the most balanced weapon ingame because its the only weapon that isnt CQC or a Sniper. Its not balanced ok play a game of your ars and CQC and give someone really good with the sniper you wont be to touch them at all. Now with a Br you can de scope them and make them pull back for cover and push towards them and kill them possibly
and if you insist i said you suck then you suck becasue your arugement about how there should be no BR makes no sense
im not standing from a MLG stand point im talking in general
Most people dislike it because the CANNOT use it
they say it ruins there gameplay experince because they constantly get killed with a effective weapon. A person having fun or playing compettitively is going to pick a weapon that help them rack up kills better
i dont see anyone complaining about the carbine, its the single shot version of the BR. ive played games just using carbine alone swapping my br for it and ive had no complaints but then i hop to the BR and i hear people moan and complain
hey for now on ill use the carbine all make all of you hate it

[Edited on 10.06.2009 10:44 PM PDT]

  • 10.06.2009 10:40 PM PDT

Posted by: bbearchell
Ok i like the BR but im not going to argue. First off you said that if you dont have a BR then you lose...well i do just fine without it. Ill use it if theres one available but if not I deal with it. If you dont have a BR find one or play close range with an AR or other weapon. Honestly people need to stop complaining about the BR because its here to stay. I got to a 40 when i got the game by coasting with an AR in Lone Wolves and I sucked with a BR, but i eventually learned how to use it and became good with it and i got to a 50. Pretty much learn how to use all the weapons or dont complain. Maybe i should make a poll about not having the AR in Reach because im sick of kids camping around corners with AR, but i wont because i learn about there strategy and deal with it. Sorry but I have yet to see a 45 or higher start a topic about taking away a BR. Im not sayin you suck but merely that you need to learn to use all weapons and stop complaining about people who use all weapons to there advantage. EX: If someone is using rockets, get a bubble shield and make the battle close range rather than mid-range. If someone is using BR, make the battle close range by camping around a corner with AR/shotgun/mauler and always carry a bubble/regen. My only point is that you should stop complaining about one weapon because to be honest there are so many weapons i hate in this game but have learned to use to my advantage and have learned to like them. EX: Plasma rifle takes three plasma shots then beat down to kill which takes half the time of Assault rifle beat down combo. Dual spiker to beat down pwns. Im not going against you bro im just saying that there are ways around beating the BR.


Finally someone who has pratical knowledge
thankyou for finally posting something to open peoples minds

  • 10.06.2009 10:41 PM PDT
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Klegs iz Beast
I disagree i could get multiple head shots with one burst and sill hate the damn thing

1- it sounds like a air-soft gun
2- the problem is not so much "The BR" but its the fact that there are a select few weapons that "head shot ability" like the carbine, magnum, and sniper. which granted should f---ing kill you but so should a .308 from the AR or hell a super-heated plasma bolt to the face

[Edited on 10.06.2009 10:52 PM PDT]

  • 10.06.2009 10:51 PM PDT

Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
Klegs iz Beast
I disagree i could get multiple head shots with one burst and sill hate the damn thing

1- it sounds like a air-soft gun
2- the problem is not so much "The BR" but its the fact that there are a select few weapons that "head shot ability" like the carbine, magnum, and sniper. which granted should f---ing kill you but so should a .308 from the AR or hell a super-heated plasma bolt to the face



I agree with you about with headshot ability weapons but not all weapons have a purpose to be headshot only and not
for Ex: the AR is a close CQC weapon it is meant for spray and pray tactics. Plasma pistol is used to knock out shield make you pull out a" headshot ability" weapon or any weapon to finish the kill

Theres your probelm you are going for headshots with that kind of weapon the bullet spread and bullet regristration system make head shots with the BR like shooting a dime with a airsoft gun bullets may land time to time but not always
when some land the game half the time does not regrister the shot thats why you shoot the chest and make most of your shots land
both on LAN or Live the weapon is faulty

i didnt say the BR was the greatest weapon but its the only weapon that balances and fills the void between CQC weapons and Sinpers

[Edited on 10.06.2009 11:15 PM PDT]

  • 10.06.2009 11:13 PM PDT
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Witty Words.

So basically you're saying if my gun kills the enemy before he kills me that's a bad thing? By the way it really isn't very hard to kill someone with a BR when you don't have one, that's where the skill thing and tactics play their part. You can trust that statement considering it came from me since it is my fourth ToD under beat downs, AR, and shotty. People with BR's can be outsmarted.

[Edited on 10.06.2009 11:22 PM PDT]

  • 10.06.2009 11:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Panzeereapa
The Halo 3 BR requires you to lead and has a bullet spread, so if there's going to be one, make it that one. Otherwise, remove it ENTIRELY. Maybe only in Campaign. I'm sick of the BR being the only gun in Halo 3. I miss the glory days of the M6D rush.


I totally agree.

  • 10.06.2009 11:35 PM PDT
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klegs iz beast

i actually put up a post about the AR, saying it should be the gap in between sniper, and CQC. it on the first page of this topic
and i not did not say that the BR should be removed. i just think it should be louder. and more of a marksmanship weapon instead of a jack of all trades weapon. i really think the AR should be the Jack of trades

  • 10.06.2009 11:47 PM PDT
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One day... I am gonna grow wings... A chemical reaction... Hysterical and useless... hystecial and let down and hanging around... crushed like a bug in the ground.

