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Subject: Classes does not = CoD
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Posted by: BIGNERENT
Posted by: AK 47625714
Posted by: BIGNERENT
Posted by: AK 47625714
Posted by: BIGNERENT
Classes=Sniper class,assult rifle class, and rocket class= Everyone starts with power weapons witch = 100% LAME.
You ever play Team Fortress?


No, but I am saying this wont work for halo.
Based on what?




Based on my formula?
If the game is class-based, I'm sure that weapons would be balanced to fit in. Player traits would be balanced for each class too.

  • 10.13.2009 6:09 PM PDT

Posted by: AK 47625714
sure that weapons would be balanced to fit in. Player traits would be balanced for each class too.


No doubt about that, Read my edit. It is not as info lacking as my first post.

  • 10.13.2009 6:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
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Posted by: BIGNERENT
Posted by: AK 47625714
sure that weapons would be balanced to fit in. Player traits would be balanced for each class too.


No doubt about that, Read my edit. It is not as info lacking as my first post.
Yeah it is, read my edit...

  • 10.13.2009 6:12 PM PDT

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: BIGNERENT
Posted by: AK 47625714
sure that weapons would be balanced to fit in. Player traits would be balanced for each class too.


No doubt about that, Read my edit. It is not as info lacking as my first post.
Yeah it is, read my edit...


How so, I just told you why classes would be stupid. Poeple unlock better guns at higher ranks, Makes them better. The new people don't have fun playing and cant rank up because they are getting there ass kicked by the "1337 guy with the uber cool gun unlockable gunz" It gives you all the info you need.

  • 10.13.2009 6:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: BIGNERENT
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: BIGNERENT
Posted by: AK 47625714
sure that weapons would be balanced to fit in. Player traits would be balanced for each class too.


No doubt about that, Read my edit. It is not as info lacking as my first post.
Yeah it is, read my edit...


How so, I just told you why classes would be stupid. Poeple unlock better guns at higher ranks, Makes them better. The new people don't have fun playing and cant rank up because they are getting there ass kicked by the "1337 guy with the uber cool gun unlockable gunz" It gives you all the info you need.
In a true class-based game, classes are not customizable, and you don't usually unlock new weapons.

  • 10.13.2009 6:15 PM PDT

To you post about me not playing glass based games. I play battlfeild on the XBOX and PC all the time R-tard.

  • 10.13.2009 6:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: BIGNERENT
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: BIGNERENT
Posted by: AK 47625714
sure that weapons would be balanced to fit in. Player traits would be balanced for each class too.


No doubt about that, Read my edit. It is not as info lacking as my first post.
Yeah it is, read my edit...


How so, I just told you why classes would be stupid. Poeple unlock better guns at higher ranks, Makes them better. The new people don't have fun playing and cant rank up because they are getting there ass kicked by the "1337 guy with the uber cool gun unlockable gunz" It gives you all the info you need.


MOST CLASS BASED GAMES DON'T UNLOCK WEAPONS TARD!!! *puts in another manpon*

EDIT: Lol, we both said tard...

[Edited on 10.13.2009 6:17 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2009 6:16 PM PDT

Posted by: AK 47625714
customizable, and you don't usually unlock new weapons.


Well that makes more sence. I am thinking all you class lovers want us to unlock weapons. This is why I hate the idea. It would be better this way. I still think halo's style is better though.

  • 10.13.2009 6:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: BIGNERENT
I am thinking all you class lovers want us to unlock weapons.
...wut?

  • 10.13.2009 6:18 PM PDT

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf

MOST CLASS BASED GAMES DON'T UNLOCK WEAPONS TARD!!! *puts in another manpon*

EDIT: Lol, we both said tard...



Dont get all pissy. Im under the impresson you unlock guns. Now I know what you class people want. I still think halo's style is better though.

  • 10.13.2009 6:19 PM PDT

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: BIGNERENT
I am thinking all you class lovers want us to unlock weapons.
...wut?


When you guys say you want class style in Reach. I thought you wanted like battlefeild class. When you unlock better guns the higher up you go. Thats ...wut?

  • 10.13.2009 6:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: BIGNERENT
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: BIGNERENT
I am thinking all you class lovers want us to unlock weapons.
...wut?


When you guys say you want class style in Reach. I thought you wanted like battlefeild class. When you unlock better guns the higher up you go. Thats ...wut?
Oh wait, you though-

...Oh you're silly, very silly.

  • 10.13.2009 6:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: BIGNERENT
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: BIGNERENT
Posted by: AK 47625714
sure that weapons would be balanced to fit in. Player traits would be balanced for each class too.


No doubt about that, Read my edit. It is not as info lacking as my first post.
Yeah it is, read my edit...


How so, I just told you why classes would be stupid. Poeple unlock better guns at higher ranks, Makes them better. The new people don't have fun playing and cant rank up because they are getting there ass kicked by the "1337 guy with the uber cool gun unlockable gunz" It gives you all the info you need.


MOST CLASS BASED GAMES DON'T UNLOCK WEAPONS TARD!!! *puts in another manpon*

EDIT: Lol, we both said tard...

you people honestly think that cod games give you better wepons the higher rank you are? take the m14 and the m16 for example m14 has muzzle climb semi auto fire rate cap reduced (modded controlers) while the m16 has no muzzle climb and fires in extremely accurate bursts tell me which one is better. just had to get vthat out

  • 10.13.2009 6:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: Defiant Assasin
you people honestly think that cod games give you better wepons the higher rank you are?
Yeah.

