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DO THE IMPOSSIBLE.

Posted by: Time Glitch
What do you care? If a "noob" can kill you with an assault rifle before you kill them with your precious BR, guess what you should do: Get an Assault Rifle.

If you feel like Halo is too much of a sprayfest, go play Call of Duty 4.

If you feel like Halo is no longer fun for you...GO PLAY A DIFFERENT GAME.


jfarag95, read other people's comments and quit whining. You will never beat Britney Spears.

  • 10.20.2009 2:34 PM PDT

I'm just a guy like you that plays halo.

I play halo about everyday (unless i get a new game or so) and I'm sometimes competitive but it just leads me to ripping my hair out over not getting a kill or losing a match. I would rather see a more casual game but of course i would like to see some competitive-ness in it as well, overall i would say I'm half 2/3 casual and 1/3 competitive and look at my rank, Over 1000exp and highest skill 40 and most of that exp is from social as ranked or better yet 'MLG' just doesn't entertain me and it's competitive-ness.

  • 10.20.2009 2:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: jfarag95
Are you telling me, that a kill should take half a minute with a mid/long range weapon? If you are, you must be crazy.
Go play CoD then.

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Weapons don't make a game more or less competitive, its the people you play against.

[Edited on 10.20.2009 2:37 PM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 2:36 PM PDT

Posted by: BTE
Posted by: jfarag95
Are you telling me, that a kill should take half a minute with a mid/long range weapon? If you are, you must be crazy.
Go play CoD then.

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Weapons don't make a game more or less competitive, its the people you play against.


Why can you people not see through glass?

This is so easy to see, a hardcore foundation would bring better players, more players, newer people to GET better, faster games, games that can be fun, and at the same time casual for the casual players. What can't it do? What will it hurt? Hm?

  • 10.20.2009 2:41 PM PDT
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um i like a competitve game every once and while but i dont want to halo to be heavily competive i want to be like

1. have friends over
2.order pizza and other junk food
3. play and have fun

  • 10.20.2009 2:42 PM PDT

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To: jfarag95
I have only one thing to say about your comment on making the game more competeive(this was posted by someone else earlier): Welcome to Capitalism.
Capitalism pretty much makes sure that games are for the public, the entire public, not some snobbes who think they are good. If you dont like it, move to a communist country, or some other country that practaces compleate socialism.

  • 10.20.2009 2:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: jfarag95
Why can you people not see through glass?

This is so easy to see, a hardcore foundation would bring better players, more players, newer people to GET better, faster games, games that can be fun, and at the same time casual for the casual players. What can't it do? What will it hurt? Hm?

Its frosted glass.

A hardcore foundation would separate the line even more between casual and hardcore gamers. To the point where casual gamers won't buy the game because of that single fact. So what would it hurt? Sales.

  • 10.20.2009 2:48 PM PDT

Posted by: BTE
Posted by: jfarag95
Why can you people not see through glass?

This is so easy to see, a hardcore foundation would bring better players, more players, newer people to GET better, faster games, games that can be fun, and at the same time casual for the casual players. What can't it do? What will it hurt? Hm?

Its frosted glass.

A hardcore foundation would separate the line even more between casual and hardcore gamers. To the point where casual gamers won't buy the game because of that single fact. So what would it hurt? Sales.



Casual gamers play games casually. So, a couple of rude comments from better players, or lost games won't effect them in the least.

  • 10.20.2009 2:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Dustinw1
To: jfarag95
I have only one thing to say about your comment on making the game more competeive(this was posted by someone else earlier): Welcome to Capitalism.
Capitalism pretty much makes sure that games are for the public, the entire public, not some snobbes who think they are good. If you dont like it, move to a communist country, or some other country that practaces compleate socialism.


I am not a snob, and I do not think I am good. I have gotten 50's on other accounts, but you know what I choose to do? Stay on this one, I like this account, it's my first, and I won't stop until I get a 50 on this account.

