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Subject: Brutes are not in Halo Reach

if you've read the first book in the halo series, then you know that brutes were not part of the covenent yet. Brutes were not introduced untill Halo 2, Halo Reach, is before Halo CE. Brutes will not be in this game.

  • 10.10.2009 5:16 PM PDT

You never know... It wouldn't completely destroy the canon if they were to fight on Reach.

  • 10.10.2009 5:17 PM PDT
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Dip-blam!- if YOU would have read the books you would know brutes have been around since HARVEST learn before you teach false information

  • 10.10.2009 5:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: DK daze
Dude I don't care and my grammer is perfect.I used "Big", as you recall it to mak is specific."to not do...",is incorrect beause "do" is present tense/perfect(or future) when it was a past tense.

And if you read first strike, cole protocol, or contact harvest, you'd know that they WERE part of the covenant already. And seeing as this isn't based on the book, it's entirely likely that we'll see a few brutes.

  • 10.10.2009 5:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: A1N2G3U4S
And if you read first strike, cole protocol, or contact harvest, you'd know that they WERE part of the covenant already. And seeing as this isn't based on the book, it's entirely likely that we'll see a few brutes.
exactaly the OP is just a little kid trying to get attention

  • 10.10.2009 5:19 PM PDT
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I love Halo. I like its sequels.

No need to be harsh. He's just ill informed.

  • 10.10.2009 5:22 PM PDT

Everyone needs to quit over thinking the storyline especally with the books, its a video game quit trying to justify everything. =]

  • 10.10.2009 5:23 PM PDT

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Contact: Harvest disagrees.

Oh, and the game's not about the book. Brutes can be in, but it's not exactly certain.

  • 10.10.2009 5:23 PM PDT

No, The fall of Reach was about the invasion of REACH, in which there no brutes were apart of. If brutes were apart of the invasion, they would have been mentioned. Since this is halo REACH and there were no brutes in the invasion of REACH, then they wont be in the game halo REACH

  • 10.10.2009 5:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: JTmarksman
No, The fall of Reach was about the invasion of REACH, in which there no brutes were apart of. If brutes were apart of the invasion, they would have been mentioned. Since this is halo REACH and there were no brutes in the invasion of REACH, then they wont be in the game halo REACH


Brutes were not yet thought up in Canon when Halo: The Fall of Reach was written. The only reason PROPHETS are in there is because they were cut from Halo one, and were originally Elites with a special headdress.

They can be in the game. It does NOT follow the TINY amount of battle we have seen on Reach - we're not following the particular team of spartans who found the crystal, but some of the others, likely from the same pelican. We are NOT fighting in Castle Base or that section of the forerunner building. Brutes can be in, however unlikely it seems.

  • 10.10.2009 5:28 PM PDT

new canon > old cannon as long as it's not a crazy change (like if bungie changed MC to be a girl)

(ie, contact harvest being made after the fall of reach)

  • 10.10.2009 5:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: JTmarksman
No, The fall of Reach was about the invasion of REACH, in which there no brutes were apart of. If brutes were apart of the invasion, they would have been mentioned. Since this is halo REACH and there were no brutes in the invasion of REACH, then they wont be in the game halo REACH


Your train of thought is flawed. Just because they never mentioned the Brutes when they described the force that attacked the Castle Base doesn't mean that they never participated in Reach.

Not really sure if you know this, but Reach is a planet. Just because in 1 small part of the planet, there weren't any doesn't mean that they were not at Reach.

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Posted by: JTmarksman
No, The fall of Reach was about the invasion of REACH, in which there no brutes were apart of. If brutes were apart of the invasion, they would have been mentioned. Since this is halo REACH and there were no brutes in the invasion of REACH, then they wont be in the game halo REACH
So I guess that means the Arbiter wasn't at Alpha Halo because he wasn't in Halo 1 or Halo: The Flood.

Posted by: llamalizard
Brutes were not yet thought up in Canon when Halo: The Fall of Reach was written.
Actually, they were. When Halsey was naming off the Covenant castes from Intelligence to the Spartans before their mission to capture a Prophet, she notes a second leadership caste also capable of commanding ships. She had already mentioned the Elites and Prophets. This second leadership caste are the Brutes.

  • 10.10.2009 5:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: JTmarksman
No, The fall of Reach was about the invasion of REACH, in which there no brutes were apart of. If brutes were apart of the invasion, they would have been mentioned. Since this is halo REACH and there were no brutes in the invasion of REACH, then they wont be in the game halo REACH
So I guess that means the Arbiter wasn't at Alpha Halo because he wasn't in Halo 1 or Halo: The Flood.

