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Subject: Crashtakular

I'm xAssault12x, and I love the Halo Universe. Discussion please!

Whenever I play Halo and I find myself in a Banshee or Hornet flying around a map I often wish that if either took a certain amount of damage that is close to the amount it takes to be destroyed that my plane would crash instead of just get blown up by one bullet.

Here's an example. Say a Hornet has 100 hit point. (I don't know how many it really has so just play along.) If the Hornet takes a lot of damage and its hit points are reduced to 10 then it can still fly, but if it's hit point drop below 10 but not all the way to zero then it will crash.

When I say crash I don't meen some predetermined automatic crash routine that takes over. I meen you should start losing control of the plane and maybe controls stop responding and you start to lose altitude. This would allow someone to attempt to save themselves. If you are lucky and know how to fly a a Hornet or Banshee or whatever, then you have a chance to successfuly crash land. Once you crash land you should be extremely weak and your shields should take twice the normal time to start recharging, and even when they begin to recharge they should recharge at half the normal rate.

This would allow whoever shot the plane down a chance to still get the kill if the pilot survived by running up and shooting him and it would also make sure that people would do whatever they could to not crash at all.

You get a chance to survive a crash but you are very weak if you do, and if an enemy finds you not long after you crash then they have a huge advantage as they rightfully should.

Crash landing would be awesome. I think Bungie should include this, and there would be a cool achievement to go with it. I call it Crashtakular. You can only get this by splatering someone while crash landing.

EDIT:

Some people have given me the idea that some form of this could work for ground vehicles as well. I think the way a system like this would wokr for ground vehicles would be a disable system. When a vehicle's hit point goes critical some part of it stops working or gets blown off. The effected part is determined by where the vehicle was hit with the disabling blow.

Example 1:

A Scorpion rolls over a hill and starts shelling a base. The Scorpion has already taken some damage so it is weak but still fully functional. A guy on the other team fires a rocket and the tank driver doesn't see it. The rocket smashes into the front left tread drive section and destroys it. The rocket pushed the hit points into the critical level so the rocket caused the destruction of the front left drive section. Now the tank is imobalized, but the turret still works. In this case the tank is in one pice but cannot move.

Example 2:

A warthog is driving around the map causeing hell for the opposing team. It takes a lot of damage and is close to critical when a guy comes out a unloads a clip of AR into the Hog. The majority of the rounds hit the front right tire pushing the Hog into critical hit points. The front right tire gets blown out and is now flat. Since the Hog was driving fast this causes a major change in how the vehicle handles and the driver loses control. The last part is not a predetermined reaction. The physics simply change and the driver failed to compensate. The warthog crashes into a tree and is soon destroyed when the enemy team surrounds it.

Example 3:

A Gauss Warthog is driving around killing stuff, but it has taken some damage. A freak even it about to occur in which both systems interact. The Hog jumps off a hill and ramps into the air. At the exact same time a Banshee that also has taken a fair amount of damage is flying low and fast trying to avoid gunfire. The Hog suddenly appears over the hill and as the Banshee tries to avoid it the Banshees right wing smashes into the Gauss turret. Both vehicles are pushed into critical levels so the right wing of the Banshee is destroyed and the Gauss turret is ripped off of the Hog killing the gunner. The Banshee loses control and spirals into a tree and explodes. However, the driver of the Warthog survives and is now driving a Gauss Hog with no Gauss turret.

Sound good or not?

[Edited on 10.12.2009 1:40 PM PDT]

  • 10.12.2009 11:59 AM PDT

Sounds awesome. I want in.

  • 10.12.2009 12:02 PM PDT
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Great idea. I hope it gets included.

  • 10.12.2009 12:04 PM PDT

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sounds good but I imageing me geting BR'ed after crashing but
who knows? keep the ideas comeing!

  • 10.12.2009 12:04 PM PDT

sounds good. i like this.

  • 10.12.2009 12:06 PM PDT

I'm xAssault12x, and I love the Halo Universe. Discussion please!

Posted by: Halflingforever
sounds good but I imageing me geting BR'ed after crashing but
who knows? keep the ideas comeing!


Yea, getting killed after you crash would be a big possibility but at least you have a chance. Now you just get blown up and that is it.

  • 10.12.2009 12:07 PM PDT

I'd give up everything just to make you happy.

Sounds good.

  • 10.12.2009 12:08 PM PDT

oke... I kinda like it but reed my post at your awesome tread about the weapens!

  • 10.12.2009 12:10 PM PDT

excellent idea, even I, one who uses the banshee whenever possible, think this would be excellent, and it would make it alot more fun, as well as make it slightly easier to take down the banshee.

EDIT: if this was a FEATURE of a level in campaign, I'll be really happy. I can just imagine a group of spartans in stolen banshees, being shot and falling. perhaps you'd have to make it survive the fall?

[Edited on 10.12.2009 12:12 PM PDT]

  • 10.12.2009 12:10 PM PDT

I'm xAssault12x, and I love the Halo Universe. Discussion please!

