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Subject: What weapons do you think DON'T need to be changed? (Excluding ...

(Excluding AR/BR)

There are a lot of balancing issues and certain people think some of the underused weapons need to be changed.

I think that SMGs work really well if you burst fire (I use single wield) but because they are underused people assume they are less powerful.

What do you think?

[Edited on 10.08.2009 3:49 AM PDT]

  • 10.08.2009 3:47 AM PDT

I think the SMG needs a serious accuracy boost. I know it's an SMG, but the SMG's today can shoot about 10x farther than one 500+ years in the future.

Spartan Laser needs to be nerfed for this game to fit the time frame. Maybe only 2 shots per Spartan Laser?

But I think the Rocket Launcher is a good power weapon. Not too overpowered because it's limited in shots especially the ones in matchmaking.

[Edited on 10.08.2009 3:59 AM PDT]

  • 10.08.2009 3:57 AM PDT

Posted by: WAR HOROR13
I think the SMG needs a serious accuracy boost. I know it's an SMG, but the SMG's today can shoot about 10x farther than one 500+ years in the future.

Spartan Laser needs to be nerfed for this game to fit the time frame. Maybe only 2 shots per Spartan Laser?

But I think the Rocket Launcher is a good power weapon. Not too overpowered because it's limited in shots especially the ones in matchmaking.


The SMG could be changed for realism but gameplay wise it works fine.

I agree Spartan laser needs to be nerfed.

I also agree that Rocket launcher is fine. If they brought back lock-on that would be terrible.

[Edited on 10.08.2009 4:33 AM PDT]

  • 10.08.2009 4:33 AM PDT

The spartan laser is fine imo, but duel wielding in general needs to go.

  • 10.08.2009 4:34 AM PDT

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I dont see how the spartan laser should be nerfed.
In campain not for obvious reasons. It is awesome to storm a covenant stronghold and kick some ass.
And in multiplayer...I still dont think so.

The laser is harder to use then a sniper on people.
And for vehicles... Well why not have an anti vehicle weapon.
we have sniper (anti people :P)

I rather see the BR get a nerve. Its the weapong of choise always. Not saying BR sucks. But gameplay wise it would be itnresting to see it get nerved.

  • 10.08.2009 4:36 AM PDT

Posted by CivilTugBoat: duel wielding in general needs to go.
Agreed but as I said Halo 3 SMG works fine single wielded.

[Edited on 10.08.2009 4:40 AM PDT]

  • 10.08.2009 4:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: Geoxbreather
The laser is harder to use then a sniper on people.
And for vehicles... Well why not have an anti vehicle weapon.
we have sniper (anti people :P)


The laser and rockets are anti-vehicle, as well as anti everything !!!

We need less new weapons and the existing weapons to be refined....less is more !

  • 10.08.2009 4:38 AM PDT

Posted by: Geoxbreather
I dont see how the spartan laser should be nerfed.
In campain not for obvious reasons. It is awesome to storm a covenant stronghold and kick some ass.
And in multiplayer...I still dont think so.

The laser is harder to use then a sniper on people.
And for vehicles... Well why not have an anti vehicle weapon.
we have sniper (anti people :P)

I rather see the BR get a nerve. Its the weapong of choise always. Not saying BR sucks. But gameplay wise it would be itnresting to see it get nerved.


Spartan Laser absolutely kills vehicle gameplay. It needs to be nerfed a bit

  • 10.08.2009 4:42 AM PDT
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Weapons that don't need to be changed?

The Rocket Launcher - Fine imo. Rockets travel at an acceptable speed and am thankful that the homing ability was removed in Halo 3. Don't have a problem with this gun.

Missile Pod - Again, fine imo. Missiles track but aren't impossible to avoid, the beeping noise that you hear when you've been locked-on to is a big help too.

Plasma Pistol - Leaps and bounds better than its Halo 2 counterpart. A niche weapon, but useful when used properly.

Needler - This might come as a surprise, but I actually think that the Needler is pretty balanced. It's a powerful weapon, yes, but only when used properly. It's nearly useless if your target is moving from side to side.

Brute Shot - Again, don't have a problem with this weapon. Useful for both anti-infantry and anti-vehicle roles, but doesn't excel at them.

Flag/Bomb/Ball - Making your attacks a one-hit-kill seems like a fair tradeoff to not being able to fire your gun, imo. Though of course, this is something that you can enable/disable.

Sniper Rifle - Functions nearly perfectly. Four rounds in a clip, you get scoped out when shot at. Seems like a fair weapon to me.

Plasma/Frag Grenades - Fine as far as i'm concerned. I'd like the Spike Grenade to have a larger blast radius though, and i'd like to see the Firebombs actually put in to Matchmaking.

