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In Halo 1 we have used the Covenants favorite weapons - Plasma Gun and Rifle. As we all know there is no bullets, but a power core. The power core was like a battery and when it was used up - the weapon was functionless. I read in the book with the game that "it was unknown how to re-place or re-charge a power core".

When I thought off that I thought that the Elites must have an advantage in Multiplayer (where we can be Elites). They must know how to replace og recharge those power cores.
Then chossing Elite would be better than chosing Spartans. Maybe power cores can NOT be recharged og replaced but what would be more realistic.

If we admit that power cores could be rechargable (Elites only) than Spartans must also have an advantage in Multiplayer with human weapons. I think that that would be more realistic, but i don't know how the two "races" would be equal with the same advantages.

Maybe it will be best if even Elites coulden't recharge the plasma weapons?
What do u think?

  • 07.25.2004 9:21 AM PDT
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thats a cool idea i think elites should take longer
reloading a human wep. like they fiddle with it
then hit and then firgure it out.

  • 07.25.2004 9:29 AM PDT

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People have made the assumption that there COULD be a difference with the races but Bungie <im pretty sure> confirmed that there would be no differences. People then speculated that you could change the starting equipment from Generic and Custom to Generic, Custom and Species, so that Elites start with Cov Carbine and Plasma Rifle and Plasma Nades, while MCs <cool name> start with SMGs and BRs with Frag nades.

personally i believe theirs no difference...

  • 07.25.2004 9:31 AM PDT
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Well, it's a good idea, but it brings up a few problems.
1. It's still possible that the Elites might not be carrying a spare power core with them.
2. I think that Elites and Spartans should be exactly the same (in MP only), else it wouldn't be even, and wouldn't reflect which player is really better. Maybe it could be a turn on/off option.
Good thinking though.

  • 07.25.2004 9:33 AM PDT
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this would be a good option for a war option, were both sides get
their races vehicles and wepons.

  • 07.25.2004 9:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: DualWieldinFreak
Well, it's a good idea, but it brings up a few problems.
1. It's still possible that the Elites might not be carrying a spare power core with them.
2. I think that Elites and Spartans should be exactly the same (in MP only), else it wouldn't be even, and wouldn't reflect which player is really better. Maybe it could be a turn on/off option.
Good thinking though.


Yes, i thought of the same problems too, but turn/off would be cool. And the other ideas arent bad at all - as the longer reload time for Elites (human weapons only off course).
I either think it will be on, but let's give Bungie ideas....hehe...maybe they can use them.

  • 07.25.2004 9:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: xH4L0 L3G3NDx
this would be a good option for a war option, were both sides get
their races vehicles and wepons.


YEAH!!!!!

  • 07.25.2004 9:38 AM PDT
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The only problem with that would be the lack of a Hog on the Covenant side, unless they put in a Covie equivalent the Elites will be at a disadvantage in CTF as they will have no way to transport the flag back (You couldnt drive with the flag in E3 2004 Demo)!

  • 07.25.2004 9:53 AM PDT
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They would still could use the shadow - if it is in multiplayer.
On either hand they could still board the Hog from the spartans!

  • 07.25.2004 10:00 AM PDT
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thatd be awsome

  • 07.25.2004 10:31 AM PDT
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Sweat idea dude! I also this that would be a awsome war option.

  • 07.25.2004 10:32 AM PDT
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Species weapon setting will be cool! I heard some people talking about starting up an Elite only clan where they only use Covenant weapons! =D Now thats commitment to the cause!

  • 07.25.2004 10:43 AM PDT

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The elites won't be able to recharge it unless the spartans can also. Halos supposed to be balanced right?

  • 07.25.2004 10:45 AM PDT
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Hey ash55, i think it could be cooler if both sides has advantages and disadvantages. They are aliens - we are human - there MUST be a difference if it has to be cool.

Anyway I don't think that Bungie would make differences between the species.

  • 07.25.2004 11:29 AM PDT
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Maybe they can't figure out how to reload the pistol

  • 07.25.2004 11:31 AM PDT
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i like the on/off option

  • 07.25.2004 11:33 AM PDT
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Well...The Spartans are the best of the best and same with the Elites. I really dont want any disadvantages becuase it would give some people more to complain about. They would rant and rave about how the Elites get to reload the gun or something stupid..If it was all balanced all they could say is he hacks! Which is where the back of my hand comes into play.
But I like the idea of equalilty..Is that spelled right? Looks kinda funny..


[Edited on 7/25/2004 11:37:34 AM]

  • 07.25.2004 11:37 AM PDT
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dosen't matter to me i plan on being the MC and i omly use human weapons in multiplayer besides plasma grenades and mabey the new energy sword

  • 07.25.2004 11:38 AM PDT
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Also by halo 2 who knows we may have figured out how to recharge or replace the energy charge.

  • 07.25.2004 12:06 PM PDT
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How often do you actually run out of energy in your plasma weapons in multiplayer anyway? I mean it has 100 energy which equates to roughly 200 shots, and 10 overcharged PP shots (I think) And how many times will you fire 200 shots with the same gun, you either die or will have changed it before then!

  • 07.25.2004 12:12 PM PDT
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Endnote has a very good point. It does come out to roughly 200 shots. But with dual-wielding you have about 400 shots. 400 shots is a lot. I think you would be fine with 200 shots. If not, go pick up another one, thats how you do it with any other weapon.

  • 07.25.2004 12:17 PM PDT
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Hmmm...yes I agree Ednote.

Maybe not with the plasma core then, but with something else that can make a difference between the species. If there are no differences, then how can we feel that we are Elites and not Spartans, or the other way. Then it would be the same if there only were Spartans, wouldnt it?

That's why i think that it would be cooler (and don't think that so many would complain if there was an on/off option.
Multiplayer will be greater if there were bigger differences between Spartans and Elites, than just the lokok.

That's just what I think.

  • 07.26.2004 12:46 AM PDT
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Who's the guy who said that the elite is the MC equilivant? Was is just me but in halo 1, just one spartan, and I hear from those that read the books that he isn't even the most skilled spartan killed a whole armada of covenant or something. Now, there were plenty of elites tro bruise MC if they were EQUAL!

Anyway, the elites and the MC won't be different because they are simply skins. They only chose the elite because they have the similar abilities and attribrutes. Such as, same height (near enough) has a sheild, can jump high. This list goes on. And IMO it would be lame with the different abilities, it will just uneven the odds. If done properly then the spartans will always rain death on the elites. And how fair is the elite being able to reload with the small disadvantage of reloadin slower? Wheras MC can't reload a weapon full stop.

  • 07.26.2004 1:05 AM PDT

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Well said by Comrade, but i do hope they put a starting equipment species set in, like generic and custom! that'd be cool!

  • 07.26.2004 1:14 AM PDT
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I like the idea of an on and off option for everything (weapons, vehicles, powerups). Timesplitters 2 had different attributes for each character and you could turn them on or off, that was cool. I'd like to see that in Halo2.

  • 07.26.2004 1:18 AM PDT

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