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Subject: Will Reach reveal engineers to be Forunners

bungie has proven that a bunch of monkeys sitting in front of keyboards can randomly type out a masterpiece. the thing is, when you go to play the masterpiece, you cant help but notice all the monkey s**t smeared all over it.

it gets real old having to wait months for someone like mlg to clean off all the monkey poo.

Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: force recon2013
so then theres forunner genetics in humans. or what sepparates master chief and johnson from any other person?


Any human is considered a 'Reclaimer'. we have Forerunner genetics.
fixed.

we are decendants the in the same way native americans are decendants of asians, in the same way italians are decendants of romans. its that simple. forerunner recognizes us as decendants, it doesnt recognize anyone else.

quit adding random crap.

  • 10.20.2009 1:22 AM PDT
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"Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do." -Voltaire

Thank you eraseme, for saying something logical...the rest of this thread (except for the people pointing out that humans = descendants of forerunner in the sense that you laid out) is full of bull-blam!-.

I'm absolutely stunned by how some people insist on being painfully ignorant =/

  • 10.20.2009 1:27 AM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Posted by: eraseme
Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: force recon2013
so then theres forunner genetics in humans. or what sepparates master chief and johnson from any other person?


Any human is considered a 'Reclaimer'. we have Forerunner genetics.
fixed.

we are decendants the in the same way native americans are decendants of asians, in the same way italians are decendants of romans. its that simple. forerunner recognizes us as decendants, it doesnt recognize anyone else.

quit adding random crap.


Well yeah ok but just to clear up for others we are not Forerunners we are just decendants.

  • 10.20.2009 1:31 AM PDT

bungie has proven that a bunch of monkeys sitting in front of keyboards can randomly type out a masterpiece. the thing is, when you go to play the masterpiece, you cant help but notice all the monkey s**t smeared all over it.

it gets real old having to wait months for someone like mlg to clean off all the monkey poo.

Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: eraseme
Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: force recon2013
so then theres forunner genetics in humans. or what sepparates master chief and johnson from any other person?


Any human is considered a 'Reclaimer'. we have Forerunner genetics.
fixed.

we are decendants the in the same way native americans are decendants of asians, in the same way italians are decendants of romans. its that simple. forerunner recognizes us as decendants, it doesnt recognize anyone else.

quit adding random crap.


Well yeah ok but just to clear up for others we are not Forerunners we are just decendants.

oh...my...god...
you are decendants of your parents. your parents are humans. you are also a human. you are not a duck.

i give up.

  • 10.20.2009 1:33 AM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Posted by: eraseme
Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: eraseme
Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: force recon2013
so then theres forunner genetics in humans. or what sepparates master chief and johnson from any other person?


Any human is considered a 'Reclaimer'. we have Forerunner genetics.
fixed.

we are decendants the in the same way native americans are decendants of asians, in the same way italians are decendants of romans. its that simple. forerunner recognizes us as decendants, it doesnt recognize anyone else.

quit adding random crap.


Well yeah ok but just to clear up for others we are not Forerunners we are just decendants.

oh...my...god...
you are decendants of your parents. your parents are humans. you are also a human. you are not a duck.

i give up.



Oh don't worry, I didn't mean it like that. -_-
Like what you said before, Italians are not Romans, they decended from them, we are humans who decended form Forerunners hundreds of thousands of years ago. Which technically still makes us Forerunners but you get the point.
Yup so we're Forerunners, cool, and Engineers are made by Forerunners end of story.

[Edited on 10.20.2009 1:49 AM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 1:37 AM PDT

I wish I was still legendary.

Can we just agree that if humans are 100% forerunner, then they have to be descended from a group of Forerunner who went missing for some time, lost all communication, landed on earth and gradually lost all their technology? and nobody went looking for them? I.e. It's IMPOSSIBLE for us to be fully forerunner. We can have forerunner genetics if they evolved similarly to us, or put it deliberately into our DNA in order to identify us as being able to use their technology, but otherwise...

And engineers are technically a machine made by nanotechnology that mimics flesh and bone. Beyond that they're a savant, a sentient machine that cares about nothing other than their originally assigned job (most of the time). Hell, they could probably go rampant if allowed or forced to.

  • 10.20.2009 2:31 AM PDT

Stuffz....

Posted by: llamalizard
Can we just agree that if humans are 100% forerunner, then they have to be descended from a group of Forerunner who went missing for some time, lost all communication, landed on earth and gradually lost all their technology? and nobody went looking for them? I.e. It's IMPOSSIBLE for us to be fully forerunner. We can have forerunner genetics if they evolved similarly to us, or put it deliberately into our DNA in order to identify us as being able to use their technology, but otherwise...

