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Posted by: Lifeforce
why can't it happen on Earth, maybe their is a huge battle? Besides, they have the cure (or can make one/ make something the flood would resist) with Sgt. Johnson right? I don't know, beats the hell out of me.


Sgt. Johnson is the key to defeting the flood. or atleast keeping earth safe from them

  • 07.25.2004 7:20 PM PDT
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ok maybe keyes is daed but he played a major major major role in them getttin off halo and finding earth or where ever they go

  • 07.25.2004 7:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: D_mac114
sorry but you are wrong. Keyes is dead. The way the flood get to earth is Private Johnson. If you dont know how or why read first strike. And you will relize it.

Again with the flood coming to earth.. For one thing, if the flood got to earth it would be game over for the chief. On Halo The flood were nearly unstoppable with a limited supply of hosts. If they got to earth they would have Billions of hosts....Access to starships... With earth's limited shield technology it would fall in a matter of weeks. Nothing the chief could do would be able to stop them.

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Why would the flood want to find earth? They have no reason to go to earth specifically. If they want food, there has to be a closer inhabited planet than earth, and they would have gotten the location of many other planets from Keyes as well.

  • 07.25.2004 7:23 PM PDT
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wrong, the key to defeting the flood in Johnson. be able to clone his "virus" that makes him imune to the flood and make sure allmsot every body gets it mayeb there wil lbe a chance it would be hard but they would atleast make for a more effective resistance. and no one ever said the world wasent destroyed maybe it does fall who knows

  • 07.25.2004 7:25 PM PDT
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u know that theory about it being srgnt. Johnson bringing the flood to earth...how would that be possible?Beat "The Maw" on legendary and ull find out why, and wasnt he cloned to get back to earth in halo2? so its not the same body so he couldnt have brong the flood to earth...

  • 07.25.2004 7:27 PM PDT
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The Flood is comfirmed for Halo 2..I think its a rumor but dosent echo have a spore in her ship? So when she gets back to Earth it starts its breeding again..Maybe its a rumor but I am not to sure..Earth is a great space for the flood to go....Billions of hosts..and just their luck..the Covies are also there.

I might be wrong..who knows..

  • 07.25.2004 7:30 PM PDT
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lets recap then put some evedance for and agianst this hypothises.

cortona locks onto keys nueral implants signal and thus leads the MC to him
ONLY keys nueral implants can activate the self descruct functon.

MC punches infected keys in the face.

flood when infecting some who merge with human brains or somthing (havn't read the books but have heard this from those who have) in other words flood get all the memories from those they infect along with intelagance.

so that ruels out the theroy of him being alive in human for or it being another soldier.

and the flood (so far as we know) dont invade earth the covenant do.

there are 4 other rings (as said by 343 GS in 343 GS :)

so in other words the flood will probably get into the story via another ring (not to mention what would halo be without a halo?)

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keyes is the reason the flood get to whereeve rthey go eath, a colonie who knows but he is the "key" to them finding where ever they are going

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well, the flood take memories, and they probably could go to closer places then earth. But they were pretty much brain dead before, but now since they had keyes, they aren't brain dead. They have his memory, and their's one thing that the flood cares about. Food. and if the flood were to search through keyes' memories, they'd try and find ways to get food. And through the floods search, they would discover the memories of Earth, which to them would be the best place to find something to eat. So, the brainless flood would try anything to get their.

I don't know, all of this is based off theory. So It most likely is (99.999% sure) not going to happen. Just trying to add to the discussion.

  • 07.25.2004 7:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: crimtonic
lets recap then put some evedance for and agianst this hypothises.

cortona locks onto keys nueral implants signal and thus leads the MC to him
ONLY keys nueral implants can activate the self descruct functon.

MC punches infected keys in the face.

flood when infecting some who merge with human brains or somthing (havn't read the books but have heard this from those who have) in other words flood get all the memories from those they infect along with intelagance.

so that ruels out the theroy of him being alive in human for or it being another soldier.

and the flood (so far as we know) dont invade earth the covenant do.

there are 4 other rings (as said by 343 GS in 343 GS :)

so in other words the flood will probably get into the story via another ring (not to mention what would halo be without a halo?)


inver said that he was alive in human form, i think he is still alive as a flood hence they way the find there way to where ever they are going

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Posted by: Lifeforce
well, the flood take memories, and they probably could go to closer places then earth. But they were pretty much brain dead before, but now since they had keyes, they aren't brain dead. They have his memory, and their's one thing that the flood cares about. Food. and if the flood were to search through keyes' memories, they'd try and find ways to get food. And through the floods search, they would discover the memories of Earth, which to them would be the best place to find something to eat. So, the brainless flood would try anything to get their.

