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Subject: CTF flag bouncing

now he fights and loses
got all the bruises
will someone please step in?

without talking -blam!- on anyone else... I'm not a fan of flag bouncing. Glitch or not, thats for bungie to decide, but I personally find it a little bit cheap. More importantly however, Its really annoying. Flag dropped, flag taken, etc. It gets old quick, and it does seem to defeat the purpose of having the flag go slow.

  • 10.17.2009 2:52 PM PDT
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lol... bk!

  • 10.17.2009 7:11 PM PDT

Posted by: BarroomHero
without talking -blam!- on anyone else... I'm not a fan of flag bouncing. Glitch or not, thats for bungie to decide, but I personally find it a little bit cheap. More importantly however, Its really annoying. Flag dropped, flag taken, etc. It gets old quick, and it does seem to defeat the purpose of having the flag go slow.



out of the whole arugement of this thread all you could come up is that it is cheap. plus you threw in the the announcer as well

/facepalm

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You know, this whole thing reminds of the button glitches ordeal from Halo 2. At first, it's looked down upon. Then, it becomes widely used. And when the question comes up about it's "fairness", if you will, the proponents claim:

A) It makes the game more competitive.
B) MLG uses it
C) You suck if you complain about it
D) All of the above

Now of course, button glitches were glitches and flag running really isn't, but the mentality of both sides, more specifically the proponents, is the same.

Then again, some people still think that button glitches were not glitches, and that they were intentionally put in Halo 2 by Bungie. *sigh*

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  • 10.17.2009 10:53 PM PDT

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You know, this whole thing reminds of the button glitches ordeal from Halo 2. At first, it's looked down upon. Then, it becomes widely used. And when the question comes up about it's "fairness", if you will, the proponents claim:

A) It makes the game more competitive.
B) MLG uses it
C) You suck if you complain about it
D) All of the above

Now of course, button glitches were glitches and flag running really isn't, but the mentality of both sides, more specifically the proponents, is the same.

Then again, some people still think that button glitches were not glitches, and that they were intentionally put in Halo 2 by Bungie. *sigh*


I would choose A)
and another option
It increases the pace of the game

  • 10.17.2009 11:03 PM PDT

Personally, I love hearing the announcer repeating the lines over and over again. It gets my heart racing.

  • 10.17.2009 11:44 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

but it ruins the game making it exeedingly hard to catch the flag and even then to return it.
It gives away their position, if your complaining that its harder to get them when the flag juggle then you just suck.

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  • 10.17.2009 11:53 PM PDT

The only claim that has ever made any sense against flag running has been the potential annoyance factor of the announcer. Now this is far from enough of a reason to remove what I believe to be a very excellent component of competitive CTF.

Perhaps there should be a system similar to the mongoose horn limit. If you honk the horn alot it eventually stops. Perhaps there should only be a certain number of times the announcer speaks within a given period of time.

  • 10.18.2009 12:24 AM PDT

I personally love the sound of the announcer repeating himself 100 times it makes me laugh a little. But yes a speech limit on the announcer would be nice for those who dislike it. But besides the speech issue, I dont see any issue with the tactic of "flag running." Lets face it there is times we need to move a little faster with the flag in order to really ensure that we obtain the flag.
But if the tactic it self truly annoys you then why CTF games. Any advent videogamer will use any tactic he/she can to gain and edge over his/her enemies. It might be a favorite hiding spot or in this case flag running but either way, it should be understood that this a game and its not as if flag running make you 100x times faster then normal running speed which makes it impossible to catch the flag runner.

  • 10.18.2009 12:42 AM PDT

OK, first of all, all the idiots saying flag running should be taken out sound retarded, especially the ones who simply come back with "you're argument doesn't make any sense come back with logic" or some retarded crap like that. Honestly I didn't pay too much attention to their post sense it was basically just full of -blam!-ry anyways.

Listen up. The tradeoff is fine... You touch the flag, you run slow, you drop it, you run fast. Simple as that. It's not "unbalanced", so stop making yourself sound like an idiot by saying it is. If it was unbalanced, then only one team would be able to do it or something along those lines. Both teams have equal opportunities to "flag run".

Also, YOU PEOPLE ACT LIKE IT MAKES YOU INCREDIBLY FAST. IT DOESN'T. You run at a normal speed when you're not touching it. I remember some retard a few pages back said some retarded -blam!- like you wouldn't even need your team to pull the flag and BAM be out of their base in no time.

Sorry dude, but you're even more retarded than most of these guys.