  • 10.13.2009 6:41 PM PDT

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I don't see the point in giving Halo classes, Halo is the only remaining classic multiplayer game; with weapons on the maps. In my opinion, it is FAR more competitive than Modern Warfare, the tactics you need to know (when rockets, overshield, sniper spawn etc. pulling weapons at the start of the map) make for a much more competitive experience.

I never took COD4 seriously, it was fun sure, but it's just too easy to rank up in and it just gets boring when every game is the same; the weapons on the map in Halo make for a different game every time (generally speaking).

I hope they don't make Halo like every other game, I mean sure, I like class games, but Halo pulls of the classic weapon pickup so well that it would be a big loss for the competitive community.

  • 10.13.2009 6:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
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Posted by: Sparbiter117
In my opinion, it is FAR more competitive than Modern Warfare, the tactics you need to know
You're very right!!!

Halo 3 tactics = RUN 4 TEH POWA WEPUNZ AND BRZ!!!!!! RUN RUN RUN RUNRURNURNRUR RUNRURN RURNRURNRURNRURN!!!

  • 10.13.2009 6:53 PM PDT

Look, its really quite simple guys.

I am a game developer. I want to make a class based shooter. Does it make more sense for me to be constrained by the canon of an existing intellectual property as I try to make it into something it never was supposed to be or develop a new universe for my class based shooter?

Usually in class based shooters both sides have identical classes right? In battle field bad company, both the Americans and the Russians have Specialists, Demolition, Assault, Support, and Sniper Classes.

So how would this work out in Halo? Sure, you can say that all the spartans have different specializations, but what about the covenant? What spartan class is the grunt an analogue of? What about the hunter? the drone? The covenant is a caste based millitary, Humanity is not. Its kinda hard to make a class based single player around that am I right?

Its much simpler to shelve your aspirations of taking over the class based genre for a different series of game than Halo.

Thats why Halo Reach will not be class based at all.

  • 10.13.2009 6:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Defiant Assasin
you people honestly think that cod games give you better wepons the higher rank you are?
Yeah.
now dont get me wrong some guns are better(im a rank 50 i should know) but you start off with a hell of a lot of good guns im all for a class system for reach but i want them to have their own pros and cons and i also want them to be unlocked from the start

[Edited on 10.13.2009 6:57 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2009 6:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: Hylebos
Look, its really quite simple guys.

I am a game developer.
LIES!!!

Posted by: Hylebos
I want to make a class based shooter. Does it make more sense for me to be constrained by the canon of an existing intellectual property as I try to make it into something it never was supposed to be or develop a new universe for my class based shooter?


If they think they can do it successfully I think they will go for a new option, it's not like Bungie is going to make a P.O.S. game anytime soon.


Posted by: Hylebos
Usually in class based shooters both sides have identical classes right? In battle field bad company, both the Americans and the Russians have Specialists, Demolition, Assault, Support, and Sniper Classes.

So how would this work out in Halo? Sure, you can say that all the spartans have different specializations, but what about the covenant? What spartan class is the grunt an analogue of? What about the hunter? the drone? The covenant is a caste based millitary, Humanity is not. Its kinda hard to make a class based single player around that am I right?
The classes would probaly be based around Spartans and Sanghelie (or whatever they're called). Hunters and such already fall into their own classes, Hunters and such, and I don't think they will be playable anyway.

Posted by: Hylebos
Its much simpler to shelve your aspirations of taking over the class based genre for a different series of game than Halo.
So you just want a Halo 3 remake?

Posted by: Hylebos
Thats why Halo Reach will not be class based at all.
Bungie proof or you're full of bull.



  • 10.13.2009 7:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: Defiant Assasin
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Defiant Assasin
you people honestly think that cod games give you better wepons the higher rank you are?
Yeah.
now dont get me wrong some guns are better(im a rank 50 i should know) but you start off with a hell of a lot of good guns im all for a class system for reach but i want them to have their own pros and cons and i also want them to be unlocked from the start
We just had a conflict about unlockable weapons. Start reading.

[Edited on 10.13.2009 7:09 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2009 7:08 PM PDT

Kick start a craze

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  • 10.13.2009 7:09 PM PDT

Kick start a craze

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Posted by: Captain Ezikiel
People fear change, that's all it comes down to.
And some people can never be content with what they've got, even if they asked for it in the first place.


haha if you're content with what you got then why not stick to just playing halo 3? What's the point in making a new game if it's going to be the same exact thing? I'm not saying classes are a necessity or if I think it's definitely what bungie should do, but they would certainly add a fresh new take on a nearly decade old style of gameplay.

P.S. my bad on the double post.

  • 10.13.2009 7:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: Captain Ezikiel
P.S. my bad on the double post.
SIN!!! /nun

  • 10.13.2009 7:21 PM PDT

class based halo would = everyone running around with sniper or rockets..
class based halo wouldnt work

plus bungie couldnt balance the game because everyone would have a flame storm about how the sniper blows and the rockets blow as well because they had to balance the game by making rockets not rockets and sniper not sniper

[Edited on 10.13.2009 7:56 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2009 7:55 PM PDT

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  • 10.13.2009 7:59 PM PDT

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