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Subject: do you want Bungie to put a Class system in Reach?

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Posted by: Frost1691 1691
I don't think Halo's style of gameplay would work with a class system. Think about it, in Halo people are all equal and spawn with the same weapon. They then rush to weapon spawn points and gain control of them. That's how the gameplay works and that's how it should stay.
You described Halo 1, 2, and 3. Who said Reach will have the same gameplay as those games?
Why change what isn't broken? The multiplayer style of Halo 3 has continuously shown that it is fine the way it is. I'm sure they are going to change something about the multiplayer, but I believe that it will not be class based.

  • 10.13.2009 5:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: Vespera34
excuse my laziness if someone already answered this, but what are class systems? At least in the context you guys are talking about, because i hear it alot lately in the reach forum
A class system, in the Team Fortress sense, includes a set of unique "classes", each with their own unique advantages and disadvantages, weapons, abilities, etc.

Contrary to popular belief, Call of Duty is not a class based game.

  • 10.13.2009 5:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: Frost1691 1691
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Frost1691 1691
I don't think Halo's style of gameplay would work with a class system. Think about it, in Halo people are all equal and spawn with the same weapon. They then rush to weapon spawn points and gain control of them. That's how the gameplay works and that's how it should stay.
Oh please don't give me that "HAYLOH IS ABOUT BEING EQUAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!" s#$%.

Halo is not equal with all with power weapons or the BR.
You didn't even read what I said. When we spawn we are given equal abilities. It's the good players who get to the power weapons and control them. And it's the best players who manage to maintain control of these weapons throughout the entire game.
What isn't equal is having people who have sat on their ass for 10 days playing through multiplayer until they obtain every power weapon upon spawn. THAT'S not equal.
Yes I did read what you said, and the entire concept of power weapons rips balance apart. Also, consider that the person who spawns five feet closer to the BR PROBABLY has a better chance of picking it up. Nice argument.

And since you obviously have no idea what a class based game is, I will explain very important one thing very slowly.


CAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFF DUUUUUUUTTTTTTTYYYYYYYY FOOOOOOOOUUUUUURRRRRRRR IIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT CLAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSS BAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD!!!!! TEEEEEEEEEEEEAMMMMMM FORRRRRRRRRRRRTREEEEEEEEESSSSSSS TWOOOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIISSSSSSS CLAAAAAAASSSSSSSS BAAAAAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEDDDDDDDD!!!

Understand?

Posted by: AgLion
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Frost1691 1691
I don't think Halo's style of gameplay would work with a class system. Think about it, in Halo people are all equal and spawn with the same weapon. They then rush to weapon spawn points and gain control of them. That's how the gameplay works and that's how it should stay.
Oh please don't give me that "HAYLOH IS ABOUT BEING EQUAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!" s#$%.

Halo is not equal with all with power weapons or the BR.


*more asskissing*

Everybody, at first spawn, has an equal chance to get a power weapon, or any other weapon. Those who aren't good/fast enough to get the power weapon, too bad for them.

It's all about control, not spawning with the most powerful weapons when you get to rank 50.
This applies to your post too sweetheart, only imagine I'm not being an a hole to you.

[Edited on 10.13.2009 5:40 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2009 5:38 PM PDT

Posted by: AgLion
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Obvously not. We are not playing COD hear.


If I had a strip of bacon for everytime I heard that...


You would be pretty damn fat. LOL

  • 10.13.2009 5:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Frost1691 1691
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Frost1691 1691
I don't think Halo's style of gameplay would work with a class system. Think about it, in Halo people are all equal and spawn with the same weapon. They then rush to weapon spawn points and gain control of them. That's how the gameplay works and that's how it should stay.
Oh please don't give me that "HAYLOH IS ABOUT BEING EQUAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!" s#$%.

Halo is not equal with all with power weapons or the BR.
You didn't even read what I said. When we spawn we are given equal abilities. It's the good players who get to the power weapons and control them. And it's the best players who manage to maintain control of these weapons throughout the entire game.
What isn't equal is having people who have sat on their ass for 10 days playing through multiplayer until they obtain every power weapon upon spawn. THAT'S not equal.
Yes I did read what you said, and the entire concept of power weapons rips balance apart. Also, consider that the person who spawns five feet closer to the BR PROBABLY has a better chance of picking it up. Nice argument.

