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Subject: BR change that would make everyone happy

Posted by: Yes it Was

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The weapons are fine for campaign IMO.

The only adjustments I'd like to see made for Halo: Reach would be in matchmaking. I'd like to see it look something like this for the purpose of balance.

Note: Ranked/Social playlists undetermined.

-EXAMPLE-

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TEAM GAMES---------------------------
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-TEAM SLAYER (BRs Totally Removed)
-TEAM SLAYER BRs (BR Starts)
-TEAM FIREFIGHT (Ranked)
-TEAM FIREFIGHT (Unranked)
-TEAM SNIPERS (Unchanged)
-TEAM SWAT (Unchanged, but NO ELITES lol)
-TEAM OBJECTIVE (BRs Totally Removed)
-SQUAD BATTLE (Unchanged)
-BIG TEAM BATTLE (Unchanged)
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FREE FOR ALL-------------------------
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-LONE WOLVES (BRs totally removed)
-LONE WOLVES BRs (BR Starts)
-RUMBLE PIT (Unchanged)

[Edited on 10.08.2009 1:02 AM PDT]

  • 10.08.2009 12:59 AM PDT
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f0ck bungie

I would rather see more weapons be able to head shot. If the Ar could headshot you wouldn't need to beat down for half the Ar kills. If the Smg could head shot l'd use it alot due to its range and clip size. Heck it would make the plasma rifle pretty hard to deal with if it could head shot.
Either way its not a big deal. I'll use the B.R. in Halo 3. It is the best gun in the game over all. If you don't want to use it be prepared to die alot. But even thats not a big deal cause its a game.

  • 10.08.2009 1:02 AM PDT
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OKai guys i know whats gonna be your solvng for this story its that th br stays ant the other guy dies thats it noob BR ROCKS and other wepons Sucks Unless *SPLAZER*

  • 10.08.2009 4:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: WeirdCalvinnnn
OKai guys i know whats gonna be your solvng for this story its that th br stays ant the other guy dies thats it noob BR ROCKS and other wepons Sucks Unless *SPLAZER*
Eh what? O_o

  • 10.08.2009 5:04 AM PDT

You'll never know until you try~

BOO-YAH!

it would be pointless to try and balance the other weapons just so the BR could stay... BR's are too over powerful and there's nothing else to it, thats why they took it out of ODST because IT'S NOT WORTH ALL THE WORK OF FIXING!

  • 10.08.2009 5:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: RELLIK PIR


Sorry but most bad kids follow the good ones and a game without a Utility weapon will chase away the entire MLG population and even if we are small all the people that will follow us because we are awesome isn't.


Care to try to explain to me how ODST is so popular then? Even with halo 3 being out, ODST has numbers comparable to Halo 3. Nice try but you shouldn't state your opinions as facts.

  • 10.08.2009 5:48 AM PDT

Posted by: TMNT4 Jacksta
i love it it is the best map on halo 3 me and my bro we -blam!- every wone we wone by 61 becaues they fill to thier death becuse we wore bitting thim. and if you hate it you mast be bad............

The thing most people don't realize for some reason, and they can't get the concept into their tiny brain, is that the BR is not overpowered in Halo 3. If you start everyone out with a BR, the good players who can actually aim, will kill everyone and the bad players will die alot more. However over time after learning to aim the bad players will become good and then they can contend with the other good players. In the Halo 3 system right now you can start with an Assault Rifle which you don't have to aim for the head and you can go around spraying and praying and getting kills. If everyone had BR starts, over time you would end up with everyone having an amount of skill and then I wouldn't have to complain when some tard goes -20 on my team.

  • 10.08.2009 5:59 AM PDT
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"You must be mistaken, Reclaimer. I've met your makers, and they don't even know your name..."

Posted by: RELLIK PIR
Halo reach without a BR or like weapon. FLOP.

Sorry but most bad kids follow the good ones and a game without a Utility weapon will chase away the entire MLG population.


I always have a good chuckle when this it the argument. Halo has MILLIONS of individual fans. MLG players who would quit simply because one weapon was gone probably accounts for around 5% of them, being extremely generous. The "MLG Community" doesn't have a majority vote here. It's about gameplay balance.

  • 10.08.2009 5:59 AM PDT

Posted by: TMNT4 Jacksta
i love it it is the best map on halo 3 me and my bro we -blam!- every wone we wone by 61 becaues they fill to thier death becuse we wore bitting thim. and if you hate it you mast be bad............

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Posted by: RELLIK PIR
Halo reach without a BR or like weapon. FLOP.

Sorry but most bad kids follow the good ones and a game without a Utility weapon will chase away the entire MLG population.


I always have a good chuckle when this it the argument. Halo has MILLIONS of individual fans. MLG players who would quit simply because one weapon was gone probably accounts for around 5% of them, being extremely generous. The "MLG Community" doesn't have a majority vote here. It's about gameplay balance.


