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Subject: CTF flag bouncing

Spartan119 the Red Raven.
"So officer tell me how it feels to be at the wrong end of that barrel?"

capture the flag is a great game type and theres so much fun to be had. however theres one thing that just breaks my heart and the game when it happens.

flag bouncing.

you know when the dude carrying the flag drops and then picks up and drops and picks up and drops and picks up etc etc etc the flag? not only is it EXTREMELY ANNOYING but it ruins the game making it exeedingly hard to catch the flag and even then to return it.



the porblem originates from when u drop the flag it goes infront of u a bit. this combined with a 360 radius in witch u can grab the flag make flag bouncing possible.

an easy solution is thus. have the flag drop straight down practically right infront or the player model and remove flag inertia, just in front of there toes. second have it so only if the flag is infront of the player (like 180 degrees) and a short range (like the melee lung range) will u be able to pick it up.

bungie this is something that really hurts CTF as a gametype and ruins the fun in playing it.

please hear me and address the problem.

update..

some ideas that people have come up with are thus.
1.having the player retain there slow speed for short duration after they drop the flag therefore defeating the purpose.
2.being unable to pick up a flag until 2 seconds or so after it has been droped.
3.remove flag inertia and constric flag pickup radius

[Edited on 10.16.2009 10:11 PM PDT]

  • 10.16.2009 6:53 AM PDT
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Flag running is a legitimate tactic, it's not annoying and doesn't hurt the CTF gametype.

  • 10.16.2009 6:56 AM PDT

It also gives away their position. But its a trade off

  • 10.16.2009 6:57 AM PDT

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ummm ok??? its not that much of a problem plus every time the flag is dropped you can see where they currently have the flag so its both an advantage and disadvantage to the flag carrier

  • 10.16.2009 6:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Redraven1992
I'm a Noob


Because u suck in CTF,is Flag bouncing a problem? xD
Get practice...

  • 10.16.2009 6:58 AM PDT

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I hate to disagree but it is a good tactic. It also has its disadvantages though, You know where the flag is.

  • 10.16.2009 6:58 AM PDT

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Posted by: Hayabusawarrior
It also gives away their position. But its a trade off

  • 10.16.2009 7:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: Hayabusawarrior
It also gives away their position. But its a trade off

  • 10.16.2009 8:02 AM PDT

Spartan119 the Red Raven.
"So officer tell me how it feels to be at the wrong end of that barrel?"

1 i am not a noob
2 ya it gives away there possition but on a map like last resort or high ground u dont have time to catch them anyways because they move to fast and to far for u to stop them.

even if u do its so close to there spawn and to far from youres so they just continue the pull and get away.

this is just something id like fixed in reach, if that makes me a noob for disliking this then whatever

  • 10.16.2009 8:09 AM PDT

"Oho, I'm a PrO sKiLlEd MLG pLaYa who flag runs, so I'm going to disagree with this guy cause I can't score the flag any other way".
Stop the BS please people. It cheats the system. When you're holding the flag you run slower in the default Halo 3 gametypes. Sure call both of us "noobs" (look up the definition of "newb" for me would you) but that doesn't change the situation. It just makes you feel better about yourselves. I personally agree with the OP and think that flag running should be abolished in Reach.

[Edited on 10.16.2009 8:21 AM PDT]

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Posted by: MLD ShortStuff
"Oho, I'm a PrO sKiLlEd MLG pLaYa who flag runs, so I'm going to disagree with this guy cause I can't score the flag any other way".
Stop the BS please people. It cheats the system. When you're holding the flag you run slower in the default Halo 3 gametypes. Sure call both of us "noobs" (look up the definition of "newb" for me would you) but that doesn't change the situation. It just makes you feel better about yourselves. I personally agree with the OP and think that flag running should be abolished in Reach.


its not cheating stupid kid.
It takes skill.

[Edited on 10.16.2009 8:23 AM PDT]

  • 10.16.2009 8:21 AM PDT

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As MLD said, if you move slow with the flag then it obviously means your only supposed to go that fast. One tactic would be having a 2 second timer on dropping an objective and picking it up again.

  • 10.16.2009 8:23 AM PDT

Spartan119 the Red Raven.
"So officer tell me how it feels to be at the wrong end of that barrel?"

thank u short stuff.
what skill pressing 2 buttons over and over again in order to move at normal speed? while ure looking up noob for him look up skill for me. it would do u good to know what that actually means.

[Edited on 10.16.2009 8:32 AM PDT]

  • 10.16.2009 8:25 AM PDT

Spartan119 the Red Raven.
"So officer tell me how it feels to be at the wrong end of that barrel?"

