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  • Subject: CTF flag bouncing

Posted by: camnator
Anyone that drops and picks up repeatedly will find me making the team lose because they annoy me with that annoying repeating announcer, I steal the flag and walk it back to the enemy base, everytime.


Then you are no better than anyone that team kills you in matchmaking and costs you a game for any reason they choose.

  • 10.19.2009 3:06 PM PDT
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I Release Brown On The Floor Then They Slip And Fall Causing Them To Die Then I Pick Up The Flag And Run It Back To Enemy Base.

  • 10.19.2009 3:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: camnator
Anyone that drops and picks up repeatedly will find me making the team lose because they annoy me with that annoying repeating announcer, I steal the flag and walk it back to the enemy base, everytime.

I find that griefers like this are the kind of people who oppose things like flag tossing. Thank you for making me feel a lot better about my opinion. :)

  • 10.19.2009 3:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: SMGstrings
Posted by: TriggerHappyNDB
I'd like to see it removed in Reach. It would make the game more tactically appealing in the sense of building group dynamics and protecting the flag carrier.


That was a nice nonsensical way of saying "it will slow down gameplay, and become less appealing to competitive gamers."

I'm sorry you couldn't make sense of my statement... I meant that I would enjoy seeing the role of carrier-protector fleshed out by making it so the carrier wasn't quite as quick through use of the "flag bouncing" thing. I consider myself a competitive gamer and that sort of thing is actually more appealing to me. Much of this argument really depends upon your playstyle--I don't mind slowing things down in this case since it allows for more, different challenge. Not everything has to be at breakneck speeds for me to enjoy myself (granted, Unreal Tournament was some good times).

I wouldn't deny that some will like it better than others, but this topic wouldn't really exist if that wasn't already the case, anyway!

  • 10.19.2009 3:09 PM PDT

Posted by: C Dirty 4
Reach essentially has put the "I" in "Team".


Remember, the enemy's gate is down

Posted by: camnator
Posted by: SMGstrings
Posted by: camnator
Anyone that drops and picks up repeatedly will find me making the team lose because they annoy me with that annoying repeating announcer, I steal the flag and walk it back to the enemy base, everytime.


Then you are no better than anyone that team kills you in matchmaking and costs you a game for any reason they choose.


Well, I could care less if I win or lose, I play for fun, and if the game starts to annoy me, then they will be punished.


OMG STOP HELPING MY TEAM WIN ASS.


*initiate 12 year old tantrum followed by team killing*

I'm really glad Halo3 is populated by little children like you.

  • 10.19.2009 3:10 PM PDT

I don't want to join your group.

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Posted by: camnator
Well, needless to say, if you're teamed with me and do it, I hope you don't mind losing, because that's what I do.

Oh, I won't be teamed with you, I'm sure of that.

  • 10.19.2009 3:14 PM PDT

Posted by: camnator
Well, needless to say, if you're teamed with me and do it, I hope you don't mind losing, because that's what I do.


I like how you've already noticed how childish you are being, but you don't have the maturity (due to the predetermined childishness) to accept you are in the wrong and change your behavior.

  • 10.19.2009 3:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: camnator
Posted by: SilentStorm20
Posted by: camnator
Anyone that drops and picks up repeatedly will find me making the team lose because they annoy me with that annoying repeating announcer, I steal the flag and walk it back to the enemy base, everytime.

I find that griefers like this are the kind of people who oppose things like flag tossing. Thank you for making me feel a lot better about my opinion. :)


Well, needless to say, if you're teamed with me and do it, I hope you don't mind losing, because that's what I do.

wow thats cool turn down the volume to your tv instead of being a complete douche bag to your teammates

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I think someone is mad because they can't flag bounce very well, hmm?

  • 10.19.2009 3:29 PM PDT

completely viable tactic. they go a little faster however they are exposed the whole time they are doing it, making it fair.

Plus they want you to be able to throw the flag so you can pass it to teammates.

The only real thing you would be accomplishing by removing it would be making the game more one dimensional.

  • 10.19.2009 3:54 PM PDT

Posted by: Bad Wolf Claw
Flag running is a legitimate tactic, it's not annoying and doesn't hurt the CTF gametype.

Yes they should take it out. It will make people depend on their teammates more and get rid of the random information the announcer yells out constantly.

  • 10.19.2009 4:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: halo2jumper
its not cheating stupid kid.
It takes skill.

