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Subject: *An Honest Survey for the Halo Community*

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Poll: *An Honest Survey for the Halo Community*  [closed]
Agree:  71%
(61 Votes)
Disagree:  29%
(25 Votes)
Total Votes: 86

If they brought back the functionality of the Halo 1 Pistol, but put a "rifle" skin on it so it wasn't TECHNICALLY a Pistol, would people still complain? The ONLY reason people complained about the Halo 1 Pistol was because it was "overpowered for a sidearm," however if you change it from a Pistol to a Rifle, but have it SHOOT/ZOOM/FUNCTION the same way, would people STILL complain about it?

I for one want to see an actual return to a single shot weapon that is dominant throughout the game. In my opinion, ALL kinds of burst fire weapons suck, ESPECIALLY with online latency. And no, I do not suck with the BR, I just find it very boring and problematic for online play.

Single shot, explosive rounds is the way to go. Don't say the Carbine because you don't get that same feeling/effect as you do when you pop rounds into people with weapons even like the ODST Pistol.


On that note, would you guys also want more weapons with the zoom capabilities like the SMG and Pistol from ODST? I personally thought they were very well done and I think ODST had the BEST gameplay since Halo 1, including the health pack system which I hope will return for Reach.

Thoughts?


*Edit*
If the BR worked like THIS!




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[Edited on 10.12.2009 11:51 AM PDT]

  • 10.06.2009 5:40 PM PDT

you will have some form of hate againist the weapon because theres alot of people in the community that hate rifles. They cant stand the BR because there best friends are CQB weapons

But the idea of turning the H1 pistol into a rifle isnt a bad idea. I agree with it

  • 10.06.2009 5:49 PM PDT

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like the br but not as overpowered
good thinkin

  • 10.06.2009 6:13 PM PDT
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actually the BR was originally supposed to semi auto, pretty much how you described it the pistol with a rifle skin and with the power toned down. I would love to see that

  • 10.06.2009 6:16 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Well, the Halo 1 pistol got a new skin and slightly less damage in the Halo 2 BR.

It got nerfed again and spliced in Halo 3, for the H3 BR and Magnum.

If it is too effective compared to other weapons, I will complaing.


Edit:
Semi Auto BR -> CARBINE

[Edited on 10.06.2009 6:18 PM PDT]

  • 10.06.2009 6:18 PM PDT
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They should just make the BR be single, and burst shot.

  • 10.06.2009 6:18 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

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They should just make the BR be single, and burst shot.
Right. Because the BR needs a boost, and not a nerf. Let's make it MORE versatile.

  • 10.06.2009 6:21 PM PDT
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posted by shotgun guy
They should just make the BR be single, and burst shot

well thats a good idea but you give a fire selection swicth to the BR then you need to give it to the AR and SMG one two. I like the idea of a fire selector but with the way Halos controls are it would just make it clunky



[Edited on 10.06.2009 6:29 PM PDT]

  • 10.06.2009 6:28 PM PDT


Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
actually the BR was originally supposed to semi auto, pretty much how you described it the pistol with a rifle skin and with the power toned down. I would love to see that


i so that too and im not sure why they stoped it but it would be nice
but they def need yo mix up the weapons so that would be sick

  • 10.06.2009 6:34 PM PDT

I'm going to have to disagree.

It's waay to over powered, if that happened then no one would use any other weapons.

Carbines would become obsolete and BRs would get owned, not to mention the Magnum.

  • 10.06.2009 7:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: Adrian Da G
I'm going to have to disagree.

It's waay to over powered, if that happened then no one would use any other weapons.

Carbines would become obsolete and BRs would get owned, not to mention the Magnum.


Ever heard of a thing called balance? Also, do you play Halo 3 at all? All people use is the BR... Carbines aren't even ON all the maps, so how does that promote the idea of having alternatives for midrange weapons other than the BR...

  • 10.06.2009 7:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: cyther 2
like the br but not as overpowered
good thinkin

The Halo 3 Battle Rifle is worthless, what game are you playing?

