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Subject: Will lack of the BR destroy Reach?

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Poll: Will lack of the BR destroy Reach?  [closed]
Yes:  16%
(44 Votes)
No:  60%
(162 Votes)
Maybe:  7%
(18 Votes)
I prefer Pumpkin Pie.:  18%
(48 Votes)
Total Votes: 272

Yes, yes it will. We need BR. How do we seperate the failures from the pro skilled players?

  • 10.14.2009 2:00 AM PDT

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No, the Covenant will.

  • 10.14.2009 2:06 AM PDT

bungie has proven that a bunch of monkeys sitting in front of keyboards can randomly type out a masterpiece. the thing is, when you go to play the masterpiece, you cant help but notice all the monkey s**t smeared all over it.

it gets real old having to wait months for someone like mlg to clean off all the monkey poo.

Posted by: Burned Remains
No, the Covenant will.

if reach is full of a bunch of people capable of only running around holding right trigger and b, there wont be anything on reach worth the covenant destroying.

[Edited on 10.14.2009 3:22 AM PDT]

  • 10.14.2009 3:15 AM PDT
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Reach needs an accurate mid-range weapon. The BR fits that role.

  • 10.14.2009 5:28 AM PDT
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One word: Carbine

And in more detail... I believe that the Carbine requires more skill to use, since it depends on your aiming skill more than a BR does (must pull trigger as fast as possible and aim at the same time)

  • 10.14.2009 5:35 AM PDT

I am The Sapphire Knight

You know what I'm just repost what I said in Halo or COD thread.

"BR lovers claim that it is the only weapon that requires skill, but I just don't think that is true.

A truly skilled player is one who can pick up any weapon around them and be successful with it. A truly great player is one who is not a one-trick pony. I'm not saying that that you can't be a good player if you are proficient one gun in particular. You can be a great sniper or a great driver you just shouldn't put down others for choosing to wield other weapons when you choose to use the best all around weapon in the game whether it is the BR in Halo 3 or the MP40 in CoD WaW.

The problem is that right now not many other weapons besides the BR and Carbine can really fight back effectively against a BR or Carbine.

AR:clip is too shallow and too inaccurate when compared to the BR
Needler: useless unless you hit them with all 7 needles
Magnum: fires too slowly and has an unforgiving magazine.
Spiker: Spikes move too slowly and drop down too fast to be used at any range farther than point-blank.
PP: 26 shots to kill and travels slowly. Its more of a tool then a weapon.
PR: Again, plasma travels slowly and has a very hard time finishing off unshielded foes."

Being able to use a BR does not mean you are skilled. The BR is the best gun in the game with very few negative qualities. If it's in Reach it has to be changed somehow because in Halo 3 it is a terrible starting weapon. A balanced starting weapon is one that allows the player to defend themselves against most threats but still encourages people to use other weapons. The BR doesn't encourage players to use any other weapons and as a result most MM games end up being just a bunch of people running around with BRs and nothing else.

There should only be one starting weapon in Reach and I think it should be similar the ODST SMG.

  • 10.14.2009 7:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: WerepyreND
You know what I'm just repost what I said in Halo or COD thread.

"BR lovers claim that it is the only weapon that requires skill, but I just don't think that is true.

A truly skilled player is one who can pick up any weapon around them and be successful with it. A truly great player is one who is not a one-trick pony. I'm not saying that that you can't be a good player if you are proficient one gun in particular. You can be a great sniper or a great driver you just shouldn't put down others for choosing to wield other weapons when you choose to use the best all around weapon in the game whether it is the BR in Halo 3 or the MP40 in CoD WaW.

The problem is that right now not many other weapons besides the BR and Carbine can really fight back effectively against a BR or Carbine.

AR:clip is too shallow and too inaccurate when compared to the BR
Needler: useless unless you hit them with all 7 needles
Magnum: fires too slowly and has an unforgiving magazine.
Spiker: Spikes move too slowly and drop down too fast to be used at any range farther than point-blank.
PP: 26 shots to kill and travels slowly. Its more of a tool then a weapon.
PR: Again, plasma travels slowly and has a very hard time finishing off unshielded foes."

