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This just in from the field: WHO -blam!- CARES!!!

seriously grow up little one.

[Edited on 10.20.2009 6:39 PM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 6:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: Moshes
This just in from the field: WHO -blam!- CARES!!!

seriously grow up little one.
If you don't care then why the hell are you posting in this thread? Seems that the only thing that needs to do a little growing is your brain.

  • 10.20.2009 6:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Moshes
This just in from the field: WHO -blam!- CARES!!!

seriously grow up little one.
If you don't care then why the hell are you posting in this thread? Seems that the only thing that needs to do a little growing is your brain.

cause i have my rights post in threads when i don't care. and totally im only 8 years old :( im sooooooo immature... dang-it :'(

  • 10.20.2009 6:46 PM PDT

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If the campaign is short as Halo 3's, I'd be disappointed.

  • 10.20.2009 7:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: Syzydeh
If the campaign is short as Halo 3's, I'd be disappointed.
Halo 3 was not that short in reality. It is a first person shooter. Its uncommon for these type of games to have single player campaigns longer than 8-10 hours.

  • 10.20.2009 7:17 PM PDT

My honor student can beat up your honor student.

I'd be happy to see the removal of the BR in favor of a pistol-esque weapon. The fact of the matter is that the BR is over used. Everyone's most used weapon is (me included) the BR. I'm tired of it to be perfectly honest.

And don't say, "So you're tired of a perfectly good weapon that fits every situation?" Yup. Having an all around great weapon kind of kills the need to pick up any other weapon, excluding the sniper, rockets, laser, and other power weapons. I want to see the time when each weapon was actually worth picking up.

  • 10.20.2009 7:20 PM PDT

Posted by: MickelPickel
I'd be happy to see the removal of the BR in favor of a pistol-esque weapon. The fact of the matter is that the BR is over used. Everyone's most used weapon is (me included) the BR. I'm tired of it to be perfectly honest.

And don't say, "So you're tired of a perfectly good weapon that fits every situation?" Yup. Having an all around great weapon kind of kills the need to pick up any other weapon, excluding the sniper, rockets, laser, and other power weapons. I want to see the time when each weapon was actually worth picking up.


I want the pistol replacement back too man.

  • 10.20.2009 7:31 PM PDT

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a wimper.
-T. S. Eliot "The Hollow Man"

Posted by: disgruntledfan2
Posted by: Winged Tragedy
I would like halo to just be a bit more tactical than "repeatedly jump 10 feet in then air spraying an airsoft gun until you get close to smack someone and kill them instantly."


So... just point and shoot without the beatdown? That doesn't seem more tactical...


just the fact that 32 bullets=2 punches just doesn't even make sense in any context. The bullets supposedly used in the AR are 7.62mm (stated in Halo: CE as M118 7.62x51mm FMJ-AP). This is the same round used in the M14 and the AK 47. This is like comparing someone getting shot with a whole magazine from an AK-47 to getting hit with a metal baseball bat 2 times. Also the fact that you cant hit anything past like 30 feet away with out just short burst firing (bullets are so weak full auto only makes sense)

[Edited on 10.21.2009 1:16 PM PDT]

  • 10.21.2009 1:15 PM PDT

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a wimper.
-T. S. Eliot "The Hollow Man"

in terms of the battle rifle, the only thing id like to see change would be that you could fire half bursts depending how long you held the trigger just like on a real burst firing rifle.

  • 10.21.2009 1:18 PM PDT
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Yeah, because we all know that weird guys on youtube always speak the truth.

Posted by: Hot Sauce 147
Posting on bungie.net should require that the user has had to have read a chapter book all the way through.

No, it needs to be for only hardcore like Halo 1!

  • 10.21.2009 1:19 PM PDT

Posted by: DootuzPIE
No, it needs to be for only hardcore like Halo 1!

Are you being sarcastic or do you really mean it?

  • 11.13.2009 2:21 PM PDT

Aye.

Posted by: jfarag95
How will you feel if this game is geared toward "Weekend Warriors" or people who play once a month?

Some people actually have things to be doing. I'd consider myself a "weekend warrior" (though perhaps without the stigma of being horrific at the game).

Stop taking yourself so seriously, go outside or build your own FPS.

  • 11.13.2009 2:29 PM PDT

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All I hear from the OP is:

"ZOMG if they don't make the game the exact way I want them too then I'm gonna cry :'("

  • 11.13.2009 2:34 PM PDT

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Obvious MLG wannabe troll is obvious.

Now where did Bungie put that report button.

  • 11.13.2009 2:41 PM PDT

And though you fight to stay alive
Your body starts to shiver
For no mere mortal can resist
The evil of the thriller

I'd be upset too if reach was dumbed down. Even though most people complain that the Br is OP, I feel that the other weapons are UP. The reason why the BR looks like it's too good for all ranges is because there aren't enough mid-range weapons that could compete with it well enough without melee.

[Edited on 11.13.2009 2:55 PM PST]

  • 11.13.2009 2:52 PM PDT

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I won't care because quite frankly multiplayer in any game bores me currently and I find the greatest fun from playing the Campaign and getting the story out of a game.

  • 11.13.2009 3:04 PM PDT

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Fail thread.

1: I'm a weekend warrior, grounded during week.

2: The silent, vast majority of players are casual. You MLG kids are just louder.