Nerfing the BR completely? GOOD JOB BALANCING BUNGIE. The MLG community DOES have a vote because the only reason people kept playing Halo 2 so long after other games had already came out is because MLG kept it popular. The same with CE in the fact that people hosted LAN parties because of MLG.

  • 10.08.2009 6:01 AM PDT
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"You must be mistaken, Reclaimer. I've met your makers, and they don't even know your name..."

Gameplay balance as in "Let's fix the one weapon that is more broken then all the others". Not gameplay balance as in whatever you were talking about. I never said they DON'T have a vote, I said it's a SMALL one. Bungie is a game dev. They will make games the majority of people want to play. MLG is not the majority. Ergo, they will not tailor their games to MLG.

  • 10.08.2009 6:03 AM PDT

Posted by: TMNT4 Jacksta
i love it it is the best map on halo 3 me and my bro we -blam!- every wone we wone by 61 becaues they fill to thier death becuse we wore bitting thim. and if you hate it you mast be bad............

Posted by: Gho5t Mach1ne
The weapons are fine for campaign IMO.

The only adjustments I'd like to see made for Halo: Reach would be in matchmaking. I'd like to see it look something like this for the purpose of balance.

Note: Ranked/Social playlists undetermined.

-EXAMPLE-

=====================================
TEAM GAMES---------------------------
=====================================
-TEAM SLAYER (BRs Totally Removed)
-TEAM SLAYER BRs (BR Starts)
-TEAM FIREFIGHT (Ranked)
-TEAM FIREFIGHT (Unranked)
-TEAM SNIPERS (Unchanged)
-TEAM SWAT (Unchanged, but NO ELITES lol)
-TEAM OBJECTIVE (BRs Totally Removed)
-SQUAD BATTLE (Unchanged)
-BIG TEAM BATTLE (Unchanged)
=====================================
FREE FOR ALL-------------------------
=====================================
-LONE WOLVES (BRs totally removed)
-LONE WOLVES BRs (BR Starts)
-RUMBLE PIT (Unchanged)


BRs totally removed from Objective? You best be -blam!- trolling. What happens when you spawn and the other team is running across the map with your flag? You're supposed to Assault Rifle them? Get the -blam!- out of here you don't even belong on bungie.net let alone this earth.

  • 10.08.2009 6:05 AM PDT

Posted by: TMNT4 Jacksta
i love it it is the best map on halo 3 me and my bro we -blam!- every wone we wone by 61 becaues they fill to thier death becuse we wore bitting thim. and if you hate it you mast be bad............

Posted by: Panzeereapa
Gameplay balance as in "Let's fix the one weapon that is more broken then all the others". Not gameplay balance as in whatever you were talking about. I never said they DON'T have a vote, I said it's a SMALL one. Bungie is a game dev. They will make games the majority of people want to play. MLG is not the majority. Ergo, they will not tailor their games to MLG.


That's funny seeing as Bungie meets with MLG and goes to events to get feedback and advice on what should be in their new games. Funny how the Assault Rifle wasn't in Halo 2 and the "majority" was FINE WITH IT, yet now that it's back in the game, people complain about the BR. No one complained about the pistol in Halo CE when the assault rifle was in that game. I didn't realize Halo 3 was the prize for the 2007 special olympics.

  • 10.08.2009 6:09 AM PDT

Strike first, strike hard, no mercy

You need a mid to long range weapon that is common on the map like the br. That would make the sniper overpowered. They have to have the br or a weapon like it. Imagine a guy on Valhalla with a sniper rifle who can aim well you think you could kill him with an AR, not likely.

  • 10.08.2009 7:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: RELLIK PIR
Come on at least get a 40+ to agree with you. Otherwise this really is a debate between people who can't play the game well and people that can.



I have read extensively over this thread. Your comments are laughable, particularly this one.
And, please, quit going back to your stupid rank based
"arguments".





It is funny I mean busting my sides out laughing looking at all the stars and bars going I hate the Br. I get owned a lot. I can't get a 40. Waaaaaaaa

That is all I see.

It makes way more sense to upgrade a bunch of weak worthless weapons than to bring the one useful weapon down. It is like you want to destroy Halo forever. If they launched without a solid multipurpose weapon the game would do well because it is halo when stop. Everyone would go. wow this is lame I am going to go back to MW2 or some other sequel with multiplayer launching bioshock 2 and Crackdown 2. I love this game because of the medium/fast pace and the fundemental gameplay. Without those I won't buy the game and will tell everyone I know not to. If the Beta Sucks as much as I worry I'll buy other games and never look back.



Seriously? You would remove the main portion of my argument and take a worthless meaning out of it...

I call troll.




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  • 10.08.2009 8:58 AM PDT

Heart... Felt... Expletive.

I'm disgusted with the BR because it is a very unbalanced weapon. The physics in the Halo games make no sense to me. For example: A Spartan can survive 30 spikes from the Brute Spike Rifle, but cannot survive one head shot from the Battle Rifle.

That alone seems like a reason to re-fit the BR.
I swear, all the noobs want are the Battle Rifle and frag grenades in matchmaking, and that is there solution to balancing the game.

