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Subject: Why does everyone hate the BR?

People hate it cause they cant use it as well as some other people. And dont deny it, its true.

People who cry about the BR cause they get killed at long ranges with it only cry cause they cant Long range with it themselves (They put BR spread in because of Long Range BRing, so that point is voided).

People dont like it cause you can 2-3 shot someone in the head and beat them down in certain game types (I guess thats not fair seeing how you can shoot 5 bullets from an AR and beat them down to kill them).

And people who say that it takes 4 shots to kill someone, you forget you have to hit their head all 4 times to get the kill, and alot of players cant do that, so they complain about getting 4 shotted because of the fact they cant do it themselves.

In the end people dont like it because they are not as good as others with it, just like how some people cry about snipers, just because there is someone better, doesnt mean that its not fair. Just get better at the game.

  • 10.18.2009 3:56 PM PDT

Breaking barriers.

The Br is completely balanced as it is. Those who say otherwise need to learn how to ideally use a counter-weapon.

  • 10.18.2009 3:56 PM PDT
Subject: What could be done to make the BR more balanced.

Um... I like Halo? I don't really know what to say. I'm a student at the moment, I hope to become a criminal profiler, and I enjoy pretty much everything as long as it's good.

Well then perhaps the BR could do less damage to the head as long as it's shielded. The SPARTANs could move however much power each part of the armor had. It would take 4 headshots to lower shields and and 1 to kill you, It would take 5 bodyshots to lower shields and 1-2 body shots to kill you. Also either make it fire slower or faster depending on how much damage it deals.

[Edited on 10.18.2009 3:58 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 3:58 PM PDT

the reason all the people who like it is that the BR is a weaker sniper that is why and you all know it

  • 10.18.2009 4:00 PM PDT
Subject: Why everyone hates the BR could be done to make it more balanced.

How come I never get the sniper rifle?!
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My ROFLsniper goes POW!

Yesterday, at my friend's house, I played a Halo CE pc online game on a modded map with a single shot BR, and it was amazing! It was diffigut to use, but it had a nice punch and sound to it. I would love to see a singleshot BR in Reach.

[Edited on 10.18.2009 4:01 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 4:00 PM PDT
Subject: Why does everyone hate the BR?
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...And when i am standing there, watching as the slingshot is cranked back into the shadows, a smile will bestow upon my face as I softly whisper one word..."blam...."


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Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
It breaks away from Halo CE's "Every weapons serves a distinct purpose" Gameplay style.


duel wielding broke that process, not the BR.

  • 10.18.2009 4:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: anahum
The Br is completely balanced as it is. Those who say otherwise need to learn how to ideally use a counter-weapon.
You mean another BR?


But seriously, this has got to be the 500th BR topic. Go read one of the other ones that have 80 pages of discussion.

  • 10.18.2009 4:04 PM PDT

Posted by: TS AGRawr2
People hate it cause they cant use it as well as some other people. And dont deny it, its true.

People who cry about the BR cause they get killed at long ranges with it only cry cause they cant Long range with it themselves (They put BR spread in because of Long Range BRing, so that point is voided).

People dont like it cause you can 2-3 shot someone in the head and beat them down in certain game types (I guess thats not fair seeing how you can shoot 5 bullets from an AR and beat them down to kill them).

And people who say that it takes 4 shots to kill someone, you forget you have to hit their head all 4 times to get the kill, and alot of players cant do that, so they complain about getting 4 shotted because of the fact they cant do it themselves.

In the end people dont like it because they are not as good as others with it, just like how some people cry about snipers, just because there is someone better, doesnt mean that its not fair. Just get better at the game.

You are just so unbelievably wrong.

You do not need to hit someones head four times for the kill, you need to hit their body three times and their head once. Or hit them with a grenade, and hit their head once. Or melee them, and hit them in the head once. Given it's high rate of fire, even if you miss that one head shot, it's pretty damn easy to get another one.

Given it's long range, high rate of fire, and amazing accuracy, it beats every other weapon in the game. That's the problem with it, it's too damn powerful.

  • 10.18.2009 4:04 PM PDT

Ladnil

See enemy.
Press left stick towards him.
Shoot.
If you happen to get close enough, beat down.