And engineers are technically a machine made by nanotechnology that mimics flesh and bone. Beyond that they're a savant, a sentient machine that cares about nothing other than their originally assigned job (most of the time). Hell, they could probably go rampant if allowed or forced to.


Throwing a glass of DNA to the water would be a better explanation to why humans are on earth than yours.

  • 10.20.2009 2:37 AM PDT

I wish I was still legendary.

Posted by: DarkWinder_7
Posted by: llamalizard
Can we just agree that if humans are 100% forerunner, then they have to be descended from a group of Forerunner who went missing for some time, lost all communication, landed on earth and gradually lost all their technology? and nobody went looking for them? I.e. It's IMPOSSIBLE for us to be fully forerunner. We can have forerunner genetics if they evolved similarly to us, or put it deliberately into our DNA in order to identify us as being able to use their technology, but otherwise...

And engineers are technically a machine made by nanotechnology that mimics flesh and bone. Beyond that they're a savant, a sentient machine that cares about nothing other than their originally assigned job (most of the time). Hell, they could probably go rampant if allowed or forced to.


Throwing a glass of DNA to the water would be a better explanation to why humans are on earth than yours.


That's why I said the first explanation was impossible. It simply makes NO SENSE that they would land here, somehow lose all their technology, be entirely forgotten by the second most advanced society in Halo canon, be found 100,000 years later and not recognised for what they were.

IMO, we are a completely unique species that has evolved in a SIMILAR way to the Forerunner, but nowhere near identical. They were using us as a way of being able to study what their past may well have been like, and, realising our similarities and ability to think, 'modified' the humans that were brought to the ark to contain strands of forerunner DNA, to carry on their legacy.

  • 10.20.2009 2:40 AM PDT

Stuffz....

Posted by: llamalizard
we are a completely unique species that has evolved in a SIMILAR way to the Forerunner, but nowhere near identical....

the humans that were brought to the ark to contain strands of forerunner DNA, to carry on their legacy.


That my good sir, is something I agree with.

  • 10.20.2009 2:47 AM PDT

The original BADFINGER! (the second)

The whole Human V Covenant War started because the Covenant found out that we were 'direct' descendants to the Forerunners.

Their belief was that ALL Forerunners ascended to a higher plain of exsistence, when the Prophet of Regret learnt of Humans genetic link to the Forerunners, it threw their entire religion out the window and would cause chaos amoungst their alliances with the other species.

So their solution was a complete eradication of the Human species.

But yes like another bloke said, HALO WARS is CANON.

  • 10.20.2009 3:04 AM PDT

Posted by: llamalizard
Posted by: eraseme
humans are forerunners.

confirmed over 2 years ago. guilty spark says it 100% clear as day right before he kills johnson.


This is wrong. He says 'You ARE Forerunner', but if we look through the terminals, that's impossible unless they interbred with humans. Spark just has us mixed up.


As for OP...You really should have read at least one of the novels. The engineers are a forerunner construct, similar to Spark but (IMO) much more complicated.


in the terminals a foreunner finds us (humans)and sees how wonderfull ew are and they build a thingy to protect us from the firing of the halos so if the forerunners loved us then we are related?

[Edited on 10.20.2009 3:46 AM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 3:46 AM PDT

Stuffz....

Posted by: bocajbee
Posted by: llamalizard
Posted by: eraseme
humans are forerunners.

confirmed over 2 years ago. guilty spark says it 100% clear as day right before he kills johnson.


This is wrong. He says 'You ARE Forerunner', but if we look through the terminals, that's impossible unless they interbred with humans. Spark just has us mixed up.


As for OP...You really should have read at least one of the novels. The engineers are a forerunner construct, similar to Spark but (IMO) much more complicated.


in the terminals a foreunner finds us (humans)and sees how wonderfull ew are and they build a thingy to protect us from the firing of the halos so if the forerunners loved us then we are related?


No, we actually descend from the forerunners...

  • 10.20.2009 3:49 AM PDT

Posted by: bocajbee
Posted by: llamalizard
Posted by: eraseme
humans are forerunners.

confirmed over 2 years ago. guilty spark says it 100% clear as day right before he kills johnson.


This is wrong. He says 'You ARE Forerunner', but if we look through the terminals, that's impossible unless they interbred with humans. Spark just has us mixed up.


As for OP...You really should have read at least one of the novels. The engineers are a forerunner construct, similar to Spark but (IMO) much more complicated.


in the terminals a foreunner finds us (humans)and sees how wonderfull ew are and they build a thingy to protect us from the firing of the halos so if the forerunners loved us then we are related?


This isn't some kind of futuristic incest, it's been established HUMAN = WHAT WAS LEFT OF FORERUNNER AFTER HALO WENT OFF. and so are DIRECT descendants as eraseme said. Now stop being so ignorant.