  • 11.13.2009 3:06 PM PDT

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  • 11.13.2009 3:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: jfarag95
If Halo: Reach is geared even more towards casual players than Halo 3, how are you going to feel about it?

I personally am going to be VERY unhappy. I am tired of all the threads and things complaining about how the BR is overpowered. If they don't have a weapon with a scope, that kills in less that 4 shots, with more than 4 shots in the clip, I'm going to freak.

If they don't have a way of running the flag, I'm going to freak.

If they have 10 too many rapid fire weapons, I'm going to freak.

How will you feel if this game is geared toward "Weekend Warriors" or people who play once a month?

Just because you are better at the game than other people doesn't mean that you deserve to have more fun than anyone else. Those people who suck want to have fun, too.

But I agree with you on most of your points:

There should be a mid-range weapon, yes. But it should be mid-ranged, not short/mid/long ranged. The BR's range is too far, and it works too well at close range. Bungie should either alter the BR in this way, or go ODST-style and completely remove it.

Running the flag? While I agree that it's a legitimate strategy and doesn't need to be removed, I wouldn't freak out if it was gone.

I completely agree with the last point. There should be an even balance of weapons this time: Around 1/3 of the weapons should be "hold down the trigger to fire" weapons, 1/3 "press the trigger each shot" weapons, and 1/3 "power" weapons. When there's six different versions of basically the same weapon, it gets old.


Wut? If it's hard, play on easy... The gameplay shouldn't be dumbed down for casual gamers, but the easiest difficulty should be able to suffice to them. And anyway, even in Halo CE easy was a walk in the park, now they're making normal easy when you should just play easy instead.

And the thing is, logically, sine its inception, video games are becoming more and more popular. Strangely enough, developers think dubbing down the gameplay will make people buy more the game, thing is, back in the day it wouldn't affect sales, why would it now? The only thing is that more and more people are aware of it and it's not so geek anymore. If you have an easy difficulty, why make everything so dumbed down? It would only lower the challenge to good games instead of making it more easy to newcomers since they'll still find it ok at easy. I can't understand their logic.

  • 11.13.2009 3:14 PM PDT

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I probably won't play, or I'll just complain more.

  • 11.13.2009 3:14 PM PDT

Posted by: Mikeo_203z
Fail thread.

1: I'm a weekend warrior, grounded during week.

2: The silent, vast majority of players are casual. You MLG kids are just louder.


Wut? Basically, a shooter is pretty simple, it rarely gets particularly hard to grasp. Why lower the challenge to better gamers, when the only thing newcomers would do is to play at easy? The only thing it will do, is make harder difficulties easier and easier ones get from "a walk in the park" to "a nap in the park". Keeping some challenge in the game would only make it better, newcomers wouldn't even realize it! That's the point! I highly doubt some newbs wouldn't play Halo CE because it's too hard and not enough gamer friendly, thing is, it's not the best selling xbox game for a reason, even if it is a "little" more complex than Halo 3, it was still easy on easy.

  • 11.13.2009 3:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: Skinny Genes
I would love it.
I'm fed up with all of these MLG wanna be idiots. They can't play the game for what it is.

Halo was never intended to be a hard-core, seat gripping, cant-go-eat-dinner-now-mom game. Its a relaxed, slow paced game.

Although I don't have a problem with MLG directly, I do have a problem with the players who believe all Halo should be about is the BR, Sticky Grenades, and Midship.

I agree with everything you just said.

  • 11.13.2009 3:22 PM PDT
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No.

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  • 11.13.2009 3:24 PM PDT

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The game doesn't have to be geared in either way, how about both like Halo 1 did?

The BR is not overpowered, it is overpowered when compared to the other weapons (besides power weapons of course).

Just try (without melee) to kill a BR user (even if you shoot him first) with plasma pistol, plasma rifle, spiker, smg, whatever.

In other words, the BR is fine, but the other weapons need a big buff. I mean come on, you would think that the spiker, a weapon that shoots very hot spikes that are like 6 inches long, would kill you rather quickly at close range (and medium too if you can hit, the spiker is quite accurate). Take out dual wield, and it wouldn't become overpowered.

I think that vastly improved weapon balance would help a lot in making gameplay better. Take Quake 3 for example, every single weapon is useful (of course there are only 9 guns). Halo 1 had a lot fewer weapons as well, maybe Reach can just cut down on guns? For example, if Brutes are not in Reach, all their guns can be removed.

[Edited on 11.13.2009 3:39 PM PST]

  • 11.13.2009 3:32 PM PDT

Posted by: MLD ShortStuff
Okay here we go...
You know what Halo was in the beginning (if you actually knew Halo existed back then [or were even alive])? I'll lay it out for you in a few simple steps:
1. Invite over friends.
2. Hook up TVs.
3. Order pizza.
4. Have FUN.
Many people (such as you) have lost sight of the last one. Halo was just a game to play with your buddies. Relax. Unwind. Scream at each other for kill stealing. You and your "pRo MLG PlAyAz" aren't playing the right game for what you want to accomplish. I'm sorry, but that's the truth. Halo was, and will be, a laid back game. Please find some other game where you can own some "-blam!- NuBz CaKeZ" and leave Halo Halo.


"pRo MLG PlAyAz" have fun playing competitively and owning noobs.

  • 11.13.2009 3:48 PM PDT