If that is your battle plan, with any weapon, you're going to get 4-shotted by a competent BR. Try strafing, scrubs.

  • 10.18.2009 4:06 PM PDT

BR sucks.

  • 10.18.2009 4:06 PM PDT

Wherever you roam
so far from home
you'll be safe from peril
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if you avoid David Powel
and keep track of your towel.

I think that making the BR fire more slowly or do less damage would balance it fairly well, the big problem is that the battle rifle type weapons are often too useful in close quarters.

BR/Carbine should dominate most other weapons at mid-to-long range but it should be dominated by assault rifles and SMGs at close-to-mid range but all to often they aren't.

  • 10.18.2009 4:06 PM PDT
Subject: Why everyone hates the BR and what could make it more balanced.

Rawr

And the ones complaining about "oh it takes 4 shots to kill someone with the BR" No it doesnt, it takes 4 Head shots, which most people miss atleast 1 of them. If you get shot in the head by a total of 12 bullets, it makes sense to die, i mean if your gonna complain about 12 bullets hitting someone in the head and them dying, why dont you complain about the 1 it takes from a sniper.

In the end people just complain because they cant do something as good as someone else. And its true, most players know it, but they will deny it because they dont want people to think they suck.

[Edited on 10.18.2009 4:15 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 4:06 PM PDT

thank you it does suck

[Edited on 10.18.2009 4:08 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 4:07 PM PDT

the fact is that the BR isnt hated its underappreciated.My brother loves the BR.The Carbine, however, is greatly underappreciated!

[Edited on 10.18.2009 4:11 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 4:09 PM PDT
Subject: Why does everyone hate the BR?

Um... I like Halo? I don't really know what to say. I'm a student at the moment, I hope to become a criminal profiler, and I enjoy pretty much everything as long as it's good.

Posted by: BTE
Posted by: anahum
The Br is completely balanced as it is. Those who say otherwise need to learn how to ideally use a counter-weapon.
You mean another BR?


But seriously, this has got to be the 500th BR topic. Go read one of the other ones that have 80 pages of discussion.
I know, I'm sorry. I just wanted to see what made so many of your hate it and perhaps then come up with a plan to make it more balanced. All those other threads were about how to make it better, this is just a prelude to that.

  • 10.18.2009 4:09 PM PDT
Subject: Why everyone hates the BR and what could make it more balanced.

Posted by: EchoGamer
Posted by: TS AGRawr2
People hate it cause they cant use it as well as some other people. And dont deny it, its true.

People who cry about the BR cause they get killed at long ranges with it only cry cause they cant Long range with it themselves (They put BR spread in because of Long Range BRing, so that point is voided).

People dont like it cause you can 2-3 shot someone in the head and beat them down in certain game types (I guess thats not fair seeing how you can shoot 5 bullets from an AR and beat them down to kill them).

And people who say that it takes 4 shots to kill someone, you forget you have to hit their head all 4 times to get the kill, and alot of players cant do that, so they complain about getting 4 shotted because of the fact they cant do it themselves.

In the end people dont like it because they are not as good as others with it, just like how some people cry about snipers, just because there is someone better, doesnt mean that its not fair. Just get better at the game.

You are just so unbelievably wrong.

You do not need to hit someones head four times for the kill, you need to hit their body three times and their head once. Or hit them with a grenade, and hit their head once. Or melee them, and hit them in the head once. Given it's high rate of fire, even if you miss that one head shot, it's pretty damn easy to get another one.

Given it's long range, high rate of fire, and amazing accuracy, it beats every other weapon in the game. That's the problem with it, it's too damn powerful.


So that must mean the sniper is to powerful to? Its pretty accurate, can shoot a very long distance, possible 1hit kill, and works good up close too. Or what about the plasma pistol, it locks on but not well, you can dual weild it, and 1 shot and a beat down is a kill.

And even with the 3 body shots and 1 to the head, you still need to hit the small target it to get it to be a 4 shot kill. which people do still miss. Its kinda funny how people keep missing the point, to kill someone fast, you have to hit the head, which is not a blimp, its small.

[Edited on 10.18.2009 4:13 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 4:12 PM PDT

Can we drop the subject Its a pointless arguement!