And since you obviously have no idea what a class based game is, I will explain very important one thing very slowly.


CAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFF DUUUUUUUTTTTTTTYYYYYYYY FOOOOOOOOUUUUUURRRRRRRR IIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT CLAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSS BAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD!!!!! TEEEEEEEEEEEEAMMMMMM FORRRRRRRRRRRRTREEEEEEEEESSSSSSS TWOOOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIISSSSSSS CLAAAAAAASSSSSSSS BAAAAAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEDDDDDDDD!!!

Understand?
I understand what a class based game is. In a class based game people do not spawn with equal abilities. In Halo, everybody spawns equally and everybody DOES have the same chance to get power weapons. Like I said those who have the power weapons are good if they manage to keep the other team from obtaining the power weapons. Who said balance is a major part of Halo? If it was then there would be no power weapons. That is why in the beginning we spawn with equal weapons, then we go to spawns of the power weapons. If somebody spawns next to the sniper then that is their luck. It's up to the other team to kill the sniper and get the weapon for themselves, if they cannot do that then they are not a good player. That's the formula of Halo and it has worked fine for years.

[Edited on 10.13.2009 5:45 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2009 5:42 PM PDT

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
CAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFF DUUUUUUUTTTTTTTYYYYYYYY FOOOOOOOOUUUUUURRRRRRRR IIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT CLAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSS BAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD!!!!! TEEEEEEEEEEEEAMMMMMM FORRRRRRRRRRRRTREEEEEEEEESSSSSSS TWOOOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIISSSSSSS CLAAAAAAASSSSSSSS BAAAAAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEDDDDDDDD!!!

Understand?


I'm sure that the people who are for class based gameplay and are serious about discussing it must love your kind. With friends like you, who needs enemies? We pretty much have our work cut out for us.

  • 10.13.2009 5:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
CAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFF DUUUUUUUTTTTTTTYYYYYYYY FOOOOOOOOUUUUUURRRRRRRR IIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT CLAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSS BAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD!!!!! TEEEEEEEEEEEEAMMMMMM FORRRRRRRRRRRRTREEEEEEEEESSSSSSS TWOOOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIISSSSSSS CLAAAAAAASSSSSSSS BAAAAAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEDDDDDDDD!!!

Understand?


I'm sure that the people who are for class based gameplay and are serious about discussing it must love your kind. With friends like you, who needs enemies? We pretty much have our work cut out for us.
They do love me.


<3

  • 10.13.2009 5:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: Frost1691 1691
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Frost1691 1691
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Frost1691 1691
I don't think Halo's style of gameplay would work with a class system. Think about it, in Halo people are all equal and spawn with the same weapon. They then rush to weapon spawn points and gain control of them. That's how the gameplay works and that's how it should stay.
Oh please don't give me that "HAYLOH IS ABOUT BEING EQUAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!" s#$%.

Halo is not equal with all with power weapons or the BR.
You didn't even read what I said. When we spawn we are given equal abilities. It's the good players who get to the power weapons and control them. And it's the best players who manage to maintain control of these weapons throughout the entire game.
What isn't equal is having people who have sat on their ass for 10 days playing through multiplayer until they obtain every power weapon upon spawn. THAT'S not equal.
Yes I did read what you said, and the entire concept of power weapons rips balance apart. Also, consider that the person who spawns five feet closer to the BR PROBABLY has a better chance of picking it up. Nice argument.

And since you obviously have no idea what a class based game is, I will explain very important one thing very slowly.


CAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFF DUUUUUUUTTTTTTTYYYYYYYY FOOOOOOOOUUUUUURRRRRRRR IIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT CLAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSS BAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD!!!!! TEEEEEEEEEEEEAMMMMMM FORRRRRRRRRRRRTREEEEEEEEESSSSSSS TWOOOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIISSSSSSS CLAAAAAAASSSSSSSS BAAAAAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEDDDDDDDD!!!