Being able to use a BR does not mean you are skilled. The BR is the best gun in the game with very few negative qualities. If it's in Reach it has to be changed somehow because in Halo 3 it is a terrible starting weapon. A balanced starting weapon is one that allows the player to defend themselves against most threats but still encourages people to use other weapons. The BR doesn't encourage players to use any other weapons and as a result most MM games end up being just a bunch of people running around with BRs and nothing else.

There should only be one starting weapon in Reach and I think it should be similar the ODST SMG.


*like and agree* except for last statement about we need the odst smgs


To add to this,if they follow the books on this one which I think to a certain extent they will, then we should see alot of really cool older guns in game, these could easily replace br

  • 10.14.2009 7:26 AM PDT

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Well if the story line in reach goes as far as the spartans trapped under Castle than no. Beacuse Fred and Isaac find a crate full of em in the armory.

  • 10.14.2009 7:34 AM PDT

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Did it destroy ODST? No.

  • 10.14.2009 8:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: Burned Remains
No, the Covenant will.


haha!

[Edited on 10.14.2009 8:44 AM PDT]

  • 10.14.2009 8:44 AM PDT

The BR is a poor replacement for the pistol from CE, and that's all it is. Losing the pistol did not destroy Halo 3 and then the lack of a BR (itself replace by the suppressed pistol and smg) did not destroy ODST.

I won't count Halo 2 because I never liked that game even a little bit. I'll be disappointed if they don't bring the CE pistol back for Reach but then I've been disappointed there three times in a row. They'll either make a decent replacement or they won't, but the BR wasn't developed yet so they can't use that one.

[Edited on 10.14.2009 8:48 AM PDT]

  • 10.14.2009 8:47 AM PDT
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  • 10.14.2009 8:54 AM PDT
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no did the lack of it ruin H1 and 0DST? no

M2E OP is a BRfanboy >_<

  • 10.14.2009 8:59 AM PDT

Lols. Way to be a sheep OP.

  • 10.14.2009 9:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: Crisp66


*like and agree* except for last statement about we need the odst smgs


To add to this,if they follow the books on this one which I think to a certain extent they will, then we should see alot of really cool older guns in game, these could easily replace br


I just meant I would like something similar to it. A scoped automatic weapon that does not do headshots

  • 10.14.2009 9:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: Shai Hulud
Did it destroy ODST? No.

ODST was good but everyone is saying it gets boring. The reason? NO BATTLE RIFLE!!!

  • 10.14.2009 9:28 AM PDT

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Put it in the campaign at a few different points and put it in MP. If you like it..use it...if you dont then dont...

  • 10.14.2009 9:30 AM PDT

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  • 10.14.2009 9:33 AM PDT

Posted by: Burned Remains
No, the Covenant will.


LOL.

anyway why would it? If there is no BR in reach they will just replace it with a new all-round weapon. I would like whole new set of weapons.

  • 10.14.2009 9:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: minibum
How do we seperate the failures from the pro skilled players?


I don't see much of a difference between the two.

  • 10.14.2009 9:42 AM PDT

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Posted by: Shai Hulud
Did it destroy ODST? No.

ODST was good but everyone is saying it gets boring. The reason? NO BATTLE RIFLE!!!


Wow. Just wow. Your logic amazes me.

  • 10.14.2009 9:44 AM PDT

BYAHH

Posted by: minibum
Yes, yes it will. We need BR. How do we seperate the failures from the pro skilled players?


By looking at people who win without the most obviously overpowered weapon in the game.

  • 10.14.2009 9:46 AM PDT

BYAHH

Posted by: minibum
Posted by: Shai Hulud
Did it destroy ODST? No.

ODST was good but everyone is saying it gets boring. The reason? NO BATTLE RIFLE!!!


Or no matchmaking.

  • 10.14.2009 9:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Shai Hulud
Did it destroy ODST? No.


ODST's player vs player matchmaking was so much more balanced because there was no BR, wasnt it?

Oh, wait...


On a serious note: Im not taking sides here, im sure Bungie can balance things with or without the BR.

  • 10.14.2009 10:02 AM PDT