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Subject: Why does everyone hate the BR?

Online ID: GriffGraff15

It's not that it is terribly overpowered (a little nerf to it wouldn't hurt), it is just that it is too good at every range so it makes other weapons obsolete. There is a big problem with weapon balance when 99.9% of the players have the vast majority of their kills with the same weapon (the BR).

  • 10.18.2009 4:28 PM PDT

STOP POSTING

  • 10.18.2009 4:32 PM PDT

Um... I like Halo? I don't really know what to say. I'm a student at the moment, I hope to become a criminal profiler, and I enjoy pretty much everything as long as it's good.

Posted by: BadderRus
STOP STOP STOP POSTING STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP

















STOP STOP STOP STOP POSTING FOREVER IN THE FORUM STOP STOP STOP
Honestly, what are you 5? If you want them to stop posting stop posting yourself. I'm just trying to get ideas about how to balance this weapon and honestly you're acting like a little kid. And of course I don't care about you guys, I just care about your ideas. I, I really can't even articulate how childish you sound.

  • 10.18.2009 4:33 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: TS AGRawr2
I said people, not everyone, your 2 points about your service record are invalid.

Are you seriously trying to call me out as "An exception that proves the rule?"

Posted by: TS AGRawr2
My 4 shots comment was to point out they said 4 shots, they didnt say 3 body shots and a head shot, therefore they were taking about 4shots in total, no matter what.

Okay, so both you AND the other side put it wrong, they said it like 4 shot kill was what happened, you said it like this:
Posted by: TS AGRawr2
And the ones complaining about "oh it takes 4 shots to kill someone with the BR" No it doesnt, it takes 4 Head shots...

What you said DID INFACT MEAN that ALL 4 SHOTS had to be headshots, which they don't.

Posted by: TS AGRawr2
I never said BR spread and strafing didnt exsist in Halo 2, im not sure where you got the idea that i did. Also i said they fixed it, when i said this i ment in Halo 2 they fixed it, Halo 3 has a slightly bigger spread from what i hear to fix it further, your point is invalid.

Here is what you said:
Posted by: TS AGRawr2
People get mad becuase someone can kill them long range with a BR. However they fixed this issue by adding in BR spread...

ADDING, implying that it was NOT THERE BEFORE.

  • 10.18.2009 4:34 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: westpointusma15
It's not that it is terribly overpowered (a little nerf to it wouldn't hurt), it is just that it is too good at every range so it makes other weapons obsolete. There is a big problem with weapon balance when 99.9% of the players have the vast majority of their kills with the same weapon (the BR).

The problem is that the BR makes all the other common weapons useless. That is all there is to it. Power Weapons come in handy for their own specific uses, but other than that, everything is obsolete.

And I agree that even just a little nurf would make a huge difference, and that most kills are attained with it is proof that it is too good.

[Edited on 10.18.2009 4:37 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 4:36 PM PDT

Posted by: ClosedJohn117
Posted by: Homeboyd903
THIS IS A BR DISCUSSION AND SHOULD BE POSTED IN THE HALO 3 FORUM STICKIED THREAD CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THESE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HALO: REACH.

SHOULD BE LOCKED.

HERE IS THE THREAD. USE IT.
Well we can just as easily turn it into a Halo: Reach discussion. Now please go away, I'm trying to decipher why everyone hates it and what Bungie could do to make it a much more balanced weapon, but of course not everyone will be satisfied.


How about you go away? Just saying the word "Battle Rifle" or "BR" anywhere in the forums will draw mobs of incessant rants from anyone who sees the thread. THIS IS THE REASON THAT THREAD WAS CREATED.

Watch, create another thread that says "BR sucks" or "BR n00bs suck" or something along those lines and people wont be able to stay away. They will start flamewars, like this thread has, and will get locked. Again, the reason that other thread was created.


AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HALO: REACH.

[Edited on 10.18.2009 4:39 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 4:38 PM PDT

Um... I like Halo? I don't really know what to say. I'm a student at the moment, I hope to become a criminal profiler, and I enjoy pretty much everything as long as it's good.

