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Subject: CTF flag bouncing
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Hey guess what...Bungie couldve got rid of it if they wanted to. But its not an advantage since theres an arrow right above your head everytime you drop it.

  • 10.21.2009 8:35 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

@Assault: Wow you think flag juggling is cheap!? That explains how you acted in my thread...

Wow, just wow. IT GIVES AWAY YOUR POSITION, THATS THE CONSEQUENCE. DUEEEY!!

  • 10.21.2009 8:36 PM PDT
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I'm honestly having a hard time believing this a legitimate topic... it takes skill to juggle the flag well so why would you want to take it out? Both teams are able to do it if they choose so how is it unfair? This thread is almost the equivalent of saying BR starts should be removed for AR starts.

  • 10.21.2009 8:39 PM PDT

Wow watch some tournament games people. Without flag juggling, no team would ever score a cap against another top team.

Flag juggling has been around for years before Halo 3 and it's still in the game. It's not a glitch.

These forums reach a new low everyday.

  • 10.21.2009 8:39 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

Posted by: GHOSTLea legit
Wow watch some tournament games people. Without flag juggling, no team would ever score a cap against another top team.

Flag juggling has been around for years before Halo 3 and it's still in the game. It's not a glitch.

These forums reach a new low everyday.

Posted by: Robbie B
I'm honestly having a hard time believing this a legitimate topic... it takes skill to juggle the flag well so why would you want to take it out? Both teams are able to do it if they choose so how is it unfair? This thread is almost the equivalent of saying BR starts should be removed for AR starts.



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  • 10.21.2009 8:56 PM PDT

blah blah blah pickles

Wait, tell me again, why is it ruining the game?
Allow me to attempt to understand the reasons you gave:
not only is it EXTREMELY ANNOYING but it ruins the game making it exeedingly hard to catch the flag and even then to return it.

1: It's EXTREMELY ANNOYING!
I have nothing to say to this besides how it doesn't ruin the game.
2: It makes it ludicrously difficult to "catch the flag."
I simply don't understand what you're trying to say.
Running the flag doesn't make it harder to pick up, unless of course you mean steal from the person who is running it.
Anyhow, this doesn't come even CLOSE to ruining the game, all it does is piss the flag runner off because you're stealing his capture.
3: It makes it harder to return the flag!
Once again, WHAT on EARTH are you saying? Of course it's going to be hard to return the flag if you're running next to a member of the opposite team who is running it. That's why you KILL them. It's just as hard to return the flag when someone's running it as it is when someone is carrying it. No offense, but if you meant that, you are among the people I gauge at the level of "indescribably stupid." You wrote up that entire post though, so I don't think you are indescribably stupid.
However, I simply can't think what other way you might mean when you say "it makes it harder to return the flag."

In conclusion, all you have done here is say that flag running should be rendered impossible, and given ways on how to do so.
You have NOT provided a reason WHY it should be gotten rid of, unless your grammar is so incomplete that the message didn't get through (don't mean to poke fun at the grammatical skills you exhibited in that post, I'm just stating a fact).

Please give a LEGITIMATE REASON before asking for something that a whole WEALTH of players (aka the ENTIRETY of the competitive community) appreciate to be removed from the game.
If you can clarify what about flag running was ruining the game, please feel free to elaborate.
Otherwise you're fighting a technologically advanced war with nothing but flimsy sticks.

  • 10.21.2009 9:00 PM PDT

Posted by: Robbie B
I'm honestly having a hard time believing this a legitimate topic... it takes skill to juggle the flag well so why would you want to take it out? Both teams are able to do it if they choose so how is it unfair? This thread is almost the equivalent of saying BR starts should be removed for AR starts.


This says it all.

  • 10.21.2009 9:01 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

I don't even get annoyed by the announcer saying it keeps getting stolen and dropped, in fact that kind of gets my heart racing to save the flag...

  • 10.21.2009 9:02 PM PDT
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I don't think that it is that bad, but like some people said you do find out where other people are and you do go faster, so it is a trade off.

  • 10.21.2009 9:03 PM PDT

What is with the member noble member and honorable member about

  • 10.21.2009 9:03 PM PDT

i dont understand why people who are not that good at the game (no offense intended) have to try to take things away from people that are skilled at the game. it is usually the more skilled players that do the flag running and the ones that are not so skilled are the ones that dont do it. if u dont like it then dont do it.

flag running has a purpose and it is an important skill to have when playing CTF games at higher levels. if people did not do it in these games they would never score because they would move to slowly and would get killed very easily. if u ever watch a MLG game u would see that the team first kills everyone then runs the flag quickly before they get killed. without flag running u would have to kill your opponents multiple times in a row without being killed to score the flag. this creates an unnecessary nuisance that only takes away from the game, it adds nothing to it.

this is just like how some people dont want the BR in reach. it is usually for the same reasons, the people who are not good with it dont want it.