You really can't argue against halopedia, it knows ALL!

  • 10.20.2009 8:43 AM PDT

Humans are the Forunners.
Not engineers

  • 10.20.2009 9:21 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Humans are NOT direct "descendants" of the Forerunners. The Precursors came before the Forerunners, and the Precursors "passed the mantel" to the Forerunners. The Forerunners (Specifically the Librarian) Passed the same mantle onto the Humans. The Forerunners were the protectors of our galaxy, and they passed that name onto us.

We do not have the same blood running in our veins.


Read these: http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/halo-3/the-terminals/

[Edited on 10.20.2009 9:27 AM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 9:26 AM PDT

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Forerunners look very similar to humans. That is why they made all their tech only compatible with humans.

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  • 10.20.2009 10:01 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Spartan999
Forerunners look very similar to humans. That is why they made all their tech only compatible with humans.


That is speculation.

We have never, EVER, gotten a physical description of the Forerunners.

  • 10.20.2009 10:04 AM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

Sorry for this crude analogy but bare with me.

Humans evolved from monkeys or to rephrase we are descendants of monkeys. Now just because we have evolved from simple primates doesnt mean that we are the only primates on the planet. We just happen to be the most intelligent of all the outcomes that evolution took, but there are still other forms of primates co-existing.

Apply that logic to the Haloverse:

The forerunner evolved from somewhere, or something to be correct. If you call that something "the source" then you can assume that the forerunner were one of numerous evolutionary outcomes and monkeys, and by extention humans, were another. In this situation the Forerunner were the most intelligent of the various forms of life that evolved from the source, whatever it was. While they built their empire, however long it took, humans evolved into what we are today similarly but not identically to the Forerunner. Humans are descendants of the Forerunner.

  • 10.20.2009 10:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Spartan999
Forerunners look very similar to humans. That is why they made all their tech only compatible with humans.


That is speculation.

We have never, EVER, gotten a physical description of the Forerunners.



You can figure this out through the terminals. The chances of two species evolving along the same lines in completely different parts of the galaxy are almost non existent. The forerunners were fascinated by us because we looked som much like them.

  • 10.20.2009 10:25 AM PDT

I am flatterd that you botherd to look at my signature.

the terminals in halo3 suggest the forruners never died off.

they took some members from every race includeing that of the covenant races took them to the ark, fired the halo rings sent everyone back to there places of origens and the surviveing forrruners went to a place they called Eden..

alos known as the garden of Eden..they got there via Portal..the same portal that was under new mombasa....

  • 10.20.2009 10:27 AM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

Posted by: Longsword049
the terminals in halo3 suggest the forruners never died off.

they took some members from every race includeing that of the covenant races took them to the ark, fired the halo rings sent everyone back to there places of origens and the surviveing forrruners went to a place they called Eden..

alos known as the garden of Eden..they got there via Portal..the same portal that was under new mombasa....


The portal under New Mombasa leads to the Ark which is most likely where they saved all the species from the flood and activated the rings. The portal to Eden would have to be located somewhere else but it still a good idea.

  • 10.20.2009 10:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: Longsword049
the terminals in halo3 suggest the forruners never died off.

they took some members from every race includeing that of the covenant races took them to the ark, fired the halo rings sent everyone back to there places of origens and the surviveing forrruners went to a place they called Eden..

alos known as the garden of Eden..they got there via Portal..the same portal that was under new mombasa....


As i understand it, Didact was the only Forerunner present on the Ark. The rest of the population was probably kept in the sheild world.

The repopulation of various specimens was most likely done by and automated service (sentinels of some type).

  • 10.20.2009 10:32 AM PDT

I am flatterd that you botherd to look at my signature.

Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: Longsword049
the terminals in halo3 suggest the forruners never died off.

they took some members from every race includeing that of the covenant races took them to the ark, fired the halo rings sent everyone back to there places of origens and the surviveing forrruners went to a place they called Eden..

alos known as the garden of Eden..they got there via Portal..the same portal that was under new mombasa....


The portal under New Mombasa leads to the Ark which is most likely where they saved all the species from the flood and activated the rings. The portal to Eden would have to be located somewhere else but it still a good idea.
what I mean is..back then.. Earth was Eden..the portal from the ark led to Earth..wich the forruners called Eden.

  • 10.20.2009 10:32 AM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

Ah...cool!

  • 10.20.2009 10:35 AM PDT

There are some concept art of a mmo placed in the halo verse.
And if you look at the concept art you can see humans and forerunner are almost identical in look.

http://www.dylancolestudio.com/sketches/pages/HaloConcept3.ht ml

[Edited on 10.20.2009 11:25 AM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 11:24 AM PDT

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