I'd love to see you play anyone who is HALFWAY decent at this game and get away with that. In fact, don't even grab the flag so it won't slow you down for those few seconds that you're touching it when you run it. Just try walking straight into their base and back out and see how long you survive.

Seriously, what a -blam!- idiot.

Oh, not to mention half the time you see retards in the MLG Playlist fumble the flag when they're running it. Half the idiots who say it's "sooooo easy to do" probably fumble it (unless they have host, it's incredibly easy to do on LAN/Host) all the time anyways.

As a few somewhat intelligent individuals brought up but failed to keep going, the tradeoff for stealth vs. speed is fine.

What's that? Did you just spew more retarded crap out of your mouth? Oh, you're saying that Bungie didn't intend for it to be in the game?

Look idiots, bungie has known about flag running since Halo 2. They aren't retarded, so if they didn't want it in the game then YES they probably would have done something. This isn't certain, true, but highly unlikely.

Oh get ready for this part -blam!-s, it's going to get ugly.

I see some kids say the BR is sooooo overpowered and unbalanced, waahahhahahhhhhh.

Shut the -blam!- up, sit the -blam!- down, and listen.

I challenge any of you kids that think the BR is so overpowered to a 1v1 where I won't EVER pick up a BR and you can have all the BR's you want.

All you idiots need to do is pick the right -blam!- weapon for the situation and use it without completely sucking a fat dick. Seriously, close range? BR get's destroyed. Long range? Most people can't hit -blam!- and if they do they won't hit enough to kill you before you find cover. Mid range? DING DING DING!!!! Guess what the right weapon here is, idiots? That's -blam!- right, the BR!!!!! BUT WAIT. NEWS -blam!- FLASH: EVEN AT MEDIUM RANGE THERE ARE WEAPONS THAT BEAT THE BR!!! If you didn't completely suck a fat dick at this game you'd finally realize "hmmmmmmm, maybe I should only challenge kids close range when I have shotgun/AR instead of running at them from medium range whilst chucking grenades with AR's ablazin'.

Look, quit running out in the open if you think BR's are so overpowered. Quit -blam!-ing about spawn camping when it's your own retarded ass fault for getting in that position in the first place. Quit -blam!-ing about the game, because it's fine the way it is, and the sooner you realize it the sooner you'll enjoy it more.

Seriously, you idiot kids disgust me. Learn to play before you talk, because you just end up sounding like a -blam!-.

P.S. There was some guy a few pages back who said that the BR makes half the weapons useless, taking away "half the fun".

GREAT LOGIC BRO! So like, I'm sure if they took out the BR and then DOUBLED the amount of weapons, I could have like, FOUR TIMES THE FUN I'M HAVING NOW, RIGHT?

-blam!- idiot.

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It's not a horrible element for the game, but I'm sure it can be fixed without any problems.

  • 10.18.2009 2:02 AM PDT

Almost a ghost.

I hate it. Even if they were able to disable the voice commentary I'd be fine with it. It's just dire to listen to.

Edit: I meant a limit (:

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  • 10.18.2009 2:45 AM PDT

Posted by: II Examine II
OK, first of all, all the idiots saying flag running should be taken out sound retarded, especially the ones who simply come back with "you're argument doesn't make any sense come back with logic" or some retarded crap like that. Honestly I didn't pay too much attention to their post sense it was basically just full of -blam!-ry anyways.

Listen up. The tradeoff is fine... You touch the flag, you run slow, you drop it, you run fast. Simple as that. It's not "unbalanced", so stop making yourself sound like an idiot by saying it is. If it was unbalanced, then only one team would be able to do it or something along those lines. Both teams have equal opportunities to "flag run".

Also, YOU PEOPLE ACT LIKE IT MAKES YOU INCREDIBLY FAST. IT DOESN'T. You run at a normal speed when you're not touching it. I remember some retard a few pages back said some retarded -blam!- like you wouldn't even need your team to pull the flag and BAM be out of their base in no time.

Sorry dude, but you're even more retarded than most of these guys.

I'd love to see you play anyone who is HALFWAY decent at this game and get away with that. In fact, don't even grab the flag so it won't slow you down for those few seconds that you're touching it when you run it. Just try walking straight into their base and back out and see how long you survive.

Seriously, what a -blam!- idiot.

Oh, not to mention half the time you see retards in the MLG Playlist fumble the flag when they're running it. Half the idiots who say it's "sooooo easy to do" probably fumble it (unless they have host, it's incredibly easy to do on LAN/Host) all the time anyways.

As a few somewhat intelligent individuals brought up but failed to keep going, the tradeoff for stealth vs. speed is fine.

What's that? Did you just spew more retarded crap out of your mouth? Oh, you're saying that Bungie didn't intend for it to be in the game?