I also agree that the Laser needs to be nerfed and that dual wielding needs to be scrapped.

[Edited on 10.08.2009 4:50 AM PDT]

  • 10.08.2009 4:49 AM PDT
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it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: Pokeh
Plasma/Frag Grenades - Fine as far as i'm concerned. I'd like the Spike Grenade to have a larger blast radius though, and i'd like to see the Firebombs actually put in to Matchmaking.

I also agree that the Laser needs to be nerfed and that dual wielding needs to be scrapped.


I agree with spike grenades. It seems that their use is fairly limited and if you don't know how to use the directional blast, you will almost always end up using it as a sticky grenade. The firebombs are trash. The fire hardly does any damage since its limited to a really small radius and its only real use is also as a "sticky" grenade".

I like dual wielding only if they make the weapons either more powerful (they get like a 40% damage decrease when you dual them) and they make them less accurate.

The other problem i have is the Spiker/SMG. To me, its basically the same.

I also agree that the lazer needs to be nerfed. Maybe they should make it so that you cant aim as fast with it once you start charging it up. Just a thought but i guess that would only work against people with a high sensitivity.

  • 10.08.2009 4:59 AM PDT

Posted by: Pokeh
Weapons that don't need to be changed?

Needler - This might come as a surprise, but I actually think that the Needler is pretty balanced. It's a powerful weapon, yes, but only when used properly. It's nearly useless if your target is moving from side to side.

Yeah its much better than halo 1/2 needler.

  • 10.08.2009 8:24 AM PDT

most weapons are good but the BR needs a nerf and the pistol needs an upgrade

  • 10.08.2009 8:39 AM PDT
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the smg's are less powerful which is why you dual wield them.

  • 10.08.2009 8:40 AM PDT

Posted by: the n00b pwner
most weapons are good but the BR needs a nerf and the pistol needs an upgrade

I agree but I excluded the BR/AR because it would become yet another BR thread.

  • 10.08.2009 8:41 AM PDT

Posted by: bungieisbroken
the smg's are less powerful which is why you dual wield them.

SMG's work fine single wield, It can usually beat AR if you burst.

  • 10.08.2009 8:42 AM PDT

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Increase the effective kill range on the shotgun!

  • 10.08.2009 8:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: BTE

I also agree that the lazer needs to be nerfed. Maybe they should make it so that you cant aim as fast with it once you start charging it up. Just a thought but i guess that would only work against people with a high sensitivity.



maybe the slow aim isn't the way to go, but rather they drop down to about three/four shots with a longer charge time. that might work wouldn't it?

  • 10.08.2009 8:53 AM PDT

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Don't change the spiker...it is perfectly worthless as it is.

  • 10.08.2009 8:54 AM PDT

Posted by: notfromphoenix
Increase the effective kill range on the shotgun!

That would suck.. the shotgun is pissing o as it is..(campers are really irritating) so im hoping the shotgun stays the way it is..

  • 10.08.2009 9:56 AM PDT

burte shots need to be stronger come on you have nades hitting you

  • 10.08.2009 9:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: WAR HOROR13
I think the SMG needs a serious accuracy boost. I know it's an SMG, but the SMG's today can shoot about 10x farther than one 500+ years in the future.

Spartan Laser needs to be nerfed for this game to fit the time frame. Maybe only 2 shots per Spartan Laser?

But I think the Rocket Launcher is a good power weapon. Not too overpowered because it's limited in shots especially the ones in matchmaking.


spartan laser is fine.

smg could do with some publicity.

rocket launcher is also fine.

i would like to see the halo 2 needler make a return. the magnum could be made eeeveer so slightly more powerful.

  • 10.08.2009 10:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: WAR HOROR13
I think the SMG needs a serious accuracy boost. I know it's an SMG, but the SMG's today can shoot about 10x farther than one 500+ years in the future.

Spartan Laser needs to be nerfed for this game to fit the time frame. Maybe only 2 shots per Spartan Laser?

But I think the Rocket Launcher is a good power weapon. Not too overpowered because it's limited in shots especially the ones in matchmaking.


spartan laser is fine.

smg could do with some publicity.

rocket launcher is also fine.

i would like to see the halo 2 needler make a return. the magnum could be made eeeveer so slightly more powerful.


Seriously the H3 needler is fine.

  • 10.08.2009 10:14 AM PDT

I think it is OK. I'd just put more power in Automag headshots (zoom option too) and create new weapons.

  • 10.08.2009 10:18 AM PDT

Vain

Nothing need's to be changed but it be nice to add fred's UNSC knife.

  • 10.08.2009 10:19 AM PDT

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