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Subject: A Solution to AR starts.

I'd like to be half-man half-tree in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Make the pistol a bit weaker, but have a scope similar to the BR's. That way, you can actually kill people from a farther range when you spawn. It also would help suppress spawnkilling. Keep the AR near what it is now, and make the BR a bit more accurate. Discuss.

  • 10.08.2009 5:02 PM PDT

the br doesnt need to be more accurate. that would make it more powerfull then it already is.

the ar needs more ammo, a lil bit more range, and more accuracy.

id like a scoped pistol to replace the br as long as its is ONLY EFFECTIVE IN THE MID RANGE.

  • 10.08.2009 5:05 PM PDT
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Paroday will be missed :(

September 27th 2009

Give AR 60 rounds and make it less powerfull, and boom it's fixed?????

  • 10.08.2009 5:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: That shotgun guy
Give AR 60 rounds and make it less powerfull, and boom it's fixed?????

Actually, it needs more power, but less acuracy. There, you have a great Assult Rifle. HAve fun with H1....i mean Halo reach.
EDIT: OP, the pistol Idea sounds like a rip from HCE, could this be the inspiration for you decition, because, if it is, then you, sir, are a geneus and deserve to be an honarary member of the communities grizzled acients.

[Edited on 10.08.2009 5:15 PM PDT]

  • 10.08.2009 5:13 PM PDT
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Btw - polls on bungie.net mean absolutely nothing, so please don't use them to try and prove some kind of point.

~Achronos

you should be able to pick up a visor upgrade for your suit in game that allows you to zoom on the pistol. They could even have copy stations in game where you can send the upgrade to your teammates. IF that person gets killed though all teammates lose the upgrade since there's only worked through blu tooth connection to the host's chip. Other chips can expand your radar radius, or completely shut down another persons.

  • 10.08.2009 5:23 PM PDT

Posted by: Dustinw1
Posted by: That shotgun guy
Give AR 60 rounds and make it less powerfull, and boom it's fixed?????

Actually, it needs more power, but less acuracy. There, you have a great Assult Rifle. HAve fun with H1....i mean Halo reach.
EDIT: OP, the pistol Idea sounds like a rip from HCE, could this be the inspiration for you decition, because, if it is, then you, sir, are a geneus and deserve to be an honarary member of the communities grizzled acients.


Well what would you expect? It takes place BEFORE the events of HCE.

  • 10.08.2009 5:37 PM PDT

"Dear Humanity; we regret being alien bastards. We regret coming to Earth. And we most definitely regret that the Corps just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!"
—Avery J. Johnson
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Posted by: X3202
Posted by: Dustinw1
Posted by: That shotgun guy
Give AR 60 rounds and make it less powerfull, and boom it's fixed?????

Actually, it needs more power, but less acuracy. There, you have a great Assult Rifle. HAve fun with H1....i mean Halo reach.
EDIT: OP, the pistol Idea sounds like a rip from HCE, could this be the inspiration for you decition, because, if it is, then you, sir, are a geneus and deserve to be an honarary member of the communities grizzled acients.


Well what would you expect? It takes place BEFORE the events of HCE.

I know, that is why i brought that up.

  • 10.08.2009 5:48 PM PDT

I am The Sapphire Knight

I think the AR should be made more accurate with the addition of a scope. We only need one starting weapon we don't need two. Someone with an AR should be able to fight back against a BR/Carbine/Scoped pistol the moment they spawn.

AR starts are a huge problem on a map like The Pit when the AR(in it's current form) can't get a kill at anything other then point-blank range. And when there are BR all over the place one lost firefight can result in one team grabbing all the BRs and slaughtering the other team as they spawn with their useless ARs.

The AR needs a scope to fight back at mid range(no headshots) so it doesn't get completely dominated by the BR/Carbine/Scoped pistol. This of course should be balanced out by recoil like the SMG in ODST.

  • 10.08.2009 6:34 PM PDT

I'm the cult of personality,
I call it like i see it, if i feel the need to be blunt and to the point, then i will, if i feel the need to be very detailed, i will, im here to stay and im here to do things my way, if you respect that or not is your choice, not mine,
and don't worry, while i don't agree with everyone's opinion, i do respect everyone's opinion.

why does everyone hate to AR? its a great weapon

  • 10.08.2009 6:36 PM PDT
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OP...no...GTFO...ARs are perfectly fine if you are still playing this game...

  • 10.08.2009 6:45 PM PDT

I am The Sapphire Knight

Here's my problem with the AR...
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/2/23/Firing_tab le.jpg

Look at the AR. Then Look at the SMG. Now look at the BR.

Anyone else see the problem I have with the AR? Hint:Look under max one-clip range.

[Edited on 10.08.2009 6:52 PM PDT]

  • 10.08.2009 6:52 PM PDT

I am The Sapphire Knight

There should definitely be only one starting weapon. There is no point in having two starter weapons. It only serves to divide the community like it is divided now.

  • 10.08.2009 11:54 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Deathtrap462
Make the pistol a bit weaker, but have a scope similar to the BR's. That way, you can actually kill people from a farther range when you spawn. It also would help suppress spawnkilling. Keep the AR near what it is now, and make the BR a bit more accurate. Discuss.

