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Subject: ODST's Vs Spartans

Posted by: ACAce23
And ODST's are just plain awesome. Spartans can be better all they want, but that doesn't stop ODST's from being more awesome.

that is not a valid argument.

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Posted by: ACAce23
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um considering Master chief beat the pulp outa 3 ODST marines when he was only 14 and didn't have his armor or anything like that it's obvious a fully developed spartan would destroy full squads of ODST marines.


Is that the only thing you guys regurgitate? This isn't based on ability, its based on awesome.

And this is part of the reason why they aren't awesome, because you treat them like lab rats, "fully developed".


i dont find teammates that die like flies in campaign that awesome.

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Posted by: MongrelShadow14
in a battle the spartans would win. but only because of there armor. they do the same missions. i think ODSTS are better because both spartans and ODSTS have done difficult things but ODSTS with out the unfair advantages like the radar they do this -blam!- on freaking will power. and reading this thread enough with the master chief this is about spartans and ODSTS in general the master chief character was ment to be badass impossible soldier not every freaking spartan can pull those stunts. they might be faster and a tad stronger but every human has push and break molments so in a battle versus spartans an ODST could meet an adrenaline rush and pull off amazing things. if you looked at the first halo legends the baby sitter how the spartan died from a hammer to the head spartans can be defeated. oh and how it took like 4 ODSTS to take down that one chieftan in halo odst isnt always the case 1 odst could take a chieftan down if it wasnt dropped on them like that. my point being both spartans and odsts if the opposing team gets a good drop on them can lose. so my favor is for the odsts all the badass with out any radar or help like a spartan.
ODSTs get radars...

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Posted by: MichaelYEAHH
Posted by: ACAce23
And ODST's are just plain awesome. Spartans can be better all they want, but that doesn't stop ODST's from being more awesome.

that is not a valid argument.


Of course not, because i'm not taking sides based on ability there.

But its valid in terms of preference, which is what this thread is about, right?

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Posted by: ACAce23
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um considering Master chief beat the pulp outa 3 ODST marines when he was only 14 and didn't have his armor or anything like that it's obvious a fully developed spartan would destroy full squads of ODST marines.


Is that the only thing you guys regurgitate? This isn't based on ability, its based on awesome.

And this is part of the reason why they aren't awesome, because you treat them like lab rats, "fully developed".


i dont find teammates that die like flies in campaign that awesome.


Now you're moving into the game world. If this was based entirely on what happens in the game then ODST's would = SPARTANs (taking into account the player in H3 ODST).

In terms of reliability in game as NPC's go, Johnson > Elites > ODST's > Marines

[Edited on 02.06.2010 6:26 PM PST]

  • 02.06.2010 6:20 PM PDT

Spartan with ODST helmet variant. Problem solved.

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You can't listen to Halo Wars on this, obviously the spartans are the better soldiers. Also in the Fall of Reach Master Chief as a teenager kills 3 ODST in a gym in just a friendly fight (sought of, without even trying) so I think a spartan will be able to win a fight against ODST any day.

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Posted by: The Tashman9
Spartan with ODST helmet variant. Problem solved.


But then they have the chest piece that looks like a metal bra.

  • 02.06.2010 10:19 PM PDT

Herping your derp.

Its granted that Spartans are superior to ODSTs. Point being, they're tanks. Imagine the Tank from Left 4 Dead, inside of that nut-shell armor, constantly being injected with steroids and testosterone and dual-wielding heavy machine guns.

However, the ODST group? Better armor wise (looks and not thickness,) better personality wise, and overall, they're just bad-ass.

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Pretty sure Spartans would steak the ODST's.

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Spartans with all of their enhancers and such and combat skills would take even a whole troop of ODST's out.

  • 02.07.2010 1:29 AM PDT

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Honestly they have about the same amount of training. Spartans are no more skilled than an ODST. The armor they wear however gives them a huge advantage over an ODST. With out the armor they are no better soldiers than the rest of humanity.


If I'm not mistaken, Spartan II candidate training lasted about 11 years. I'm pretty sure ODST training isn't 11 years long.

Yea. And as far as I know, the only people accepted to the spartan training program were individuals way stronger and intelligent than an average human.

[Edited on 02.07.2010 3:31 AM PST]

  • 02.07.2010 3:30 AM PDT

it all really depends because ODSTs would win in the darck well because all the spartans have are a little flashlight when ODSTs have vission enhancers. Spartans would win when theirs light out because there stronger

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spartans may not have technologically enhanced vision but the augmentations made to them gave them pretty much natural night vision so they do need anything to enhance their vision so in the dark ODST's would still lose

[Edited on 02.08.2010 9:32 AM PST]

  • 02.08.2010 9:32 AM PDT

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Ok, so; Spartans WHERE geneticaly enhanced (how the hell do they take on full covenant armarders on their own?).

  • 02.08.2010 12:26 PM PDT

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Did anyone notice that odst's seem to run faster when holding a heavy turret...that's messed up the spartans are stronger yet the walk with a turret and an odst a normal human runs...

