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Subject: Banshees and tanks, Use or don't use?
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(please read the WHOLE thing bfore making your opinioin on me or where i'm going.)

I noticed alot of people call people in "shee"s (banshees) "noobs". Many more make up rules for servers taht aren't their own and say no one is allowed to use banshees. This is an ongoing problem. I found the same issue with tanks but it's not as bad as shees are. (because if some one was a noob they wouldn't have gotten far enough in the game to learn how to use the tank effectivly, cause messing around in a tank being stupid in multiplayer is spelling disaster.) Personally i think that the banshees are a bit unrealistic but i think they are not powerful enough. (It's an arial attack, which means it should be powerful.) The maps are a little too limated for the shees in my opinion and should have tighter flying and a tougher interface for them while adding slightly more powerful weapons and allow them to fly higher. (as anyone can see the banshee dogfights are not exactly the most fun or instresting thing to get into.) Though, at the same time i relize, if the server admins didn't want people to use them, they would not be on the server, right? Apon seeing the title tag of the home page ("Banshees are multiplayer weapons too"), i relized now was a better time than any to make this open. I think Bungie is catching wind of this too.

  • 07.03.2005 2:07 PM PDT
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so........what's your point? That people shouldn't be criticized for using banshees and tanks? Well, i don't think so. Tanks aren't as criticized because people use them kill the "banshee noobs".

[Edited on 7/3/2005]

  • 07.03.2005 2:15 PM PDT
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No, I think his point is that Banshee's suck. There the only air vehicle in multi-player so I think there quite fun. People just suck at using them, so they call the good players "noobs". I just say: "Haha, you got killed by a 'noob' in a Banshee" when someone calls me that.

But tanks on the other hand are nearly invincible. Basically the only way to kill the driver is up close with a rocket launcher or grenades, but than they often get you first. The other way to get them is to snipe them(Wich is actually very easy), but thats nearly impossible when their tanks backwards, except for the turret and their racking up the kills by spawn-killing you in a CTF match.

  • 07.03.2005 2:25 PM PDT
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Use, but use sparringly. Use a tank to counter vehicles such as on gulch when a ghost or a worthog is doing circles around the base. Use a banshee to head off somebody escaping with the flag. And use both to counter each other. But if you're just jumping in one at the start of the game and flying/rolling around I'm sorry but U R teh noob.

As for the banshee being weak, hell yes. The one on Halo 2 is pretty damn invincible. My advice for anti-air is use the pistol for distance and the shotty when he comes closer.
If you've seen the movie "Snatch" you should recognize this quote. (Sorry, I've forgotten the names of the characters)
Black guy #1: You get the guns?
Black guy #2: Yeah, check this out. (pulls out a fatty shotgun)
Black guy #1: What the HELL is THAT!?!?
Black guy #2: This is a shotgun.
Black guy #1: That ain't no shotgun, that's a F***'in anti-aircraft gun!

  • 07.03.2005 2:46 PM PDT
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now, i realy don't care what people use. any vehical is stupid, because they're all easy to shoot down. right now, i'm working on using a sniper to empty a hog. i'm great at sniping tanks, and i can take down any banshee with 3 shots from a shot gun. so do whatever you wish. you're dead anyway.

but i will admit to using a banshee or tank to take out the other. i have come up with some intresting banshee maneuvers that allow me to take down a tank with ease, and just recently i usedthese techniques in an all rocket extravaganza on infinity. it was a 4v4 match, so naturaly everyone ran for the shees. 2 of my teamates quit, and the otherone wasn't so great... so when i whent into the middle of the map, i was met by 4 enemy shees. somehow, i emerged the victor...
and of course, when someone steals my shottie, i have to have a fallback plan to remove the shees from the skys, so tanks are ok, although i suck with them.
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anaway, my point is, although i prefer to say on foot, tanks and banshees are perfectly acceptable vehicals. use them if you want, but getting in there gaurentees a kill for my team.....

  • 07.03.2005 2:49 PM PDT
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use 'em both, because tanks and banshees make for a -blam!-in' day. :D

  • 07.03.2005 3:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cobra
use 'em both, because tanks and banshees make for a -blam!-in' day. :D


lol, banshees and tanks make the other players -blam!- for the whole day :)

  • 07.03.2005 3:35 PM PDT
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tanks hard to take out? Only found that problem when they're spawn killing. (oh how i hate getting killed spawning, especially in blood gulch where i spawn just where my allie's driving a hog. but on the other hand, fun to do. ;) ) Shee's are pretty hard to take out. But... when you have noobs flying them. Pretty easy actually. I remember when i was a noob i was taking out piolets left and right. They eventually started to get out as soon as they saw the guy doing the fireworks thing. But common, if the server admin wanted them there, there shouldn't be a problem. Actually, other than the fact that the shee's fuel rod gun sucks, and the dog fighting it isn't that much of a pain using them. But i'd like a more realistic thing. More like bigger flying zone and tougher controls. (as if we were flying a get not the terminator's hang glider.) Actually, the Shade (turret) is supposed to have anti veichle properties (though it's anti troop) but it sucks. And it is NEVER placed in anti troop places. (thank god for the BBT servers.)

