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Subject: ! Does anyone else experience "Air Lag"?
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For some strange reason whenever I do things such as...

Get out of a hog

Launch high in the air

Grenade or Rocket Jump

"Warthog Tailwhip" Jump

It gets all glitchy and seems to go about 3 FPS or so (but I KNOW it's not the FPS). It's not the FPS because it doesn't happen on LAN and I've done some of these things with the FPS counter on and it's fine. It MUST be some kind of networking or lag. So, I'm wondering the following...

Does this happen to anyone else?

How can I fix this?

Why does it only happen in these situations and not others?

Thank you in advance for any and all replies/feedback/help.

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  • 06.30.2005 3:23 PM PDT
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that sounds like lag, unless you have a really crappy graphics card. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i think servers try to "predict" where players go. They don't seem to "predict" all that well when you get blown out of a hog. I don't know of a way to help this at all, if there is even a way to fix it at all.

If you start skipping or whatever from just doing a regular jump, and end up really high, the server is probably running devtrainer. There is a "super jump" cheat for devtrainer that lets u jump really high. If you run devtrainer too, you won't skip as much, but won't fix the skipping from hogs and such.

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  • 06.30.2005 3:29 PM PDT

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If I jump from a moving hog in a network game I seem to warp or bounce around, but if I set up a LAN game and do the same thing, movement is smooth. I've had this and other things that seem like they could be lag problems happen even when my ping was low, (67). One example: I was on a clan server and my ping was 67 as were most of the host clan players. They still seemed to move faster even though we had the same ping. I considered that they might have been on the same LAN as the server, but our pings were similar, yet they seemed to move much faster. Is it safe to assume that ping is not the only measure of lag? I've also been in high ping games, (300) that did not lag that much. It was a surprise.

  • 06.30.2005 4:17 PM PDT
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Yes, I've had this happen. I think there's a point where the physics engine is just calculating too much data to be sent to the server in a timely fashion.

Example:

My friend and I used to use a mod for Blood Gulch called Gulch War 2 - essentially replaces 80% of the game's projectiles with rockets. This means the shotgun, instead of firing a buttload of pellets, fires a buttload of rockets. Gulch War 2 + Overshield jumping = Spartans flying straight from one base to another, Warthogs being launched and used as flying people-crushers, and so on... without having to stack grenades in a specific way or anything. Point, shoot, launch. Fun times.

Anyway, some of the things we did caused the hogs we were playing with to move so fast that they looked like they were flying in a straight line. We only knew they were spinning because every few seconds you'd see a few really fast spins...

I don't think there's anything you can do about it.

To answer your question, yes, ping is not the only source of lag. There are tons of variables that can cause lag. It depends on the game and how the positions and so on are calculated - I don't have any idea how Halo does it.

  • 06.30.2005 4:58 PM PDT
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Weird, everyone I've asked in "stunt" games (where there's lots of 'hog launching etc.) I mention this to and they say "No, that doesn't happen to me.", so I really don't know what it is.

  • 06.30.2005 6:31 PM PDT
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the person you ask is most likely the host. The host doesn't get lag, so of course he's gonna say it doesn't happen to him.

  • 06.30.2005 7:28 PM PDT
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or if the host has there alldev/dev trainer with super jump on u will fly around all warpy and laggy like u jump u will lagg skip weired o_O.

HeRo,

  • 07.01.2005 1:06 AM PDT
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Could be a mod that makes you do that.

  • 07.01.2005 10:26 AM PDT
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I know it wasn't a mod and people other than the host said they did not experience it. So I really don't know what this is.

  • 07.01.2005 6:24 PM PDT