  • 10.20.2009 2:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: jfarag95
I am not a snob, and I do not think I am good.

Prove it. Play one game without a Br55 or a Sniper rifle ant post a link to the game here. It also cannot be custom or SWAT. social or ranked big team battle. dont do the one on one bull-blam!-, that does not prove skill.
Oh yea.....don't forget to read before you flame, seeing as you are basically incapable(or unwanting) of that.

[Edited on 10.20.2009 2:57 PM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 2:55 PM PDT

Why does almost everyone say competitive gamers are MLG wannabes but who wouldn't want to travel around the country playing Halo for money and fun. I certainly would. Plus just cause you like competitive gaming dosent make you a wannabe

I dont know why everyone dosent want this game to take skill. You people will have this game release date probably so you should be good. I personally want the game to at least be like Halo 2 and have

The same BR, Its really not overpowered and people need a good starting weapon. Bungie lowered it down enough for you with having to lead your shots and a bullet spread. I think they should have never brought back the AR imo

A flag run I mean so what if you go faster it gives away your position so that adds more strategy to choose if you should run or walk the flag.

Also to all the people saying they dont care STFU. If you didnt care you wouldnt be here discussing the game a year before release.


[Edited on 10.20.2009 2:56 PM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 2:56 PM PDT

Posted by: Dustinw1
Posted by: jfarag95
I am not a snob, and I do not think I am good.

Prove it. Play one game without a Br55 or a Sniper rifle ant post a link to the game here. It also cannot be custom or SWAT. social or ranked big team battle. dont do the one on one bull-blam!-, that does not prove skill.


Hah, I already have, multiple times. I cannot do it in ranked sadly. My ranks on this account are all over 40 besides Team Throwback, and that playlist has BR starts.

  • 10.20.2009 2:58 PM PDT

The number of casual gamers VASTLY outnumbers the hardcore. High School and College students and part time workers have CONSIDERABLY more time to devote to Halo (or any other game) and will naturally tend to be better players. The rest of us who work full time only play casually (since we simply don't have the time). Not to mention, the casual players typically have more money to spend on things like games (since we're typically casual players because we're working full time) hence the market will ALWAYS cater towards us.

Basically, unless you're professional or have enough free time, it's really difficult to be a "hardcore" player. Most people simply don't have that time, thus casual gaming will ALWAYS win. Why do you think systems like the Wii are so sucessful? Why do you think products like Natal are being produced? Gamers used to be hardcore - only hardcore players bothered to pick up gaming systems to devote any time to them. That's simply not the case any more. The gaming companies have already figured this out (see guitar hero, rock band, any wii game every made, etc).

  • 10.20.2009 3:02 PM PDT

Halo is an arcade shooter. It's been an arcade shooter since Halo 1. Just because Bungie makes the AR stronger at close range in comparison to the BR does not mean the game is made for casuals. It's just a basic balance to make the weapons more useful. Well it is casual, but it has always been casual. The competitive community has always been about the one-four headshot weapons. The sniper and the pistol/Br/Carbine. Please stop trying to change Halo into a competitive game when it has never been.

[Edited on 10.20.2009 3:04 PM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 3:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: jfarag95
Hah, I already have, multiple times. I cannot do it in ranked sadly. My ranks on this account are all over 40 besides Team Throwback, and that playlist has BR starts.

Links, or it never happend.
Oh, you really do care about ranks.......that qualifies as a noob to me. I'm preaty much positive that you will eventually use your rank as a fulcrum for future rants. I've seen that happen before, and I expect it to happen in this thread.
EDIT: i higly dout that any playlist has a weapon made out of Bromine at the start.(Bromine is a Halogen located in Group 17, Period 4 on the periodic table of elements. Bromine is a gas similar to Hydrogen, Chlorine, Iodine, Astatine(which is radioactive), and Florine.)

[Edited on 10.20.2009 3:09 PM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 3:03 PM PDT

I'm out.