  • 07.03.2005 3:40 PM PDT
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Tanks are more noobish than banshees when used correctly - two pistol clips will take down a shee - tanks, if you position and turn them right are nearly invincible if your team can maintain control over the rocket launcher. I think that they kind of balance each other out, but tanks are far more devastating in my opinion.

  • 07.03.2005 8:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: aM Inspire
Tanks are more noobish than banshees when used correctly - two pistol clips will take down a shee - tanks, if you position and turn them right are nearly invincible if your team can maintain control over the rocket launcher. I think that they kind of balance each other out, but tanks are far more devastating in my opinion.

but if they turn that way they become very vunerable to rockets- they can't move away that fast. if you're lucky enough to spawn on top of the base in front of the teleport, and manage to get through, then you've got a decent chance to take him out

  • 07.03.2005 8:46 PM PDT
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are you guys like using 400% shields or something? I can take out a tank with 5 shots from the pistol if i can aim at the drivers head.

  • 07.04.2005 2:38 AM PDT
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The trick is getting the shot at the head w/o him noticing you. The tank moves slow but damn, don't yank the driver's chain cause that turret isn't as bad as the rest of the veichle.

  • 07.04.2005 6:04 AM PDT
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You can take out a tank so easily with a ghost it's ridiculous. Just start shooting and strafing to the back, he won't be able to turn the turret fast enough. Then just keep moving around the tank and he will die in no less than 15 seconds. As for banshees... You can actually snipe someone out of a shee you know, if the banshee's back is to you, you can see the body of the guy in there. SHOOT IT. It's very unlikely you'll be able to do that or even have the chance to. So, get a pistol and FRG/RL/Shotgun. Use the pistol at mid-long range and shotgun/FRG/RL at close.

  • 07.04.2005 9:55 AM PDT
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how i love idiots in ghosts when i'm using a tank. ;) Yea, the trick is, you gotta hit the guy or close to the guy. duh you won't kill him at the front. Despite i try in vain sometimes they will give yu a small open space to shoot in. The belly is a great place, that's the guy. My as well not snipe it.

  • 07.04.2005 10:21 AM PDT
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you can take a tank out easily, just take cover when he sees you. let him fire the big gun, then pop a few rounds into his head. take cover again and wait for that gun to go off, then finish the job.

  • 07.04.2005 12:22 PM PDT
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With the proximity of that damn thing and considering he might have a few buddies radioed in for backup, that's easier said than done.

  • 07.05.2005 8:46 AM PDT
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Like I said - if the other team knows what they're doing - you won't get the rocket launcher - and if you do, you shouldn't have it long enough to get over the ridge in blood gulch and fire a round at a tank that won't see you and move out of the way. Not on a 16 person server - no way.

Your strategies, people, depend on you being l337 and the enemy being a New 001. Go play on Alabama T3 - Cussing = Ban On Blood Gulch playing CTF. There are 2 games - one with only hogs and one with everything except ghosts. On the latter, the team with the most tank control always wins.

When the game starts, we rush their tank and try to take it back behind our base.

BTW - I've lead banshees from across the map with a tank and taken them down while they were using evasive manuevers. No one is safe from a well-oiled team with a tank.

  • 07.05.2005 12:44 PM PDT
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no ghosts!? YAY!!! I hate ghosts.... I can't use them well and i suck taking them out. Thank god they don't have a fuel rod gun like the shee....

  • 07.05.2005 1:28 PM PDT
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You forget about one of the primary anti-tank machines...ghosts. Strafe around the tank, and its so slow and lumbering that it wont hit your speedy purple hovercraft.

By the by, Im talking about normal settings, where the tank is hard to manuver.

  • 07.05.2005 1:38 PM PDT
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So am i, but you forget when it strafes it can't turn it's guns while it does... So you'd have to stop or change direction, a smart tanker would wait till you did and fire when you're in the zone.

  • 07.05.2005 1:51 PM PDT
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Let me be honest I am one of those ppl that hate people that use shees but only the ones that over do it. You know what I mean? I talkin ppl that just cirle your base and spawn kill you. The tank I don't mind so much cause I can take them out pretty easily unless they are an exceptionally good at useing the tank. I like never use any vehicles except for the occasional Warthog but thats just to get from one place to another. I think its ok to use them just not abuse them. I try not to say the N word with shee infront of it because I know if they really were a N word that they couldn't possible kill me. If they can then they obviously aren't N words. So to finish my post off I think its ok to use them.

  • 07.05.2005 1:54 PM PDT

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