  • 02.08.2010 5:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: elitebrawler133
Did anyone notice that odst's seem to run faster when holding a heavy turret...that's messed up the spartans are stronger yet the walk with a turret and an odst a normal human runs...

This is probably due to the fact that spartans don't give one S*it if they live or die as long as the mission gets done, whhile an odst runs. Of coarse that's the human thing to do when you value your life.

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I find it strange that half the ppl who scream for Sparta have ODST avitars, Bnet at its finest lol.

ODST ZOMG FTW

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spartans are supersoldiers basicly and the odst are pretty much your regular mariens with with odst and all....the spartan soldier was injected with titaniam bone marrow for the fact that their armor was so heavy if you put it on a regular soldier it would kill hime with all the weight it has crushing the guys bones instantly...spartans have titanium bones so....SPARTANS WIN

  • 02.16.2010 6:13 AM PDT

I really don't see why their is a debate.
John-117 easily took down 3 fully trained ODST without armor on, in hand to hand combat, with neither of them having previous intelligence on the other. So unless the ODST outnumber Spartans at least 5 to 1 their is no battle just a slaughter.

  • 02.16.2010 6:28 AM PDT

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You seem a little bit grumpy, good sir.

  • 02.16.2010 7:24 AM PDT

Stupid ass washing machine...

Wow, tough call. I mean, SPARTANs are obviously played up to be these amazing, super-hero-type characters who can save the day with minimal casualties and what's more, in style. But in reality, it was a much, much darker prospect, with almost all of the SPARTANs KIA, and ONI having to create an elaborate cover-up for the sole reason that should it become common knowledge that these near-heavenly men and women, these heroes, were mere mortal men, just clad in armor and a little bit faster, a little bit stronger than the average soldier.

Indeed, through the books we learn that a large majority of the UNSC's forces knew what the SPARTANs had gone through to get where they were and were utterly sickened by it, the prospect of being kidnapped at an early age, trained to breaking point, and then mutated into, what? A freak? The truth behind the legend was not so pretty.

The ODSTs however, while mere mortal men, have been trained more or less under the same circumstances as a SPARTAN. I mean, let's think, in the books when the SPARTANs, as average human children, were given orders to carry out ambushes and capture Rebel leaders, they weren't entirely that special. Going through the horrors of being a Marine, the extensive training of the ODSTs and god-knows what combat experience, it is clear that the ODSTs and Marines played a far more important role than one SPARTAN who won't dare look back for fear of his past.

So, while they are pretty much neck-and-neck, I believe the ODSTs win out on this won. Plus, Dutch's armor rules =3

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ODST = Really badass marine in cool armor

SPARTAN = Epitome of advanced human technology and research gained through centuries of wars leading to an ultimate being who can harness a shield-powered armor that weighs a ton and enhances their already enhanced enhanced-combat abilities...enhanced enhanced.

SPARTAN wins

  • 04.05.2010 2:08 AM PDT

i think that this would be a awesome battle, and it would be a close one, but i would have to give it to the Spartan because he is the best of the best and on a one on one he would kick ODSTs asre but if it was a team of ODSTs vs a Spartan then i would say the ODST, so it does depend but then it would now be up to Bungie to actually make a game type and see who will be victorious in this battle to the death!!

  • 04.15.2010 4:19 PM PDT

Ok, I don't mean to be a dick or anything. But seriously, look at the Halo Legends DVD;

Spartans:

1. Better shields
2. Better Armor
3. Genetically enhance from early childhood
4. Faster, Physically and mind wise (this applies to 5 and 6 as well)
5. Stronger
6. Smarter, (and in sooo many ways)
7. Durable
8. Just epic and
9. (now I'm going to be a dick) DUAL WIELDING!!!

ODSTs:

1. Braver (tough stuff to be doing what they do in the armor they have)
2. Better related to regular people( thats if you take the game too seriously.)
3. Silenced pistols and SMG(because they are awesome)
4. 3 grenades of each(seriously,,, THREE!!!)
5. Smart, but not smart asses, in the battlefield? Definitely a good thing.

Overall, I favor the Spartans, if it was a personality contest, I don't think the chief would have a smooth time there. But when it comes to combat ODSts are better left at their own level.

(dick mode)

How many Spartans does it take to take out a Brute Captain with a Hammer?,,,, was that a 1? Ol.

How many ODSTs does it take to take out the same thing?,,,, Better question, since when did you see a SINGLE ODST take out a Brute Captain with a Hammer and it wasn't you playing..... Don't worry I'll wait,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the answer iiiiisssss= Not never.

  • 04.15.2010 5:42 PM PDT

Michael Miller

dude read the fall of reach it shows how beast the spartans are compared to the odst's at one part john not knowing his own strength killed 4 odst's because he is trained to kill targets that are trying to harm him and complete the mission

  • 04.15.2010 6:56 PM PDT