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Subject: ODST are ALSO reclaimers~PROVEN here
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In the level Truth and Reconciliation, after you have found Captain Key's, he calls his marines leathernecks. He says this in the area where Foehammer is suposed to fly you out of the ship, but gets tangled up and tells the MC and cortana to find another route off the the ship.

In the book, The Flood, on page 244-245 it talks about Marvin Mobuto. He is found dead in the Library by MC. "Ah," 343 Guilty Spark said, peering down over the Spartan's shoulder. "The other reclaimer. . His combat skin proved even less suitable than yours." (page 244: The Flood) These statements made by 343 GS prove that Marvin Mobuto was the reclaimer before MC. 'He checked, found the leatherneck's dog tags, and read the name. Mobuto, Marvin, Staff Sergeant, followed by a service number. The Cheif put the tags away.' (page 245: The Flood) So obviously, Mavin here is a leatherneck, and according to Key's, leatherneck is another name for an ODST.

So as I said before, Key's calls his ODST's leathernecks, and this OTHER reclaimer (Marvin) is also a leatherneck, proving that Orbital Drop Shock Troopers or leathernecks ALSO look like reclaimers.

Why is this relevent to anything you say? Well, It adds to the human + Forerunner theory. It shows that an ODST was also a reclaimer and further shows that its NOT just the MC's armor that has 343 GS "mistaking" him for the reclaimer, its the general shape of the human body... So since 343 GS "mistakes" humans as recaimers, maybe humans are the forerunners...

  • 07.25.2004 5:57 PM PDT
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good point, but leatherneck is just a term for a marine lol, It's been in use since like, world war 2, lol.

  • 07.25.2004 5:59 PM PDT
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nice find

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nice find bro

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Posted by: J 117
good point, but leatherneck is just a term for a marine lol, It's been in use since like, world war 2, lol.


the term leather neck started to be used in the early 1800s

  • 07.25.2004 6:00 PM PDT
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thx for correctin me jarhead lol, also jarhead is ANOTHER term for a marine (just for those who dont know there jargon lol)

  • 07.25.2004 6:01 PM PDT

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Yeah dude, all the marines are called leathernecks, even ODSTs.
This is due to a leather band they used to wear around thier neck to prevent decapitation.


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Umm... I thought most people were aware of this. I think 343GS is just going senile and thinks anybody who comes near him is a reclaimer and should help him. MC wasn't anymore a reclaimer than that marine. I thought this was obvious.

Old news.

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Posted by: Templar Zealot
Umm... I thought most people were aware of this. I think 343GS is just going senile and thinks anybody who comes near him is a reclaimer and should help him. MC wasn't anymore a reclaimer than that marine. I thought this was obvious.

Old news.


YOU THOUGHT THAT WAS OBVIOUS! I assume you can come up with some quotes, phrases, anything! on your assumption? I think you should take this up with EAGLE or CHAP b/c i know they would have a thing or two to say about your "obvious answer"

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343GS says "the other reclaimer," referring to a dead marine. If thats not obvious I don't know what is. I don't understand the rest of your post.

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Well before this busts out in yet another useless flame-war, let me say this. Nice find, but it's been theorized plenty of times before, with just about the same thing you said, but in different words.

  • 07.25.2004 6:12 PM PDT
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Maybe 343 GS just picked the toughest people he could find in armor. The marines did have some not very affective armor

  • 07.25.2004 6:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Templar Zealot
Umm... I thought most people were aware of this. I think 343GS is just going senile and thinks anybody who comes near him is a reclaimer and should help him. MC wasn't anymore a reclaimer than that marine. I thought this was obvious.

Old news.


YOU THOUGHT THAT WAS OBVIOUS! I assume you can come up with some quotes, phrases, anything! on your assumption? I think you should take this up with EAGLE or CHAP b/c i know they would have a thing or two to say about your "obvious answer"


ahhhh theorys.... great way to past time.

I sware if any of you get it right, i'll be very pissed, but not as pissed as you would be ruining the suprise for yourself...

  • 07.25.2004 6:14 PM PDT
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Who are Eagle and Chap by the way?

  • 07.25.2004 6:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: Templar Zealot
Who are Eagle and Chap by the way?


They are these two hardcores with gigantic theories that are both brilliant

  • 07.25.2004 6:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: PieFresh_

Old news.


Yeah, I thought The Flood came out ages ago, but there we go.

  • 07.25.2004 6:25 PM PDT

the name reclaimer just means that the person is getting the index back. this name doesn't mean 343 recognizes the reclaimer.

  • 07.25.2004 6:35 PM PDT
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good find dude really good

  • 07.25.2004 6:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: PieFresh_
Posted by: Templar Zealot
Who are Eagle and Chap by the way?


They are these two hardcores with gigantic theories that are both brilliant


Don't know em and haven't read their theories. Meh.

I agree with meshnaster. Anyone can be a reclaimer (or at least be called one by GS).

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  • 07.25.2004 6:45 PM PDT