They should do to Reach as they did to ODST, remove the BR.
And the title of this subject "BR Change", your not proposing to change the BR, you want to build a whole Halo game based on one overrated weapon.

And what you don't seem to understand is that ODST is a disk based expansion to Halo 3, that is the same case with Reach.
If you don't like ODST, don't bank on Reach being any better.

[Edited on 10.08.2009 9:33 AM PDT]

  • 10.08.2009 9:30 AM PDT

Posted by: RELLIK PIR

It is funny I mean busting my sides out laughing looking at all the stars and bars going I hate the Br. I get owned a lot. I can't get a 40. Waaaaaaaa


Its not I can't get a 40+ its more like I can't be arsed to get 40+ just to impress some idiot like you I'd rather play Left4Dead.

  • 10.08.2009 10:12 AM PDT

Posted by: RELLIK PIR
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Posted by: RELLIK PIR

It is funny I mean busting my sides out laughing looking at all the stars and bars going I hate the Br. I get owned a lot. I can't get a 40. Waaaaaaaa


Its not I can't get a 40+ its more like I can't be arsed to get 40+ just to impress some idiot like you I'd rather play Left4Dead.


You don't even play this game at all. Why are you here?

My Gamertag is on my friends list with the correct spelling.

  • 10.08.2009 10:26 AM PDT

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Posted by: SweetTRIX

The thing that you and several others seem to miss is that even though way too OP for a pistol, the CE Mag was balanced with the other Halo CE weapons. I will happily agree that dual weilding nerfed a lot of the associated weapons, but that does not take away from the fact that most weapons in the current set are rendered useless by the BR.

Insult me all you want, harp on rank all you want, anyone that knows what balance actually is will agree that the BR in it's current form is not balanced, and most would agree that it makes more sense to redisign a single weapon then it does to redo all of them.

Then again, I hope for a completely different weapon set in Reach anyway, with a midrange weapon that actually stays strong in the mid, and not everywhere else.


Ok I'll address your rofl points in order

You just called the HCE pistol Balanced and it was more overpowered than the BR. The rest of the weapons just got a super giant stupid nerf and a lose of creativity. So they just need to upgrade the other weapons back to the way HALO way designed. You keep saying I am wrong but saying I am right. Make up your mind.

Hey your the one that keeps saying the BR was the only weapon people could rely on. Which is false and you just don't want to admit fault. How the hell do you know what balance is better. No one uses the rest of the weapon set and if you forced them they would stop playing the game. So it would make worlds more sense to balance the weapons to the BR. This game is to slow already and if the BR went it would be nothing but a running away fest then they would eventually charge in and SPM spray pray melee

To clarify for your Non gamers, Powerful medium range/multipurpose weapons increase gameplay speed because people die faster. Without a BR like weapon this game would crawl to a dead stop.
Gameplay is already way slower than HCE and H2

If it was a completely different weapon set we might as well go play a different game entirely. If that is what you want go there please.
It is impossible to have a pure midrange. If you can't understand that you clearly have NO RIGHT to talk about how a game funtions. It is either a multipurpose weapon or it doesn't exist. A medium range weapon to a scrub like you is a all range weapon to a skilled player.

Stop all of you should stop embarrassing yourselves.


That's you addressing my points, with incoherent crap that doesn't even address what I said? I have never agreed with your POV on this, my mind is made up. I've never once complained about the BR as a mid-range weapon, i've complained about it's imbalance because it is highly functional outside of mid-range, it's the only weapon that is consistently functional outside of it's intended scope.

You consistently speak about "non-gamers" and low ranking players not knowing what they are talking about, yet with nearly every post you put up here you clarify that you know shockingly little about this game and how it is played.

Your little theory on midrange weapons is laughable at best. The carbine is a very effective midrange weapon, and while it can be used in closer ranges, it's nature as a single shot hampers it's use up close. The very nature of the BR and it's burst fire makes it far too easy to use in the closer ranges.

Do me a favor, unless your going to actually read what people are saying about this topic, and actually argue their points, just stop responding.

  • 10.08.2009 10:27 AM PDT

Okay, first of all, everyone in this -blam!- thread needs to stop misspelling "you're".

Other than that, -blam!- your H2 and H3 weapon sets. ODST is the closest thing we've got to H1 - no duels, pistol makes a triumphant return, health system works like H1, grenades can be thrown a decent distance again, fall damage and crouch-landing to cancel said fall damage is back, and probably some other stuff I can't think of right now. And it's all awesome.

If Reach has the same weapon set and plays exactly like ODST, I'll be a very happy person.

  • 10.08.2009 11:12 AM PDT
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Btw - polls on bungie.net mean absolutely nothing, so please don't use them to try and prove some kind of point.

~Achronos

The best thing you said was "separate playlists for different niches". bungie has this to an extent but I think they could refine it more. You have the MLG playlist for all your BR fun, why does it matter?

  • 10.08.2009 11:38 AM PDT