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Posted by: SoupiestPuma
he said he wanted a long raged brute weapon make sure you know what you talking about before you post something incorect and embarese your self
The covenant functions in a caste system. This means that every race has a niche occupation that they really only have. In Halo 3, the grunts are the meat shields, the jackals are the marksmen, the drones are skirmishers, and the brutes are the close range combat brawlers.
As a species brutes would much rather get up close and personal than run away and snipe. What happens when they get their armor blown off? Do they retreat behind their shielded allies and provide cover fire from safety? Hell no. Those mothers charge you down and try to pimp slap you to death. Why should they bother sniping? They are strong as hell. Let the cowardly jackals hide far back and snipe people, the real manly brutes beat people to death with their ape fists.
This creates a realistic and believeable canon. Because in a caste system, there really aren't such a thing as generalists. It would seem odd for a grunt trying to engage you in close quarter combat, yes?
Posted by: goatman327
technically, there is no usable human knife, like the covie energy sword, the melee is just wacking people with a blunt object, not slicing em with a knife. so, i want the knife
A melee does 70 points of damage in Halo 3.
A melee with bladed weapons like the bruteshot and spiker do 72 points of damage in Halo 3.
These extra two points of damage only are significant in incredibly close melee beatdown calculations.
Spartans are so damn strong that the presence of a blade or not does not really matter when punching through a shield. So why would they carry such a narrow minded weapon as a knife that really only has one use when they can instead carry a gun that functions just as well?
Furthermore, would you like a knife in a fight? Or a knife that fires spikes, grenades, or functions like a shotgun? Because thats essentially what the Spiker, Bruteshot, and Mauler is. The niche of a knife is not special enough to include it's own weapon.
How is this different from the sword? The sword kills in one hit. It has a clearly defined and useful niche that none of the other weapons can match. That makes it much more useful than a gun that takes two hits to kill someone.
So what is the human analogue of the sword? The shotgun. Some of you might say "its not a melee weapon though", but you cannot argue that it is most effective at the same range as the sword, a range that I call "melee range". It makes sense. Would the UNSC mass produce a knife that is pretty much useless unless you are a hulking super soldier or would they mass produce a shotgun that can be used by everyone to great effect?
Posted by: SoupiestPuma
not the smg the emplased machine turret and also in the book the fall of reach they do NOT fight brutes and the first time the encounter brutes is the book that takes place between halo ce and halo 2 and they make a big point that it is the first time they encounter a brute so there is your proof smart guy
That is incorrect. None of the protagonists of Fall of Reach fought brutes until First Strike. There were a couple million marines on Reach. And many spartans that were unnamed and who's fates were never disclosed to the reader of the book. It is only assumed that they died, but the book never focused on each and everyone one of their view points. These loop holes allow for the possiblity of brutes in Reach.
You also failed to explain to me why there can't be brute weaponry in multiplayer either.
[Edited on 10.06.2009 7:34 PM PDT]