Understand?
I understand what a class based game is. Who said balance is a major part of Halo? If it was then there would be no power weapons. That is why in the beginning we spawn with equal weapons, then we go to spawns of the power weapons. If somebody spawns next to the sniper then that is their luck. It's up to the other team to kill the sniper and get the weapon for themselves, if they cannot do that then they are not a good player. That's the formula of Halo and it has worked fine for years.
You did when you talked about everyone having equal abilities.

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Posted by: Hylebos
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CAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFF DUUUUUUUTTTTTTTYYYYYYYY FOOOOOOOOUUUUUURRRRRRRR IIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT CLAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSS BAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD!!!!! TEEEEEEEEEEEEAMMMMMM FORRRRRRRRRRRRTREEEEEEEEESSSSSSS TWOOOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIISSSSSSS CLAAAAAAASSSSSSSS BAAAAAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEDDDDDDDD!!!

Understand?


I'm sure that the people who are for class based gameplay and are serious about discussing it must love your kind. With friends like you, who needs enemies? We pretty much have our work cut out for us.


That is easily THE most epic quote I have ever seen. Reminds me of somebody...

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Posted by: Frost1691 1691
Posted by: AK 47625714
Posted by: Frost1691 1691
I don't think Halo's style of gameplay would work with a class system. Think about it, in Halo people are all equal and spawn with the same weapon. They then rush to weapon spawn points and gain control of them. That's how the gameplay works and that's how it should stay.
You described Halo 1, 2, and 3. Who said Reach will have the same gameplay as those games?
Why change what isn't broken? The multiplayer style of Halo 3 has continuously shown that it is fine the way it is. I'm sure they are going to change something about the multiplayer, but I believe that it will not be class based.
You're right, it has worked for years, but how many times can you constantly reuse that same formula? People will get bored quickly. This is the current problem with the gaming industry, developers are unwilling to take risks and try something new.

I'm not saying that the game will be class-based, I'm just saying that it's possible.

[Edited on 10.13.2009 5:50 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2009 5:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Frost1691 1691
[quote]Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
[quote]Posted by: Frost1691 1691
[quote]Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
I understand what a class based game is. Who said balance is a major part of Halo? If it was then there would be no power weapons. That is why in the beginning we spawn with equal weapons, then we go to spawns of the power weapons. If somebody spawns next to the sniper then that is their luck. It's up to the other team to kill the sniper and get the weapon for themselves, if they cannot do that then they are not a good player. That's the formula of Halo and it has worked fine for years.
You did when you talked about everyone having equal abilities.
Umm..no I didn't?? I said everybody is equal in the beginning. Then the game becomes unbalanced when one team gains control of the power weapons.
Seriously, calm the hell down. I did nothing to garner this type of reaction from you. I hope this isn't how you act in real life when somebody doesn't agree with you, otherwise you must be a complete -blam!-.

  • 10.13.2009 5:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: Frost1691 1691
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Frost1691 1691
[quote]Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
[quote]Posted by: Frost1691 1691
[quote]Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
I understand what a class based game is. Who said balance is a major part of Halo? If it was then there would be no power weapons. That is why in the beginning we spawn with equal weapons, then we go to spawns of the power weapons. If somebody spawns next to the sniper then that is their luck. It's up to the other team to kill the sniper and get the weapon for themselves, if they cannot do that then they are not a good player. That's the formula of Halo and it has worked fine for years.
You did when you talked about everyone having equal abilities.
Umm..no I didn't?? I said everybody is equal in the beginning. Then the game becomes unbalanced when one team gains control of the power weapons.
Seriously, calm the hell down. I did nothing to garner this type of reaction from you. I hope this isn't how you act in real life when somebody doesn't agree with you, otherwise you must be a complete -blam!-.
Sorry dude, I'm just taking out all my anger out on people for the retards who think class based games are like COD4.

And I'm on my male period.

EDIT: And I'm sick of the stupid reasons for no classes...