Don't lie. I taught my youngest brother who is ten to flag bounce. All you do is move forward while pressing B over and over again.


[Edited on 10.19.2009 4:03 PM PDT]

  • 10.19.2009 4:03 PM PDT

Posted by: C Dirty 4
Reach essentially has put the "I" in "Team".


Remember, the enemy's gate is down

Posted by: XxNICO SNIPESxX
Posted by: halo2jumper
its not cheating stupid kid.
It takes skill.

Don't lie. I taught my youngest brother who is ten to flag bounce. All you do is move forward while pressing B over and over again.


....and thanks for proving his point...

  • 10.19.2009 4:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: II hyer II
completely viable tactic. they go a little faster however they are exposed the whole time they are doing it, making it fair.

Plus they want you to be able to throw the flag so you can pass it to teammates.

The only real thing you would be accomplishing by removing it would be making the game more one dimensional.



No one is saying that you shouldn't be able to throw the flag. We all want to be able to throw the flag to team mates on a high ledge or whatever. We just don't want flag running in the game because it was never intended to be in the game. The whole point of the flag guy moving really slow is that he is vulnerable and the other team can catch up.

People argue that when you flag run you ar announcing your position to everyone and that is a downside. Really??? When have you ever been in a game when you didn't know at least what part of the map or what path the flag was being taken??? I have never not known where the flag was going and Halo maps are not big. There is only like 3 ways to take a flag on any map. Not to mention some maps are small.

The flag carrier is ment to run slow in order to give the defending team a chance to save their flag. Flag running is just like super bouncing, BXR, BXB, and Standby from Halo 2. It is a way to cheat the game to try and win. Flag running makes CTF on small maps lame. If I die defending the flag and the other team gets the flag and starts flag running they usualy get the flag half way accross the map or more before I even respawn. It is an unfair exploitation of the game that cheapens the experience for people who play fair games.

I'm a legit 45. I NEVER flag run and still capture the flag because I am a better player. Use skill and not cheap -blam!- tactics.

  • 10.19.2009 10:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: SilentStorm20
Posted by: camnator
Well, needless to say, if you're teamed with me and do it, I hope you don't mind losing, because that's what I do.

Oh, I won't be teamed with you, I'm sure of that.

Because we all know how low your Team Flag skill is.

  • 10.19.2009 10:03 PM PDT

bungie has proven that a bunch of monkeys sitting in front of keyboards can randomly type out a masterpiece. the thing is, when you go to play the masterpiece, you cant help but notice all the monkey s**t smeared all over it.

it gets real old having to wait months for someone like mlg to clean off all the monkey poo.

Posted by: xAssault12x
We just don't want flag running in the game because it was never intended to be in the game. The whole point of the flag guy moving really slow is that he is vulnerable and the other team can catch up.


your absolutely right. every time i see my teams flag guy get on a mongoose or warthog, i teamkill him because that was never intended to be in the game. he knows hes supposed to move at 90% speed, and if he tries anything to go faster by exploiting the system, ill personally run the flag right back to their base, or toss it off the nearest cliff.

Posted by: xAssault12xI'm a legit 45. I NEVER flag run and still capture the flag because I am a better player. Use skill and not cheap -blam!- tactics.
i couldnt agree more. if a tactic is not immediately obvious, it must be an oversight on bungie's part and cheap.

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Posted by: xAssault12x

No one is saying that you shouldn't be able to throw the flag. We all want to be able to throw the flag to team mates on a high ledge or whatever. We just don't want flag running in the game because it was never intended to be in the game. The whole point of the flag guy moving really slow is that he is vulnerable and the other team can catch up.
How do you know that it wasn't intended? There is an obvious trade off, speed vs stealth. If Bungie felt it was an exploit and didn't want it in their game they would have removed it, flag running has been around since Halo CE.


People argue that when you flag run you ar announcing your position to everyone and that is a downside. Really??? When have you ever been in a game when you didn't know at least what part of the map or what path the flag was being taken??? I have never not known where the flag was going and Halo maps are not big. There is only like 3 ways to take a flag on any map. Not to mention some maps are small.
Which is exactly why juggling the flag is usually a better option than holding onto it. You can occasionally juke out the other team by not dropping it but that is rare. Juggling is almost always a better tactic which is why good teams employ it.