Posted by: mgb66
Not another MLG kid.
These games are not meant for you specificly,they're meant for fun. And the majority of the people like fun, but a small portion of the population (MLG) like generic.

See it would be like making a door knob on the left side while the majority of the people are right handed.


No, it would be more like adding a door knob on the left side while keeping another knob on the right side. The knob on the left side doesn't really affect or change anything for anybody who's right handed.

  • 10.20.2009 3:04 PM PDT

Corn, Oil, and Wine... We need more wine...

Posted by: Skinny Genes
I would love it.
I'm fed up with all of these MLG wanna be idiots. They can't play the game for what it is.

Halo was never intended to be a hard-core, seat gripping, cant-go-eat-dinner-now-mom game. Its a relaxed, slow paced game.

Although I don't have a problem with MLG directly, I do have a problem with the players who believe all Halo should be about is the BR, Sticky Grenades, and Midship.

  • 10.20.2009 3:05 PM PDT

Posted by: WaveL3ngth
Why does almost everyone say competitive gamers are MLG wannabes but who wouldn't want to travel around the country playing Halo for money and fun. I certainly would. Plus just cause you like competitive gaming dosent make you a wannabe

I dont know why everyone dosent want this game to take skill. You people will have this game release date probably so you should be good. I personally want the game to at least be like Halo 2 and have

The same BR, Its really not overpowered and people need a good starting weapon. Bungie lowered it down enough for you with having to lead your shots and a bullet spread. I think they should have never brought back the AR imo

A flag run I mean so what if you go faster it gives away your position so that adds more strategy to choose if you should run or walk the flag.

Also to all the people saying they dont care STFU. If you didnt care you wouldnt be here discussing the game a year before release.


I don't think the SMG should have ever been introduced.

  • 10.20.2009 3:06 PM PDT
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Too many Bungie fanboys.

ILL BE MAD. They should have a casual and a serious playlist.

  • 10.20.2009 3:06 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

Posted by: switch 104 sv
I wont care because:

1. Games are designed to be mass produced in order to make money.If the isolate a sector of their customers then they will sell less copies.

2. Games are made to be enjoyed by AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. Not just for people who take online play, and probably themselves, far too seriously

3. Im a "weekend warrior"

4. Im going to enjoy Halo; Reach for what it is...a new Halo game.


Ditto

and to make it clear.

I AM A WEEKEND WARRIOR

  • 10.20.2009 3:10 PM PDT

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a wimper.
-T. S. Eliot "The Hollow Man"

I would like halo to just be a bit more tactical than "repeatedly jump 10 feet in then air spraying an airsoft gun until you get close to smack someone and kill them instantly."

  • 10.20.2009 3:10 PM PDT

Oh yea and people saying MLG isn't balanced I would love to hear why

  • 10.20.2009 3:13 PM PDT

Posted by: Winged Tragedy
I would like halo to just be a bit more tactical than "repeatedly jump 10 feet in then air spraying an airsoft gun until you get close to smack someone and kill them instantly."


So... just point and shoot without the beatdown? That doesn't seem more tactical...

[Edited on 10.20.2009 3:15 PM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 3:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: WaveL3ngth
Oh yea and people saying MLG isn't balanced I would love to hear why

Here's why: It's the Fu**ing battle rifle that makes it unfair. Magnum starts it should be, no battle rifles, no radioactive man-made elements(Bk=Berklium) and most certainly no gaurdian(thee worst map ever(save for one-on-one's and MJ)created).

  • 10.20.2009 3:16 PM PDT

1. How is the BR unfair when everyone starts with it. this is how you can tell if someone wants to get rid of it because its unfair or because they suck with it.

2. Why would you want a pistol for start unless its halo ce's the H3 magnum is to weak of a weapon

3. I dont know why the -blam!- your talking about elements

4. A. Guardian is a good map
B. The map is Bungies fault not MLG's
C. Its in MlG because it a good 4v4 map


[Edited on 10.20.2009 3:22 PM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 3:22 PM PDT