[Edited on 10.13.2009 5:54 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2009 5:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Frost1691 1691
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Frost1691 1691
[quote]Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
[quote]Posted by: Frost1691 1691
[quote]Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
I understand what a class based game is. Who said balance is a major part of Halo? If it was then there would be no power weapons. That is why in the beginning we spawn with equal weapons, then we go to spawns of the power weapons. If somebody spawns next to the sniper then that is their luck. It's up to the other team to kill the sniper and get the weapon for themselves, if they cannot do that then they are not a good player. That's the formula of Halo and it has worked fine for years.
You did when you talked about everyone having equal abilities.
Umm..no I didn't?? I said everybody is equal in the beginning. Then the game becomes unbalanced when one team gains control of the power weapons.
Seriously, calm the hell down. I did nothing to garner this type of reaction from you. I hope this isn't how you act in real life when somebody doesn't agree with you, otherwise you must be a complete -blam!-.
Sorry dude, I'm just taking out all my anger out on people for the retards who think class based games are like COD4.

And I'm on my male period.

EDIT: And I'm sick of the stupid reasons for no classes...
It's cool. Get yourself a manpon :p

  • 10.13.2009 5:56 PM PDT

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HELLZ NO!!!

  • 10.13.2009 5:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: goatman327
HELLZ NO!!!


SEE!!! SEE WHAT THEY DO TO PISS ME OFF?!?!?!?!!?

  • 10.13.2009 5:59 PM PDT

War never decides who is right; only who is left.

The old Halo multiplayer from 1,2, and 3 is getting old. I'm not sold yet on the idea of class-based multiplayer, but huge changes are necessary to keep Halo from being stale. Like old saltine crackers. No one likes those.

  • 10.13.2009 6:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: goatman327
HELLZ NO!!!


SEE!!! SEE WHAT THEY DO TO PISS ME OFF?!?!?!?!!?


They talk?

  • 10.13.2009 6:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: Z Blaster700
The old Halo multiplayer from 1,2, and 3 is getting old. I'm not sold yet on the idea of class-based multiplayer, but huge changes are necessary to keep Halo from being stale. Like old saltine crackers. No one likes those.


All games will eventually get boring. Don't expect Halo to last just because it's Halo.

  • 10.13.2009 6:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: AgLion
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: goatman327
HELLZ NO!!!


SEE!!! SEE WHAT THEY DO TO PISS ME OFF?!?!?!?!!?


They talk?
NO, THEY TALK IN CAPS AND POST STUPID STATEMENTS ALL OVER THE INTERNET!!!!

...Wait a second....

Posted by: AgLion
Posted by: Z Blaster700
The old Halo multiplayer from 1,2, and 3 is getting old. I'm not sold yet on the idea of class-based multiplayer, but huge changes are necessary to keep Halo from being stale. Like old saltine crackers. No one likes those.


All games will eventually get boring. Don't expect Halo to last just because it's Halo.
Yeah, but making a Halo 3 klone will have much less replay value than the other Halo games.


[Edited on 10.13.2009 6:07 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2009 6:05 PM PDT

-I was here

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: goatman327
HELLZ NO!!!


SEE!!! SEE WHAT THEY DO TO PISS ME OFF?!?!?!?!!?
what? thats just my opinion, it shouldn't really bother you that much.

  • 10.13.2009 6:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: AgLion
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: goatman327
HELLZ NO!!!


SEE!!! SEE WHAT THEY DO TO PISS ME OFF?!?!?!?!!?


They talk?
NO, THEY TALK IN CAPS AND POST STUPID STATEMENTS ALL OVER THE INTERNET!!!!


...Wait a second....


I was close...

I'll be eating all that bacon I collected now.

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Posted by: Hylebos
Halo is not the Intellectual Property that Bungie should use to make a Class based shooter.


Exactly, the new IP they said they'll(they're) working on might(should, in my opinion) have it.

  • 10.13.2009 6:09 PM PDT

Posted by: AgLion
Posted by: BIGNERENT
Obvously not. We are not playing COD hear.


If I had a strip of bacon for everytime I heard that...


you could start a bacon business

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Heck Yah! Team Fortress 2 anyone? ;D

  • 10.13.2009 6:13 PM PDT

I don't really care for class based games. Really don't know why, but I prefer the "Pick Up and Go" kind of thing.

  • 10.13.2009 6:16 PM PDT