The flag carrier is ment to run slow in order to give the defending team a chance to save their flag. Flag running is just like super bouncing, BXR, BXB, and Standby from Halo 2. It is a way to cheat the game to try and win. Flag running makes CTF on small maps lame. If I die defending the flag and the other team gets the flag and starts flag running they usualy get the flag half way accross the map or more before I even respawn. It is an unfair exploitation of the game that cheapens the experience for people who play fair games.
It is not at all like button glitches because those are exactly what they sound like, glitches. Flag juggling is not a glitch or an exploit, because once again if Bungie didn't intend for it to be in their game it would have been removed.


I'm a legit 45. I NEVER flag run and still capture the flag because I am a better player. Use skill and not cheap -blam!- tactics.
You won't cap it against a good team without flag running. Limiting your available options because you somehow feel that designs in game are cheap does not make you a better player, it only hurts you.

  • 10.19.2009 10:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: xAssault12x
Posted by: II hyer II
completely viable tactic. they go a little faster however they are exposed the whole time they are doing it, making it fair.

Plus they want you to be able to throw the flag so you can pass it to teammates.

The only real thing you would be accomplishing by removing it would be making the game more one dimensional.



No one is saying that you shouldn't be able to throw the flag. We all want to be able to throw the flag to team mates on a high ledge or whatever. We just don't want flag running in the game because it was never intended to be in the game. The whole point of the flag guy moving really slow is that he is vulnerable and the other team can catch up.

People argue that when you flag run you ar announcing your position to everyone and that is a downside. Really??? When have you ever been in a game when you didn't know at least what part of the map or what path the flag was being taken??? I have never not known where the flag was going and Halo maps are not big. There is only like 3 ways to take a flag on any map. Not to mention some maps are small.

The flag carrier is ment to run slow in order to give the defending team a chance to save their flag. Flag running is just like super bouncing, BXR, BXB, and Standby from Halo 2. It is a way to cheat the game to try and win. Flag running makes CTF on small maps lame. If I die defending the flag and the other team gets the flag and starts flag running they usualy get the flag half way accross the map or more before I even respawn. It is an unfair exploitation of the game that cheapens the experience for people who play fair games.

I'm a legit 45. I NEVER flag run and still capture the flag because I am a better player. Use skill and not cheap -blam!- tactics.

You can haz a cookeh.

CTF is a team gametype, TEAMWORK. Not some nub running around dropping the flag.

  • 10.19.2009 10:21 PM PDT

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Flag juggling has been around since Halo CE

When you could see the flag carrier at all times, he could drive a vehicle, an did not move slower while holding the flag.

Yup, sure a good reason to flag juggle.

  • 10.19.2009 10:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: xAssault12x
We just don't want flag running in the game because it was never intended to be in the game. The whole point of the flag guy moving really slow is that he is vulnerable and the other team can catch up.


your absolutely right. every time i see my teams flag guy get on a mongoose or warthog, i teamkill him because that was never intended to be in the game. he knows hes supposed to move at 90% speed, and if he tries to go faster by exploiting the system, hes going to pay and im going to run the flag right back to their base, or toss it off the nearest cliff.

Posted by: xAssault12xI'm a legit 45. I NEVER flag run and still capture the flag because I am a better player. Use skill and not cheap -blam!- tactics.
i couldnt agree more. if a tactic is not immediately obvious, it must be an oversight on bungie's part and cheap.


OBVIOUSLY vehicles were ment to be in the game so don't try to use legit stuff to try and fight my point because you know I'm right. If flag running was supposed to be in the game then why is it annoying as hell when it happens??? I'm pretty sure Bungie would have went...WOW that's annoying, we need to change it so that when someone flag runs it isn't going to be so annoying.

Things like flag running were never ment to be a part of Halo. GET OVER THAT AND LET IT GO! You are trying to hold on to some stupid tactic that is not supposed to be in the game. You probly like BXR and BXB and Superbouncing didn't you? I bet you would glitch or mod if you could too.

So if there is a way to cheat the game then I should do it right? Ok then I should be able to mod and make my BR shoot sniper rounds that seek out your face and kill you. My warthog should fly and shoot heat seeking missiles. I should be able to glitch out of maps and super bounce and run faster then everyone too.

By your argument Halo should be a battle of who has better mods or glitches. Way to be really smart and bring up a dumb point. Things that are not ment to be in the game and diminish the experience for legit players should be removed.

  • 10.19.2009 10:28 PM PDT