  • 10.21.2009 9:04 PM PDT
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B.net forum kids worry too much.
stick to your level 10 and your ok.

  • 10.21.2009 9:06 PM PDT

does any one know why its callin it next to our names like mine honorable member why?

  • 10.21.2009 9:10 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

Posted by: knox457
does any one know why its callin it next to our names like mine honorable member why?

If you don't know what it means you probably don't deserve it.

  • 10.21.2009 9:12 PM PDT

wow realy can u just tell me instead of being ignorent

  • 10.21.2009 9:13 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

Posted by: knox457
wow realy can u just tell me instead of being ignorent

You have no idea what ignorant means do you?

  • 10.21.2009 9:14 PM PDT

Ok here is the dealyo flag running is legitimate in my opinion it doesn't break the game at all. just cross over to the darkside and start juggling. i personally use both depending on the tactical advantage presented to me at the time. also why has the br been brought up in this thread. its just off topic. the reason it seems over powered is that bungie made a ass load of stupid weapons that ruin the balance of the weapons i had no problem with the halo one assault rifle but i hate the halo 3 ar and the spiker and the plasma rifle and the smg. lol i love how i went off topic to sry

  • 10.21.2009 9:14 PM PDT

listen im not trying to start a fight. can you just please tell me and il appriciate it.

  • 10.21.2009 9:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: Slayer706
Try this argument in a courtroom and see where you go:

"I don't consider theft a crime because it is easy to accomplish. Don't be hating on me judge just because you don't have the skill to do it!"

Posted by: Redraven1992
capture the flag is a great game type and theres so much fun to be had. however theres one thing that just breaks my heart and the game when it happens.

flag bouncing.

you know when the dude carrying the flag drops and then picks up and drops and picks up and drops and picks up etc etc etc the flag? not only is it EXTREMELY ANNOYING but it ruins the game making it exeedingly hard to catch the flag and even then to return it.



the porblem originates from when u drop the flag it goes infront of u a bit. this combined with a 360 radius in witch u can grab the flag make flag bouncing possible.

an easy solution is thus. have the flag drop straight down practically right infront or the player model and remove flag inertia, just in front of there toes. second have it so only if the flag is infront of the player (like 180 degrees) and a short range (like the melee lung range) will u be able to pick it up.

bungie this is something that really hurts CTF as a gametype and ruins the fun in playing it.

please hear me and address the problem.

update..

some ideas that people have come up with are thus.
1.having the player retain there slow speed for short duration after they drop the flag therefore defeating the purpose.
2.being unable to pick up a flag until 2 seconds or so after it has been droped.
3.remove flag inertia and constric flag pickup radius


There's a point to the flag guy being hard to catch.

YOU HAVE TO CATCH HIM.

Yes, you run slower holding the flag, and are therefore easier to kill. Flag running increases the speed, but so do vehicles. So, by your logic, we should remove all vehicles because they make it to hard to catch the flag guy cause he moves faster.

Now, take this for instance. Can you reach behind you? Unless you, unfortunately, have a physical disability, I bet you can. Since Bungie seemed so intent on bringing realism into H3 (see BR spread), it only makes sense that a Genetically advanced Super Soldier should be able to grab the flag behind him and then throw it all of three to five feet.

If you haven't played Halo 2, then you don't know what real Flag Running is. Bungie addressed that "problem" and seem quite satisfied with the outcome.

Good words my friend: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

  • 10.21.2009 9:16 PM PDT

"Now they need to remove crouch jumping and the points system. Then their campaign towards musical-chairs-with-more-seats-than-people will be in full force."

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B.net kids

  • 10.21.2009 9:17 PM PDT

can some one please nicely tell me why it says honorable member next to my GT.

  • 10.21.2009 9:21 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

Posted by: knox457
can some one please nicely tell me why it says honorable member next to my GT.

It means that Bungie might consider you as a worthy candidate to be hired.

  • 10.21.2009 9:23 PM PDT

to work for them? thats nice but dont you deserve that as well your stats are better and hw do u get the tittle of honorable member and thanks for telling me im srry for annoying you.

  • 10.21.2009 9:24 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Posted by: Bad Wolf Claw
Flag running is a legitimate tactic, it's not annoying and doesn't hurt the CTF gametype.
The tactic does not.

However, the announcer blaring over and over and over does get extremely annoying.

Give the announcer a cooldown, and everything is peachy.

  • 10.21.2009 9:25 PM PDT

"Now they need to remove crouch jumping and the points system. Then their campaign towards musical-chairs-with-more-seats-than-people will be in full force."

# Big T Mac10

Posted by: knox457
to work for them? thats nice but dont you deserve that as well your stats are better and hw do u get the tittle of honorable member and thanks for telling me im srry for annoying you.


It means you post on these forums too much and are scared to post your actual opinion.

  • 10.21.2009 9:27 PM PDT