Posted by: llamalizard
Brutes were not yet thought up in Canon when Halo: The Fall of Reach was written.
Actually, they were. When Halsey was naming off the Covenant castes from Intelligence to the Spartans before their mission to capture a Prophet, she notes a second leadership caste also capable of commanding ships. She had already mentioned the Elites and Prophets. This second leadership caste are the Brutes.


Oh, cool. I guess they hadn't thought up a name or story for them yet though.

regardless, they can still be in the game.


EDIT: didn't she say they THOUGHT there was another caste they hadn't seen yet?

[Edited on 10.10.2009 5:37 PM PDT]

  • 10.10.2009 5:36 PM PDT

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Well the Elites, Prophets, Brutes were theoretical castes, in that there were lots of reports, but they were not encountered wide-spread like the Grunts and Jackals.

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Posted by: JTmarksman
No, The fall of Reach was about the invasion of REACH, in which there no brutes were apart of. If brutes were apart of the invasion, they would have been mentioned. Since this is halo REACH and there were no brutes in the invasion of REACH, then they wont be in the game halo REACH
So I guess that means the Arbiter wasn't at Alpha Halo because he wasn't in Halo 1 or Halo: The Flood.

Posted by: llamalizard
Brutes were not yet thought up in Canon when Halo: The Fall of Reach was written.
Actually, they were. When Halsey was naming off the Covenant castes from Intelligence to the Spartans before their mission to capture a Prophet, she notes a second leadership caste also capable of commanding ships. She had already mentioned the Elites and Prophets. This second leadership caste are the Brutes.
Cheehwawa to the rescue ! If bungie wanted to they could easily find a reason for it to be acceptable with the cannon. As much as i hate to admit it we could be fighting brutes in reach. We don't know though, quite frankly we don't know anything about the game other than it's an FPS.
EDIT: It's exactly like ODST. If bungie wants us to fight brutes you can bet your ass we're going to be fighting brutes.

[Edited on 10.10.2009 5:53 PM PDT]

  • 10.10.2009 5:52 PM PDT

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Obviously you haven't read the novels. This post fails hard.Posted by: JTmarksman
if you've read the first book in the halo series, then you know that brutes were not part of the covenent yet. Brutes were not introduced untill Halo 2, Halo Reach, is before Halo CE. Brutes will not be in this game.

  • 10.10.2009 5:56 PM PDT

Posted by: iTz TrOLLiN
Good, I'm sick of Brutes. We need some intelligence and dignity!

Ironic coming from the guy who also has a spiker for a display picture.

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Posted by: DK daze
Dude I don't care and my grammer is perfect.I used "Big", as you recall it to mak is specific."to not do...",is incorrect beause "do" is present tense/perfect(or future) when it was a past tense.

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Posted by: iTz TrOLLiN
Good, I'm sick of Brutes. We need some intelligence and dignity!

Ironic coming from the guy who also has a spiker for a display picture.
Ha, you spiker whore you!^-^

  • 10.10.2009 6:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: iTz TrOLLiN
Good, I'm sick of Brutes. We need some intelligence and dignity!

Ironic coming from the guy who also has a spiker for a display picture.
Ha, you spiker whore you!^-^

Theres a reason why most spikers spawn in pairs you know...

  • 10.10.2009 6:03 PM PDT

nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

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Posted by: jjag20
Dip-blam!- if YOU would have read the books you would know brutes have been around since HARVEST learn before you teach false information

true...
but they weren't in Halo: the Fall of Reach or Halo: Combat Evolved so its unlikely that they will be in Halo: Reach.

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Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: A1N2G3U4S
Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: iTz TrOLLiN
Good, I'm sick of Brutes. We need some intelligence and dignity!

Ironic coming from the guy who also has a spiker for a display picture.
Ha, you spiker whore you!^-^

Theres a reason why most spikers spawn in pairs you know...

haha lolz

  • 10.10.2009 7:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: jjag20
Dip-blam!- if YOU would have read the books you would know brutes have been around since HARVEST learn before you teach false information

true...
but they weren't in Halo: the Fall of Reach or Halo: Combat Evolved so its unlikely that they will be in Halo: Reach.


An Elite Fleet commanded by the future Arbiter chased after the PoA. Do elites usually have brutes in their fleet? I don't think so. Not to mention Halo: Fall of Reach probably didn't cover every single detail of the Battle of Reach.

  • 10.10.2009 7:23 PM PDT

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