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Subject: Why does everyone hate the BR?

WHAT IS HALO:CE?>:(

  • 10.18.2009 3:41 PM PDT

if you like the BR you are a nooB unless you are the top ten mlg clan

  • 10.18.2009 3:42 PM PDT
Subject: What could be done to make the BR more balanced.
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Why are you guys arguing weapons balance instead of what makes those guns fun too shoot aliens with.

the problem right now is that the BR and AR both sound like BB guns, do not damage or interact with the environment what so ever, the AR is a Bludgeoning tool instead of a future military Assault rifle. and as far as the battle rifle goes, it fun enough just need to be louder, or me personally I would like the Semi auto BR

well due to you title change this could work

1- The BR should stay, but it should also be funner to use and have a different role. I would also like it to be Semi auto. so its not another assault rifle. the definition of a battle rifle is a gas operated riffle that fire a full sized rifle rounds like the 30-06, ot the 7.62x51 which ironically the AR shoots

2- I think the AR should be the mid range jack o all trads weapon. like the AR in RFG where you have a slight zoom, becomes more accurate, and gets a smaller reticule. also make sound like the MA5B. i miss that wonderful noise; the Damage was set up. it took around 22 shot to drop the shield but 3-5 to kill once you sheild was down

so what about this

AR- Slight Aim
Fire rate- 10/sec
shield damage 16 rounds
Armor Damage 4 rounds

BR- 4x Zoom
Fire rate 4 rounds a sec
Shield damage 9 rounds
Armor damage 1 head shot 2-3 torso

so in this case the AR kills faster then the BR, however with the AR you have to use burst fire to accurately hit your target at longer ranges; so the delay in fire rate allows the BR to win at longer ranges.


[Edited on 10.18.2009 3:57 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 3:42 PM PDT
Subject: Why does everyone hate the BR?

THIS IS A BR DISCUSSION AND SHOULD BE POSTED IN THE HALO 3 FORUM STICKIED THREAD CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THESE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HALO: REACH.

SHOULD BE LOCKED.

HERE IS THE THREAD. USE IT.

[Edited on 10.18.2009 3:44 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 3:42 PM PDT

Posted by: ClosedJohn117
See that's the thing: Four HEADSHOTS. If it were four body shots then yeah I would probably agree that it was a very cheap weapon, but when you need to hit a small body part moving rapidly across a field I have to say it takes a bit more skill.

the auto aim does most of the aiming though also. So maybe the auto aim is to blame but its still overpowerd

  • 10.18.2009 3:42 PM PDT

i thought it meant "Custom Edition".

  • 10.18.2009 3:43 PM PDT

haloCE is the first halo made it is combat evolved


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  • 10.18.2009 3:44 PM PDT

Um... I like Halo? I don't really know what to say. I'm a student at the moment, I hope to become a criminal profiler, and I enjoy pretty much everything as long as it's good.

In all honesty I'm not very good at it and I still like it. And I don't really understand why it gets so much flak, it takes a good deal of skill to use and it would alienate a large percentage of the Halo online community if it was not included in Reach. I say tweak it and just let it be.

  • 10.18.2009 3:46 PM PDT

I always thought that people carried a sense of animosity toward the carbine. My brother hates it, my cousins hate it, and my friend hates it.

  • 10.18.2009 3:46 PM PDT
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wow that funny

Halo CE

Combat Evolved
Custom Edition



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  • 10.18.2009 3:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: SilentTiger4
First of all, there are many people who can use the BR efficiently and appreciate what it can provide. A well aimed four bursts will kill a target, spartan or elite or brute. For others, who do not aim for weak spots and just blindly shoot at the targets body, or legs and feet, will find that the BR is basically unusable as discard it, calling it a noob weapon and also trash talking it. So, basically, those who recognize its potential and power love it (me) and others cannot figure it out and decided to hate it.
No, we hate it because it's too effective. Sure, we enjoy annihilating our foes, but it's just too effective at so many ranges that you don't need another weapon, which ruins the Halo sandbox.

  • 10.18.2009 3:47 PM PDT

Noobs hate the BR cause they SUCK at headshots. Me i LOVE the BR its my favorite wepon!

  • 10.18.2009 3:47 PM PDT

carbine is better than the br fact

  • 10.18.2009 3:47 PM PDT

I have played Halo:combat evolved. It sucks.

  • 10.18.2009 3:47 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

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It breaks away from Halo CE's "Every weapons serves a distinct purpose" Gameplay style.