The AR takes 10x more skill than the BR.

Br = 4 Shots and dead.

ar = Whole Clip and short range aswell as a need to use either grenage or Melele then only is it lights out.


Also relying on 1 weapon takes skill does it.
Why not play with the Magnum if you think the BR takes skill.


Sriously get rid of the BR.

  • 10.07.2009 12:19 AM PDT

Its a trap!!!

exactly the BR really balances out the guy who is good with the sniper. I too am tired of people not liking a weapon because they aren't as good with it. They hide behind the excuse that the weapon has been around too long and they need another one to replace it.

Hmm by that logic lets take out all the other weapons that have been around even longer: Rockets, Sniper, Shotgun, Plasma Pistol, Plasma Rifle, Needler.

And also by that logic lets remove weapons that were introduced around the same time as the BR... SMG, Sword, Brute Shot, Carbine, Beam Rifle. May as as well remove the AR since its been in more games then the BR as well

hey why dont we just get rid of all the nades while we are added

So what do we get when we remove all them a game with only. Spikers, Magnum, Mauler, Hammer, Laser and spike grenades. I am sure that game will be campy and full of boring strategies

[Edited on 10.07.2009 12:43 AM PDT]

  • 10.07.2009 12:41 AM PDT

Posted by: Panzeereapa
The Halo 3 BR requires you to lead and has a bullet spread, so if there's going to be one, make it that one. Otherwise, remove it ENTIRELY. Maybe only in Campaign. I'm sick of the BR being the only gun in Halo 3. I miss the glory days of the M6D rush.


Really, if i have an AR with me, the only weapon i am going to pick is the BR and the powerweapons. If i have a BR i just pick up the powerweapons. If we only had ARs, no-one would pick up any other guns than the powerweapons.

Posted by: AngasBoy
The AR takes 10x more skill than the BR.

Br = 4 Shots and dead.

ar = Whole Clip and short range aswell as a need to use either grenage or Melele then only is it lights out.


Also relying on 1 weapon takes skill does it.
Why not play with the Magnum if you think the BR takes skill.


What? AR takes skill, is running forward and pressing the melee button skill? Nah. You need more skill in fourshotting people than spraying and meleeing with the AR :)

[Edited on 10.07.2009 7:44 AM PDT]

  • 10.07.2009 7:40 AM PDT
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MLG =/= BR.
mlg startd off with halo 1 which had no BR.

  • 10.07.2009 7:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: Myself
Armor Lock is not a crutch, it is a wheelchair!

To all of the people saying get rid of the BR. It's a great weapon but due to canonical reasons cannot be in the game.

To all of the people saying the BR is better than the AR, it is true for the most part but not in CQC where the AR belongs.

  • 10.07.2009 7:56 AM PDT

I agree 100% OP. Get rid of the battle rifle. I'll be honest, I'm not exactly a great Halo player since I haven't played the game since H3 was released until ODST came out. But that's mainly because every map revolved around who had the BR, Sniper, or Rockets. If you don't have a BR, the only other gun in the game to register headshots are the sniper, pistol, and covie rifle. It's ridiculous that only 4 guns in the game register headshots. Take it out.

  • 10.07.2009 8:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gavintaft433
There better not be a Battle Rifle in this game. It's just an excuse for all the people that can only use that gun and none others, besides the sniper. But of course Bungie will put it in to please the -blam!- MLG "pros". Either that or they could make a new gun, thats original.


Halo has always had a circular weapon tree where the game plays out centering around one mid-range versatile weapon. Not because MLG demanded it and they are so afraid of losing a tiny portion of their fan base. I love the battle rifle, but what you said about people only using the BR because they can't use another gun is just foolish. If someone can use a precision weapon that is capable of getting headshots, they won't have trouble with one of the many bullet hoses in this game. Just because a person likes the battle rifle and prefers using it does not mean they like MLG by the way.

[Edited on 10.07.2009 9:18 AM PDT]

  • 10.07.2009 8:14 AM PDT

not sure why so many people complain about the br if you dont like just dont use it simple as that

  • 10.07.2009 8:31 AM PDT

Posted by: Ihtesam
Posted by: Gavintaft433
There better not be a Battle Rifle in this game. It's just an excuse for all the people that can only use that gun and none others, besides the sniper. But of course Bungie will put it in to please the -blam!- MLG "pros". Either that or they could make a new gun, thats original.


umm... some people here really like the Battle Rifle, so yeah I want the BR to be in this game.

Ihtesam Rahman


He speaks the truth.

  • 10.07.2009 8:34 AM PDT
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I either want the BR to stay or for the SSMG to be introduced to multiplayer.

  • 10.07.2009 8:43 AM PDT

If you ever watched the PAX video for ODST, they talk about the BR being removed from ODST. If I recall Joe Staten said the BR had become the only weapon needed to play anymore. Bungie wanted players to use other weapons again, not just one weapon. I personally thing the BR is over powered, yet I have to use it so that I can kill someone or else I'm getting killed. It shouldn't be in the game, the Halo: CE pistol should be.

  • 10.07.2009 8:49 AM PDT