I don't know, all of this is based off theory. So It most likely is (99.999% sure) not going to happen. Just trying to add to the discussion.


thats what i have been trying to sya the whole time thanks:)

  • 07.25.2004 7:33 PM PDT
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Craz3, read the books, Johnson isn't dead, he survived the flood. Also, about Johnson being the cure...In order to create some kind of vaccine from him, we'd need years of research. Then (since he has a neural disorder that causes his immunity) we'd need to alter the neural systems of every human on earth to stop the flood. How long do you think that would take? Even if they turned the sure into a vaccine, we'd need to distribute it to 10 billion+ people in a short time.

  • 07.25.2004 7:35 PM PDT
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MAYBE THE FLOOD ARE LIKE Zerg from starcraft ;) they are very much alike, the flood must have one really intelligent being in there race that conrols them like the "Overmind" and zerg can also take over human body's (like kerrigan) aha and they also fiigured out a way for space travel. See how alike they are :). And o ya they also almost wipe out there creators"protoss"just like the flood might have wiped out the forunners!

[Edited on 7/25/2004 7:37:31 PM]

  • 07.25.2004 7:36 PM PDT
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Ria did u read my idea off of another recent thread , it was a pretty it was a good 1 too

  • 07.25.2004 7:37 PM PDT
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lol, that sucks for the humans if the flood comes! ha ha! wait... *looks at hands and then looks through a mirror* damn it! I'm a human! (lol, jk)

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Posted by: finalwaltz
Craz3, read the books, Johnson isn't dead, he survived the flood. Also, about Johnson being the cure...In order to create some kind of vaccine from him, we'd need years of research. Then (since he has a neural disorder that causes his immunity) we'd need to alter the neural systems of every human on earth to stop the flood. How long do you think that would take? Even if they turned the sure into a vaccine, we'd need to distribute it to 10 billion+ people in a short time.


All earth needs to do is make sure all military personal get it and make sure a majority of the popualtion gets it in order to insure an effective resistants so the flood can only feed on a certain amount and they could be exterminated to a certain extent

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also another thought on johnson, if we get a cure from johnson find someway to get it into the flood, there for they would inject there virus and johnson" cure" = no affect on humans (turning into flood wise)

  • 07.25.2004 7:41 PM PDT
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MMMMkayyy look Keys was a 'brain flood' , he was connected to the controls of the Covanant Cruiser. The flood took his knowlege before MC got the implant. That way the flood either escaped somewhere and know where earth is or were just to stupid to pilot a ship.

( i dont think they were to stupid because when u go to get the implant the flood were consentrated and moving towards the control room thus givings the probiblity that the floods were trying to undock the ship and escape and might have. )

[color=yellow] This is my idea I was speakin of before. [/color]

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Posted by: Craz3
u know that theory about it being srgnt. Johnson bringing the flood to earth...how would that be possible?Beat "The Maw" on legendary and ull find out why, and wasnt he cloned to get back to earth in halo2? so its not the same body so he couldnt have brong the flood to earth...


*sigh* Read First Strike. The legendary ending was just for laughs.

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Posted by: dynamic64
MMMMkayyy look Keys was a 'brain flood' , he was connected to the controls of the Covanant Cruiser. The flood took his knowlege before MC got the implant. That way the flood either escaped somewhere and know where earth is or were just to stupid to pilot a ship.

( i dont think they were to stupid because when u go to get the implant the flood were consentrated and moving towards the control room thus givings the probiblity that the floods were trying to undock the ship and escape and might have. )

[color=yellow] This is my idea I was speakin of before. [/color]


i thought of an idea like hat, there was no proof taht brain/flood/keyes died or any proof that the TandR was destroyed i belive that they left shortly after MC took off to destroy the Pillar.

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Posted by: General Ria
also another thought on johnson, if we get a cure from johnson find someway to get it into the flood, there for they would inject there virus and johnson" cure" = no affect on humans (turning into flood wise)


It's not a virus...it's some kind nervous system malfunction. *searches through books* I'll get back to you.

  • 07.25.2004 7:51 PM PDT
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but still maybe they could extract some neural tissue and some how come up with a cure for the flood"virus"? i think it is a possibilty

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Posted by: General Ria
listen guys we watched him punch his face in but maybe he had already gave the flood the info?
have you never shot a floods head off and it didn't get up

  • 07.25.2004 7:59 PM PDT
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Keys is deffinitly dead seeing as how MC poped his face like a baloon. But his mind was floating around in the 'brain'. But if you do notice when you enter the hallway to the control room the covanant are fighing the flood for contol of the Control Room. Once you throw a 'nade into the small band ove covanant and proceed towards the "C Room" about 20 floods rush in where the covies where before they started driping down the walls.

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