Look idiots, bungie has known about flag running since Halo 2. They aren't retarded, so if they didn't want it in the game then YES they probably would have done something. This isn't certain, true, but highly unlikely.

Oh get ready for this part -blam!-s, it's going to get ugly.

I see some kids say the BR is sooooo overpowered and unbalanced, waahahhahahhhhhh.

Shut the -blam!- up, sit the -blam!- down, and listen.

I challenge any of you kids that think the BR is so overpowered to a 1v1 where I won't EVER pick up a BR and you can have all the BR's you want.

All you idiots need to do is pick the right -blam!- weapon for the situation and use it without completely sucking a fat dick. Seriously, close range? BR get's destroyed. Long range? Most people can't hit -blam!- and if they do they won't hit enough to kill you before you find cover. Mid range? DING DING DING!!!! Guess what the right weapon here is, idiots? That's -blam!- right, the BR!!!!! BUT WAIT. NEWS -blam!- FLASH: EVEN AT MEDIUM RANGE THERE ARE WEAPONS THAT BEAT THE BR!!! If you didn't completely suck a fat dick at this game you'd finally realize "hmmmmmmm, maybe I should only challenge kids close range when I have shotgun/AR instead of running at them from medium range whilst chucking grenades with AR's ablazin'.

Look, quit running out in the open if you think BR's are so overpowered. Quit -blam!-ing about spawn camping when it's your own retarded ass fault for getting in that position in the first place. Quit -blam!-ing about the game, because it's fine the way it is, and the sooner you realize it the sooner you'll enjoy it more.

Seriously, you idiot kids disgust me. Learn to play before you talk, because you just end up sounding like a -blam!-.

P.S. There was some guy a few pages back who said that the BR makes half the weapons useless, taking away "half the fun".

GREAT LOGIC BRO! So like, I'm sure if they took out the BR and then DOUBLED the amount of weapons, I could have like, FOUR TIMES THE FUN I'M HAVING NOW, RIGHT?

-blam!- idiot.


Im with you on this, but calm down, its a game. No reason to through a hissy fit...

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Posted by: II Examine II
OK, first of all, all the idiots saying flag running should be taken out sound retarded, especially the ones who simply come back with "you're argument doesn't make any sense come back with logic" or some retarded crap like that. Honestly I didn't pay too much attention to their post sense it was basically just full of -blam!-ry anyways.

Listen up. The tradeoff is fine... You touch the flag, you run slow, you drop it, you run fast. Simple as that. It's not "unbalanced", so stop making yourself sound like an idiot by saying it is. If it was unbalanced, then only one team would be able to do it or something along those lines. Both teams have equal opportunities to "flag run".

Also, YOU PEOPLE ACT LIKE IT MAKES YOU INCREDIBLY FAST. IT DOESN'T. You run at a normal speed when you're not touching it. I remember some retard a few pages back said some retarded -blam!- like you wouldn't even need your team to pull the flag and BAM be out of their base in no time.

Sorry dude, but you're even more retarded than most of these guys.

I'd love to see you play anyone who is HALFWAY decent at this game and get away with that. In fact, don't even grab the flag so it won't slow you down for those few seconds that you're touching it when you run it. Just try walking straight into their base and back out and see how long you survive.

Seriously, what a -blam!- idiot.

Oh, not to mention half the time you see retards in the MLG Playlist fumble the flag when they're running it. Half the idiots who say it's "sooooo easy to do" probably fumble it (unless they have host, it's incredibly easy to do on LAN/Host) all the time anyways.

As a few somewhat intelligent individuals brought up but failed to keep going, the tradeoff for stealth vs. speed is fine.

What's that? Did you just spew more retarded crap out of your mouth? Oh, you're saying that Bungie didn't intend for it to be in the game?

Look idiots, bungie has known about flag running since Halo 2. They aren't retarded, so if they didn't want it in the game then YES they probably would have done something. This isn't certain, true, but highly unlikely.

Oh get ready for this part -blam!-s, it's going to get ugly.

I see some kids say the BR is sooooo overpowered and unbalanced, waahahhahahhhhhh.

Shut the -blam!- up, sit the -blam!- down, and listen.

I challenge any of you kids that think the BR is so overpowered to a 1v1 where I won't EVER pick up a BR and you can have all the BR's you want.