[Edited on 10.18.2009 4:14 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 4:12 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: TS AGRawr2
People cry becasue others use it better then they do it.

My service Record says you are lying.

Posted by: TS AGRawr2
People get mad becuase someone can kill them long range with a BR. However they fixed this issue by adding in BR spread, so if you strafe are move at all, its alot harder to kill you at long range.

Bullet spread existed in Halo 2, and so did Strafing, your point is invalid.

Posted by: TS AGRawr2
Others get mad cause (Depending on game type) it takes 2-3 head shots and a beat down to kill someone up close, which apparently is noobie compared to the 5 bullets and a beat down with the AR.

Actually, I find 3 shots+melee bearable, the 2 shot-melee that only exists in MLG is stupid though.

Posted by: TS AGRawr2
And the ones complaining about "oh it takes 4 shots to kill someone with the BR" No it doesnt, it takes 4 Head shots, which most people miss atleast 1 of them. If you get shot in the head by a total of 12 bullets, it makes sense to die, i mean if your gonna complain about 12 bullets hitting someone in the head and them dying, why dont you complain about the 1 it takes from a sniper.

You are wrong, it takes 3 shots ANYWHERE, and a 4th to the HEAD to kill. Shield's aren't weaker at the head, only armor is. Also, 12 bullets don't realistically penetrate Energy Shields. At all.

Posted by: TS AGRawr2
In the end people just complain because they cant do something as good as someone else. And its true, most players know it, but they will deny it because they dont want people to think they suck.

Again, my service record says you are lying.

  • 10.18.2009 4:16 PM PDT

Um... I like Halo? I don't really know what to say. I'm a student at the moment, I hope to become a criminal profiler, and I enjoy pretty much everything as long as it's good.

Wow, you guys are really up in arms about this. In just 1 or 2 hours this has becom a hot topic. Keep the ideas coming, don't argue amongst yourself, lets just focus on trying to make it a more balanced weapon.

  • 10.18.2009 4:18 PM PDT

he does not give a -blam!- about us no one post any more

  • 10.18.2009 4:21 PM PDT

NO MORE POST LET IT DIE DOWN

  • 10.18.2009 4:23 PM PDT
Subject: Why does everyone hate the BR?

You can't spell GARBAGE without AR.

Posted by: ClosedJohn117
Wow, you guys are really up in arms about this. In just 1 or 2 hours this has becom a hot topic. Keep the ideas coming, don't argue amongst yourself, lets just focus on trying to make it a more balanced weapon.


I say, the current problem is that all the other weapons besides the BR aren't powerful enough.

Just keep the BR the way it is, power up all the other weapons, remove dual wielding, and/or make DW weapons stronger, weaken the melee, and there you go, the BR won't seem so dominant anymore.

And the AR won't seem like a shoot and beatdown weapon.

[Edited on 10.18.2009 4:24 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 4:23 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Potato Mawnster
Posted by: ClosedJohn117
Wow, you guys are really up in arms about this. In just 1 or 2 hours this has becom a hot topic. Keep the ideas coming, don't argue amongst yourself, lets just focus on trying to make it a more balanced weapon.


I say, the current problem is that all the other weapons besides the BR aren't powerful enough.

Just keep the BR the way it is, power up all the other weapons, remove dual wielding, and/or make DW weapons stronger, weaken the melee, and there you go, the BR won't seem so dominant anymore.

It's the opposite of my first idea, but I APROVE.

Power Weapons, Anti-Vehicle weapons, the BR and Carbine are FINE.

Melee is too strong, and Medium weapons are too weak.

This would work.

  • 10.18.2009 4:24 PM PDT

I said people, not everyone, your 2 points about your service record are invalid.

My 4 shots comment was to point out they said 4 shots, they didnt say 3 body shots and a head shot, therefore they were taking about 4shots in total, no matter what.

I never said BR spread and strafing didnt exsist in Halo 2, im not sure where you got the idea that i did. Also i said they fixed it, when i said this i ment in Halo 2 they fixed it, Halo 3 has a slightly bigger spread from what i hear to fix it further, your point is invalid.

[Edited on 10.18.2009 4:27 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 4:26 PM PDT

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