The only purpose other weapons served in CE were to amuse the guy using the pistol to take you all out. The amused individual was usually me :P

Oh and the CE Needler served little to no purpose in anything outside of an occasional Elite kill on legendary.

The Plasma Rifle, AR, and Shogun in CE could take out a Magnum at close-medium range no problem, the Sniper served longer Ranges. The Magnum was good, but so was everything else (The plasma rifle was an automatic that killed in 13 shots, AND stunned the other player, AND covered their screen making it hard for them to see you.

And the Needler was made PERFECT in Halo 3, hands down.

  • 10.18.2009 3:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
It breaks away from Halo CE's "Every weapons serves a distinct purpose" Gameplay style.
Dual Weilding ruined that, not the BR.

  • 10.18.2009 3:48 PM PDT

Um... I like Halo? I don't really know what to say. I'm a student at the moment, I hope to become a criminal profiler, and I enjoy pretty much everything as long as it's good.

Posted by: Homeboyd903
THIS IS A BR DISCUSSION AND SHOULD BE POSTED IN THE HALO 3 FORUM STICKIED THREAD CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THESE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HALO: REACH.

SHOULD BE LOCKED.

HERE IS THE THREAD. USE IT.
Well we can just as easily turn it into a Halo: Reach discussion. Now please go away, I'm trying to decipher why everyone hates it and what Bungie could do to make it a much more balanced weapon, but of course not everyone will be satisfied.

  • 10.18.2009 3:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: scotsoe
Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
It breaks away from Halo CE's "Every weapons serves a distinct purpose" Gameplay style.

This^^

It's too usefull (though in all honesty it's no better than the CE pistol). The automag effectively fixed the problem by making a very good headshot wepon that was weak at taking down sheilds, which now requires the player to be more tactical. That's why I hope they eliminate the BR or change it to make it more like the Automag(also fixing the carbine would be good).
Actually its a bit more overpowered than the Halo CE since even if you miss the original shot you still have 2 more to get that final head shot whereas the pistol is a hit or miss type of deal, much like the Carbine, yet with a higher damage but slower rate of fire.

  • 10.18.2009 3:49 PM PDT

Posted by: ClosedJohn117
See that's the thing: Four HEADSHOTS. If it were four body shots then yeah I would probably agree that it was a very cheap weapon, but when you need to hit a small body part moving rapidly across a field I have to say it takes a bit more skill.

Three body shots, one head shot. That is ridiculously over powered, given it's accuracy and range.

  • 10.18.2009 3:50 PM PDT

The Temple of E. uses the Carbine instead of the BR.

HONOR THE SWORD!!!

  • 10.18.2009 3:50 PM PDT

Enjoi Pandas Skateboard now you know why i have Panda for a avatar

everyone uses it tooo much too many noobs trying to be pro but fail use it

  • 10.18.2009 3:52 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

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Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
It breaks away from Halo CE's "Every weapons serves a distinct purpose" Gameplay style.
Dual Weilding ruined that, not the BR.

Not really, if they made CE's weapons the same, and included new ones FOR dual wielding it would be fine. The problem is they removed key elements that CE's weapons had, like the Plasma Rifle's power and stun. Instead they should have made a NEW gun that could be held dual wield.

They didn't need to change the Plasma Pistol either, even dual wield it was perfect as was in CE, the Magnum was begging for a power change, and they did ok with 2, but 3 I think they found the power it should have had back in CE.

  • 10.18.2009 3:53 PM PDT

Gravity Hammer or Energy Sword? Which 1 is better?

  • 10.18.2009 3:53 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: BTE
Posted by: scotsoe
Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
It breaks away from Halo CE's "Every weapons serves a distinct purpose" Gameplay style.

This^^

It's too usefull (though in all honesty it's no better than the CE pistol). The automag effectively fixed the problem by making a very good headshot wepon that was weak at taking down sheilds, which now requires the player to be more tactical. That's why I hope they eliminate the BR or change it to make it more like the Automag(also fixing the carbine would be good).
Actually its a bit more overpowered than the Halo CE since even if you miss the original shot you still have 2 more to get that final head shot whereas the pistol is a hit or miss type of deal, much like the Carbine, yet with a higher damage but slower rate of fire.

The Pistol in CE was less of a problem because EVERYTHING ELSE was strong too. The thing was the Pistol in CE was CAPABLE of killing in 3 shots, but more often than not bulled spread made it 6-7 shots. Where the BR never takes more than 5.

  • 10.18.2009 3:55 PM PDT

so it is fact that the carbine is better and the br is nooB weapon no fighting it

  • 10.18.2009 3:56 PM PDT

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