All you idiots need to do is pick the right -blam!- weapon for the situation and use it without completely sucking a fat dick. Seriously, close range? BR get's destroyed. Long range? Most people can't hit -blam!- and if they do they won't hit enough to kill you before you find cover. Mid range? DING DING DING!!!! Guess what the right weapon here is, idiots? That's -blam!- right, the BR!!!!! BUT WAIT. NEWS -blam!- FLASH: EVEN AT MEDIUM RANGE THERE ARE WEAPONS THAT BEAT THE BR!!! If you didn't completely suck a fat dick at this game you'd finally realize "hmmmmmmm, maybe I should only challenge kids close range when I have shotgun/AR instead of running at them from medium range whilst chucking grenades with AR's ablazin'.

Look, quit running out in the open if you think BR's are so overpowered. Quit -blam!-ing about spawn camping when it's your own retarded ass fault for getting in that position in the first place. Quit -blam!-ing about the game, because it's fine the way it is, and the sooner you realize it the sooner you'll enjoy it more.

Seriously, you idiot kids disgust me. Learn to play before you talk, because you just end up sounding like a -blam!-.

P.S. There was some guy a few pages back who said that the BR makes half the weapons useless, taking away "half the fun".

GREAT LOGIC BRO! So like, I'm sure if they took out the BR and then DOUBLED the amount of weapons, I could have like, FOUR TIMES THE FUN I'M HAVING NOW, RIGHT?

-blam!- idiot.


Did you really jus drop a wall of text...on this guy? Perhaps you should lay of the candy...or that X-rated material.

OT: I personally have no problem with flag running. Ever get into an intense 3-3 lock on Onslaught with the opposing team running a flag with 30 seconds left? Sure gets the heart pumping.

  • 10.18.2009 3:57 AM PDT

I had heard rumors of these forums. This thread saddens me because now I know that the majority voice bungie makes takes it's ideas from... are retarted. Not all of you but seriously complaining about flag running?
It's been around since forever and you want to -blam!- about a simple skill that makes you fun at a regular pace? If you cant catch up shoot a person in the back. Or play a map with multiple paths like pit or narrows.
And I'm not even gonna start on the "br is overpowered and should be taken out of the game" comment. Because you sir should shove your head in a toilet, and drown yourself while aving someone simultaniously having someone smash your head in with the seat.

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Posted by: Bad Wolf Claw
Flag running is a legitimate tactic, it's not annoying and doesn't hurt the CTF gametype.


You have just admitted to doing it.

I agree it should be ditched, it does ruin the game.
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  • 10.18.2009 5:11 AM PDT

Posted by: Kalriq
Posted by: Bad Wolf Claw
Flag running is a legitimate tactic, it's not annoying and doesn't hurt the CTF gametype.


You have just admitted to doing it.

I agree it should be ditched, it does ruin the game.
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How tho? So many people say it ruins the game, but they never give a reason.

And please dont say "The voice is annoying" thats not a good reason at all, plus im sure thats what the volume controls are for on your TVs.

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Flag Bouncing is a legitimate tactic.

However, I wish that it wouldn't constantly say "FLAG DROPPED FLAG STOLEN FLAG DROPPED FLAG STOLEN" all of the time. That's the only thing that I want sorted, really.

  • 10.18.2009 5:24 AM PDT

How anyone in the world could be as stupid as the OP/some people in this thread is beyond me.

  • 10.18.2009 5:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: Bad Wolf Claw
Flag running is a legitimate tactic, it's not annoying and doesn't hurt the CTF gametype.

Regardless of whether you think its fair or not its still abusing an exploit in the game just like double tapping in halo 2. Best just take the flag from your team mate if he tries it.

  • 10.18.2009 5:50 AM PDT

I miss the days of Halo 2.

Remove the physics of the flag? xD

  • 10.18.2009 6:47 AM PDT

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annoying? maybe for a person who JUST started playing halo. I was playing with some friends the otehr day and they havent really played much if any h3 and when i started running the flag they made a comment about how the announcer was going crazy, i realized i didn't even notice the announcer was talking.

Flag running is perfect, u give away your position in order to go slightly faster. As far as the annoyingness of it, maybe they can change how the announcer says stuff and they can almost put in a way of detecting flag running. You remove flag running, you will remove part of what makes ctf on halo great.

  • 10.18.2009 7:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: Bad Wolf Claw
Flag running is a legitimate tactic, it's not annoying and doesn't hurt the CTF gametype.

Regardless of whether you think its fair or not its still abusing an exploit in the game just like double tapping in halo 2. Best just take the flag from your team mate if he tries it.


using the physics of the flag that bungie put in the game is considered exploiting now? next time i launch a rocket at a guy and it gets deflected by a nade exploding ill tell make sure i tell him he's exploiting

sorry for double...

[Edited on 10.18.2009 7:31 AM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 7:30 AM PDT