I'm trying to be as impartial as possible on this thing. I know that thread was created for a reason somewhat like that but I really wanted to see what is required to make it a more balanced weapon. On that thread all I see is flamewars and I'd hate to see this thread turn into that. I will not create another thread because like I said I'm not trying to shift anyone's opinion one way or another. Oh, and yes I know this doesn't have alot to do with Reach but like I said before this is just a prelude to a thread that will include all these ideas and more.

  • 10.18.2009 4:47 PM PDT

Posted by: ClosedJohn117
I'm trying to be as impartial as possible on this thing. I know that thread was created for a reason somewhat like that but I really wanted to see what is required to make it a more balanced weapon. On that thread all I see is flamewars and I'd hate to see this thread turn into that. I will not create another thread because like I said I'm not trying to shift anyone's opinion one way or another. Oh, and yes I know this doesn't have alot to do with Reach but like I said before this is just a prelude to a thread that will include all these ideas and more.


Correction: It has nothing to do with Reach, and this thread has already become a flamewar.

  • 10.18.2009 4:48 PM PDT
Subject: Why does everyone hate the BR?

I play halo 3 for enjoyment. I've noticed this game and community has changed alot since it's release.

i like it.. its a great weapon for mid-range.

  • 10.18.2009 4:49 PM PDT
Subject: Why does everyone hate the BR?

Um... I like Halo? I don't really know what to say. I'm a student at the moment, I hope to become a criminal profiler, and I enjoy pretty much everything as long as it's good.

Okay, now how do I close it down? Is it even possible or does it have to be locked. This has already become a flamewar and it might as well be closed down. Or we could just continue along with it, try and be civil and put our minds together to come up with as many ideas to make the BR a balanced weapon in Reach.

  • 10.18.2009 4:51 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

We could all report someone? but then someone has to suffer a Blacklist...

  • 10.18.2009 4:52 PM PDT

You can't spell GARBAGE without AR.

Posted by: ClosedJohn117
Okay, now how do I close it down? Is it even possible or does it have to be locked. This has already become a flamewar and it might as well be closed down. Or we could just continue along with it, try and be civil and put our minds together to come up with as many ideas to make the BR a balanced weapon in Reach.


BR or AR threads always end in flames, cause people feel strongly about their opinions, this is just as bad a starting a thread about religion. lol

  • 10.18.2009 4:53 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Potato Mawnster
Posted by: ClosedJohn117
Okay, now how do I close it down? Is it even possible or does it have to be locked. This has already become a flamewar and it might as well be closed down. Or we could just continue along with it, try and be civil and put our minds together to come up with as many ideas to make the BR a balanced weapon in Reach.


BR or AR threads always end in flames, cause people feel strongly about their opinions, this is just as bad a starting a thread about religion. lol

Actually I think its more because there are problems with them, the BR has problems, and the 2 hit kill melee causes problems with the AR.

  • 10.18.2009 4:54 PM PDT

Um... I like Halo? I don't really know what to say. I'm a student at the moment, I hope to become a criminal profiler, and I enjoy pretty much everything as long as it's good.

Go ahead. I'll be blacklisted for a few days or be permabanned from the forums. I tried to maintain things civil and try and lead this discussion towards solutions, but of course it was not meant to be. Whatever, just go ahead and end it all. Also in my defense I had never even been to the Halo 3 forums so I wouldn't really know what was there.

[Edited on 10.18.2009 5:02 PM PDT]

  • 10.18.2009 4:56 PM PDT

You can't spell GARBAGE without AR.

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Posted by: Potato Mawnster
Posted by: ClosedJohn117
Okay, now how do I close it down? Is it even possible or does it have to be locked. This has already become a flamewar and it might as well be closed down. Or we could just continue along with it, try and be civil and put our minds together to come up with as many ideas to make the BR a balanced weapon in Reach.


BR or AR threads always end in flames, cause people feel strongly about their opinions, this is just as bad a starting a thread about religion. lol

Actually I think its more because there are problems with them, the BR has problems, and the 2 hit kill melee causes problems with the AR.


Plus the increased lunge and the homing, auto turning auto lunge of death. Seriously, you don't even have to be looking anywhere near them to hit them.

Seriously,



WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? It's common sense!


If I ever realize that Reach has a beatdown this powerful or even more powerful, I'm just going to sell the damn thing.

  • 10.18.2009 4:58 PM PDT

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