  • 10.06.2009 8:29 PM PDT

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Bring it back identical to the Halo 1 Pistol but as a 5SK instead of a 3SK. I would like the AR and PR upgraded to actual midrange weapons (if fired slowly) with added scopes.

  • 10.06.2009 8:32 PM PDT

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To make the Carbine different than the new BR:

BR
5 shots to kill (head), 10 shots to kill (body)
overpenetration like sniper

Carbine
3 shots to kill (head), 12 shots to kill (body)
stun on bodyshots

  • 10.06.2009 8:38 PM PDT
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Not only is latency annoying with burst fire weapons, but so is their cheapness. How hard is it to get a headshot with a BR when you can just swipe your shot? Sure, four shotting means you have to land them all, but at any distance beyond close/mid, it's up to a little bit of luck anyway with the randomized bullets. When it comes down to it, the BR is a cheap, random weapon. I'm in favor of the carbine, if they kicked up the accuracy a little. They should tone the BR down and not have burst fire weapons be headshot capable.

That being said, I don't think the H1 pistol is good. It kills too fast. I'd be much more in favor of say a 7 shot, single shot weapon like the carbine. That means you have to land a lot of shots (not just 3 like in H1), but you can do it pretty quickly because it's ROF is as fast as you pull a trigger. This means that skill is determined by both aiming ability and your ability to quickly pull the trigger.

So my answer to your question is both yes and no.

Oh, they could also make the head and body count as different damage, but as it is, body shots are the same as headshots until the shields go down.

[Edited on 10.06.2009 8:42 PM PDT]

  • 10.06.2009 8:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: cyther 2
like the br but not as overpowered
good thinkin


Lol the original pistol took 3 shots to kill. I got out pistoled every time i used the br in halo: CE

  • 10.06.2009 8:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: cyther 2
like the br but not as overpowered
good thinkin


Lol the original pistol took 3 shots to kill. I got out pistoled every time i used the br in halo: CE


There was a BR in Halo: CE?

  • 10.06.2009 9:03 PM PDT

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ODST definately hand the best gameplay since Halo CE, but it was a little short and most of the cinematics were sub-par.

  • 10.06.2009 9:05 PM PDT
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I feel that people will be remotely happy as long as they have some form of a medium-long ranged weapon that kill kill an unshielded enemy with a single head-shot. There are some out there that live solely for the Battle Rifle, but if another gun can get the job done, I am all for it. Now, as for re-skinning the Halo: CE pistol as a rifle, I am not so sure. I would prefer that it remain a pistol for the mere sake of nostalgia.

  • 10.06.2009 9:09 PM PDT

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I disagreed only because I dont think that is what really matters.

People when they talk about Halo always talk about the Halo:CE pistol and so on and so forth. All this stuff about the weapons when to really improve the game you must change other things. I personally want to see more dynamic missions rather than run, shoot, kill, and repeat.

Build the suspense like when you first saw the Scarab in Halo 2. Moments that impress and awe the player.

  • 10.06.2009 9:15 PM PDT

Halo CE on the PC...the Br's considered an update...
since all the halo weapons are on the game
not just the original ones

  • 10.06.2009 9:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: xZell_Falconx
I disagreed only because I dont think that is what really matters.

People when they talk about Halo always talk about the Halo:CE pistol and so on and so forth. All this stuff about the weapons when to really improve the game you must change other things. I personally want to see more dynamic missions rather than run, shoot, kill, and repeat.

Build the suspense like when you first saw the Scarab in Halo 2. Moments that impress and awe the player.


Sorry but you have the wrong idea of this topic. It's not comparing games overall... It's simply comparing the single shot weapon with explosive rounds that Halo needs back in its arsenal.

  • 10.06.2009 9:36 PM PDT

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Hopefully they listen to the fans who mostly agree that ODST has the best gameplay since Halo 1 and utilize that. I wish ODST had a competitive multiplayer o[

  • 10.07.2009 7:30 PM PDT

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