Posted by: Ultimono
As MLD said, if you move slow with the flag then it obviously means your only supposed to go that fast. One tactic would be having a 2 second timer on dropping an objective and picking it up again.


this would also work thanks for the support

  • 10.16.2009 8:26 AM PDT
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Posted by: MLD ShortStuff
"Oho, I'm a PrO sKiLlEd MLG pLaYa who flag runs, so I'm going to disagree with this guy cause I can't score the flag any other way".
Stop the BS please people. It cheats the system. When you're holding the flag you run slower in the default Halo 3 gametypes. Sure call both of us "noobs" (look up the definition of "newb" for me would you) but that doesn't change the situation. It just makes you feel better about yourselves. I personally agree with the OP and think that flag running should be abolished in Reach.

agreed it needs to be fixed its annoying as hell

  • 10.16.2009 8:30 AM PDT

In response to Mr. WhatsHisFace (Halo2Jumper or whatever) up top:
So, I'm not "skilled" because I find that a certain tactic is unfair and so I don't use it?
Edit here we go the two definitions asked for in this topic:
Noob: Noun: 1. someone who is new to a group, place, activity, etc.
Skill: Noun: 1. the ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well.

[Edited on 10.16.2009 8:40 AM PDT]

  • 10.16.2009 8:35 AM PDT

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Learn to use the tactic instead of crying that you can't use it. Easy as that.

  • 10.16.2009 8:41 AM PDT

Spartan119 the Red Raven.
"So officer tell me how it feels to be at the wrong end of that barrel?"

Posted by: CorvetteHalo3
Learn to use the tactic instead of crying that you can't use it. Easy as that.


oh i can do it, its not that hard. just like i can use the BR i still think the BR is overpowered and shouldn't be in the game.

now to u this makes me look like a 13 year old baby that cant deal with all u tough men. well i'm not i just think these things ruin the game, for me and for other people who don't want to rely on cheap tricks to win the day.

[Edited on 10.16.2009 9:00 AM PDT]

  • 10.16.2009 8:59 AM PDT

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Because the flag is so heavy it slows you down, it should dig into ground when it's dropped. You need to stop to pull it up.

No one can like the "Flag dropped-stolen-dropped-stolen"-choir. But the announcement has to stay because it's informative and the voice is so cool.

Anyone can do it, forward+jump+RT+RB, but it's like spawn camping.

  • 10.16.2009 9:00 AM PDT

Exactly Raven. I could flag run. use the Br all the time, and rocket whore, but I don't want to. That doesn't make me non skilled at the game, it just means that I find that certain tactics or weapons are unjust and so I choose not to use them.

  • 10.16.2009 9:01 AM PDT

I'm out.

Posted by: MLD ShortStuff

Stop the BS please people. It cheats the system. When you're holding the flag you run slower in the default Halo 3 gametypes. Sure call both of us "noobs" (look up the definition of "newb" for me would you) but that doesn't change the situation. It just makes you feel better about yourselves. I personally agree with the OP and think that flag running should be abolished in Reach.


It's obvious that you aren't supposed to kill people by shotting them with an AR and then beating down. The AR is a gun not a hammer. If they wanted us shooting and then beating down with it, they would have spikes on the weapon, like the brute shot.

  • 10.16.2009 9:04 AM PDT

Spartan119 the Red Raven.
"So officer tell me how it feels to be at the wrong end of that barrel?"

exactly just like spawn camping and rocket whoring. i CAN do it i just choose not to cause it would make me a major -blam!- or even worse more like the MLG crowd.

  • 10.16.2009 9:05 AM PDT

Oh, smart ass, eh? Fine. They implemented the beat down function on every gun in the game. Voila. The two cases are completely different in any case. The beat down was mean to be in the game and flag running is an exploit that wasn't meant to be in it.

  • 10.16.2009 9:06 AM PDT

its a tactic but an extremely annoying one that makes ny ears bleed--flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, etc.

[Edited on 10.16.2009 9:14 AM PDT]

  • 10.16.2009 9:13 AM PDT

Spartan119 the Red Raven.
"So officer tell me how it feels to be at the wrong end of that barrel?"


It's obvious that you aren't supposed to kill people by shotting them with an AR and then beating down. The AR is a gun not a hammer. If they wanted us shooting and then beating down with it, they would have spikes on the weapon, like the brute shot.


really?
but what about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FM21DQ3PWs
start watching about 4:30 and ull see sir that bungie proves u wrong

[Edited on 10.16.2009 9:34 AM PDT]

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