I think we all enjoy those cool crash scenes in video games. Imagine how cool it would be to actualy have to try and save youself because your plane is crashing and you are loosing control. Awesomeness to the maximum.

  • 10.12.2009 12:13 PM PDT

Let's say when ships are in this condition, they would be prone to explosions when hitting something.

Imagine: *ships going down* *steers and crash into an enemy* *enemy dies* *new medal created for this*

Would be awesome.

  • 10.12.2009 12:16 PM PDT

I suppose that is reasonable.

  • 10.12.2009 12:17 PM PDT

I'm xAssault12x, and I love the Halo Universe. Discussion please!

Posted by: ABotelho
Let's say when ships are in this condition, they would be prone to explosions when hitting something.

Imagine: *ships going down* *steers and crash into an enemy* *enemy dies* *new medal created for this*

Would be awesome.


I think splattering someone while crashing deserves an achievement and just plain old killing someone from crash landing near them doesn't deserve anything. They were just unlucky enough to be near you when you crashed. Maybe if you kill someone after you crash while you are still weak deserves a medal.

Also, splattering someone while crash landing should not only be a new achievment, you should get a unique splatter medal for it. That way you can still get recognised for doing something awesome after you already got the achievement. That would be one rare medal that everyone would want.

[Edited on 10.12.2009 12:25 PM PDT]

  • 10.12.2009 12:22 PM PDT

Yes, really

this is cool. I would like it more simple though. like the hornet/'shee just turns off and you fall, but dont explode until you hit the ground so you can jump out.

  • 10.12.2009 12:25 PM PDT

This an awesome idea. I'd love to see this

  • 10.12.2009 12:36 PM PDT

Nice idea!

This could also apply to land vehicles too. For example, a warthog's tires blowout and the car spins out of control before exploding in a burst of fire. If you like this idea, you could possibly expand on it.

  • 10.12.2009 1:11 PM PDT

I'm xAssault12x, and I love the Halo Universe. Discussion please!

Posted by: D E F A U L T3Dd
Nice idea!

This could also apply to land vehicles too. For example, a warthog's tires blowout and the car spins out of control before exploding in a burst of fire. If you like this idea, you could possibly expand on it.


Check out the post now. I added some stuff you might like.

  • 10.12.2009 1:40 PM PDT

I'm xAssault12x, and I love the Halo Universe. Discussion please!

Posted by: napleonBlwnaprt
this is cool. I would like it more simple though. like the hornet/'shee just turns off and you fall, but dont explode until you hit the ground so you can jump out.


Bailing out would just be lame. Having to crash land in order to save yourself is much more exciting. Besides, have you ever seen a plane or helicopter just turn off when damaged? Doesn't happen. They either blast into a thousand pieces or come crahsing to the ground while still on and lots of crap breaking or failing while the pilot is trying to recover or land without killing eveyone inside the plane.

Crash landing is realistic and would add a whole new awesomeness to air vehicles. Maybe if I take a bad hit in a Banshee and I am gunna crash I can try and crash my Banshea into an enemy and take someone with me. That leads to the Achievment. That would be the hardest Halo Achievment ever. You would either be the luckiest person or have amazing skill.

  • 10.12.2009 11:21 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

Yes pretty good ideas. I also think you should be able to snipe the wheels of a mongoose or warthog.

  • 10.12.2009 11:40 PM PDT

Mind, body and soul, possibly my sole properties

Or what if depending on what parts got damaged, certain features stopped working. Like if you take out one of the hover pods the flight is gimped

  • 10.12.2009 11:43 PM PDT

Betatesters are disposable.

I like that.
Of course, partially damaged vehicles would be even cooler, but the initial idea of the OP would be a great first step.

  • 10.13.2009 1:47 AM PDT

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Sounds amazing! Except the part with the Turretless Warthog, that's a bit too unbalanced, but everything else was spectacular!

[Edited on 10.13.2009 1:57 AM PDT]

  • 10.13.2009 1:57 AM PDT

I wish I was still legendary.

That's a cool idea. Maybe if when in a warthog the only things that could happen are immobilisation and flat tires though - it's redundant to have a turretless warthog. It's a good idea though, I can definitely imagine shooting a banshee full of rockets, the banshee suddenly swerving away due to having one wing missing, and crashing into a cliff face. A phantom falling towards the ground, one side faster than the other and the passengers falling out.

  • 10.13.2009 2:07 AM PDT

sounds good, and i think you should be able to kamakazie crash land into somebody to kill them

  • 10.13.2009 5:39 AM PDT

I'm xAssault12x, and I love the Halo Universe. Discussion please!

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Yes pretty good ideas. I also think you should be able to snipe the wheels of a mongoose or warthog.


That would be cool but it would be a nightmare to put into the game and vehicles would be a lot easyer to kill or gimp. The reason I want any kind of damage that could effect vehicles to only happen when they are already close to being destroyed is so that you can get a lot out of a good vehicle but when it is damaged you have tpo worry about losing a tire or something.

  • 10.13.2009 11:55 AM PDT

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