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Posted by: Chrislol
The point is, the Spartan whooped on the ODST. John 117 wears armour that weighs 900 pounds and can STILL jump higher than an ODST and run fast. Imagine if you were to take that armour off of him, then how fast could he run and how high could he jump? But, only to be fair, you take away the VISR from and ODST and place him against a Spartan with now armour, the clear winner would still be a Spartan.
No point in arguing with the blind. However their armor doesnt weigh 900 pounds. Average weight of an augmented male Spartan-II outside of armor is about 300-350 pounds. Total weight inside the armor ~1000 pounds. Difference of 700-600 pounds.
And the armor enhances their speed slightly as well as their jumping abilities due to mechanical assistance. With out the armor they are significantly weaker and are unable to sustain higher speeds.
Learn about the armor before posting on it. It is clearly described on pages 114 and 115 of The Fall of Reach. As that is the Mark IV version a slightly updated spec description is provided on between pages 249 and 253 of The Fall of Reach. That describes the added shield systems as well as the function of the AI memory-processor super-conductor material.
Posted by: Spartan 2672
I CHECKED THE PAGE AND YOU LIED!!!!!
Oh and before I forget check spelling before submitting your post, ok? Thank youu!!<3
1: My spelling for the most part is just fine. It is perfectly readable. If you want to nitpick then I could tell you to learn how to spell as the word "you" doesn't have two "u"'s in it. Get over it.
2: I did not lie. I will quote:
The Fall of Reach page 73, paragraph 11:
""Your Spartans can run at bursts of up to fifty-five KPH," he explained."
Note the word "burst" in that sentence. It means they dont run at a constant 55KPH. Think of Olympic sprinters. They do a short burst of 20MPH to make it to the finish line first, they cant sustain that over distance.
Posted by: Spartan 2672
Spartan>ODST
But Luv em both!!
Inside armor a Spartan is superior, outside I say an ODST is superior in a one on one fight. However I still prefer ODSTs as they are able to accomplish the same objectives with out augmentations or super advanced "fancy armor".
Posted by: Spartan 2672
Check that page you referenced boi! could you kick a person and make him land 8ft away? Iunno...that seems unlikely
Depends on what he is wearing, if it is a standing kick and where I kick the person. Physicly it is more than possable for me to do such a thing. It is possable for most humans actually. Given the set of conditions I have laid out in this paragraph.
Posted by: Nextar_ A12
Wow..... Did you even read the books, yes they were Genetically enhanced (EDIT: I am sorry, they were not Genetically enhanced, they were physically Augmented to artificially introduce hormones that make them quickly and painfully go through puberty and give them better reaction times,)
Finally somebody gets it. Genetic manipulation involves physicly rewriting the DNA strands that make up a humans base structure. That changes them on a fundimental level. As this does not happen to the Spartan-IIs they can not have been geneticly manipulated.
Spartan-IIIs however could fall into that catagory with the new chemicals introduced into their augmentation process. However that is a mutation, not a manipulation. Close but not there yet.
Posted by: Nextar_ A12
, but they were also selected for that genetic marker, but millions don't have it, they have to be specific age, 5-7, and considering only 250 fit in that criteria, out of about 10+ planets each with billions of inhabitants, makes them all pretty special.
Yes they do have to be in a certain age group. However we are talking about a Galactic Sector wide empire which composes of up to 800 colonies (by wars end) and atleast one hundred billion citizens. Odds are you are going to find a few million people who have that spesific pronounced genetic marker, but doing such a study takes time and money. Both of which the Spartan-II program did not have.
1: Can you think of the amount of money it would take to survey every human on planet Earth for a single genetic marker? We currently have over 6.75 billion humans living on Earth right now. 500+ years in the future dont you think the population of humans would rise????
In any case lets say it took $5 dollers to do this genetic survey (includes equipement, personel and locations for the sake of argument) per person. Thats 5 8 6.75 billion. That comes out to be $33.75 billion. Let me stretch that number out for you: 33,750,000,000 dollers.
Thats alot of money going into just researching 6.75 billion people.
Posted by: Nextar_ A12
On topic. Considering Spartans have a distinct advantage, their MJOLNIR armor systems, In my opinion:
one on one combat, Spartan
Without their Mjolnir, one on one, Spartan
A squad of ODSTs (5) vs one Spartan, Spartan
A squad of ODSTs (5) vs one unarmored Spartan, 50/50
Those are influenced by random chance. Yes I will take a Spartan-II any day in there armor as they are superior.
Out side of armor a Spartan is just as vunerable as an ODST to physical punishment. Their bones may be tougher but their organs are just as soft as ever. You can crush the kidneys, stop the heart, blind them, choke them, break their spinal cord, numb limbs...ect.
With knowledge against their foes an ODST can adapt to higher speeds, strength...ect.
I wont bother with your other two opinions as I really dont need to get into that. But decent opinions.
Posted by: Nextar_ A12
As you can see by my opinion, an Odst can only win by having a large numerical advantage over the Spartans.
Yes I do see that, however I disagree with it. I have provided evidence and opinions to back myself up. Have given reasonable theories for training backgrounds and realistic training methods.
If you disagree with me fine, but dont call me a lier (this is to all of you). I havent lied once on this entire thread, as well as for every thread I have made. Keep your accusations to yourselves next time.