Actually the only GOOD way to fix AR starts is to weaken Melee to 3-4 Melee kill. This would make the AR Beatdown ALOT harder to do and less random. Also, Halo CE and 2 BOTH took 3 melees to kill and they were better for it.

  • 10.08.2009 11:57 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

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Posted by: WerepyreND
I think the AR should be made more accurate with the addition of a scope. We only need one starting weapon we don't need two. Someone with an AR should be able to fight back against a BR/Carbine/Scoped pistol the moment they spawn.

AR starts are a huge problem on a map like The Pit when the AR(in it's current form) can't get a kill at anything other then point-blank range. And when there are BR all over the place one lost firefight can result in one team grabbing all the BRs and slaughtering the other team as they spawn with their useless ARs.

The AR needs a scope to fight back at mid range(no headshots) so it doesn't get completely dominated by the BR/Carbine/Scoped pistol. This of course should be balanced out by recoil like the SMG in ODST.


NO AR STARTS. They should give the BR and AR 110% of the damage they do now, make the BR spread tighter, and throw in the ODST pistol (yes it has a 4x scope) as a 5 headshot kill. Throw in the ODST SMG (the 2x scope) and make it near silent. Your starting weapon would be the SMG, BR on large maps, and AR's would be a dominant yet versatile close range killing machine, not a nerf gun that you spam with. The pistols would be a great long range weapon to take on a BR with, but they wouldnt be a spawn weapon. The BR would be a 2-shot beatdown (with 110% damage) instead of the 3-shot beatdown it is now, making it more versatile as a spawn weapon for the larger maps. The SMG would be slightly less powerful than the ar is now, but as accurate as the BR is now when fired in bursts. It would then be a headshot burst weapon, working well with grenades, and a automatic, working well with beatdowns. It has the range to defend against a BR, and as a bonus it would be silenced. AR-lovers would find the AR quite a bit more effective than before, so you wouldnt always have to throw down a beatdown on top, and there would be 4 or so per map (plenty).

I must also mention that the reload times should be as fast as they are in ODST. Also, weapon change speeds should be reverted back to what they were in halo 2 or even less weapon change time. This is so that you can combo people, like use the AR to take down a shield then pop them in the head with a pistol or BR. It would add a whole new level of depth to the game.

Beatdown lunges should be the same, only you lunge much faster, so it is more intense. The sword lunge should also be reverted back to how it was in halo 2 (SERIOUSLY, IT IS INTENSE, YOU FLY AT THE GUY, ITS A RUSH), and you should be able to lunge as you pull the weapon out just as you could in halo 2. (the halo 2 sword lunge was dodgeable, making it balanced) Right now the sword is a total joke. I dont even bother picking it up.

Also, you should be able to shoot your gun while reloading (canceling out the reload), but at least letting you defend yourself (if there is ammo left in the clip). Weapon recoil should be adjusted.

Also, if someone beats you down you should be able to crouch out of it and the beatdown will miss (assuming you time it right). You should be able to drop your weapon and have 2 fists (so you can beat someone down really fast), its also cool for customs.

Also, if you are holding the control stick to the side and you crouch, nothing happens in halo 3, you can only crouch if the left joystick is upright. FIX THIS. I want to be able to throw in a crouch to my strafe.

Also, turn up the player acceleration just a tiny bit so that players can change direction a little quicker and strafe more effectively.

HAY EVARYONE LETS MAKE EVARYTHING YOU START WITH OVERPOWERED SO NOBODY PICKS UP THE OTHAR WEAPANZZZZ!!!1111!!!

  • 10.08.2009 11:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.

Hmm... I guess the ultimate solution would be to remove the AR. I wouldn't like that option, though.

  • 10.08.2009 11:59 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Bring in the ODST magnum.

It doesn't do -blam!- for damage but its accurate and gets headshots.

  • 10.09.2009 12:48 AM PDT
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Or just make it BR start =)

  • 10.09.2009 12:54 AM PDT

i say just add some range but dim the power
it may sound dumb because the AR is a CQC weapon
but it actually might calm the BR debate

im tired of everyone complaining about the BR
just add some range so the BR flame stops because most of the people who dislike are usally the ones who cant use
then they say its oped, MLG uses so it bad, it sucks because it the only weapons anyone uses. Hey bungie puts BRs on the map for you to replace your AR.

so using a weapon that is use to help me get more kills effectivlly is bad? LOL i think some people need to stop trying to use the AR againist the BR at a distance.

[Edited on 10.09.2009 1:11 AM PDT]

  • 10.09.2009 1:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
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Or just make it BR start =)
You know that won't happen, right?


and we dont know which weapon is in the game...
I hope theres is no AR too :D Bad weapon for newbs.

  • 10.09.2009 4:06 AM PDT
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Rip the scope off the BR, make it more powerful, but with a slightly smaller magazine, and you've got a good replacement for the AR.

You can put that ripped-off scope on the Magnum, while you're at it. Also, make it slightly weaker, but with a larger magazine size. It'd be a slightly more powerful version of the Automag.

  • 10.09.2009 4:38 AM PDT

You'll never know until you try~

BOO-YAH!

why do people keep saying weapons need to be changed? they seem fine to me

  • 10.09.2009 5:18 AM PDT

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