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Subject: CTF Flag Running
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This reminds me of the button glitches ordeal from Halo 2...

"It takes SKILL!"

"SKILL?!?!?! You just press a couple of buttons!"

or...

"It makes the game fast paced!"

"It's -blam!- annoying!!"

  • 10.21.2009 9:10 PM PDT

The only thing I would suggest they do is maybe have the announcer say "Flag stolen!" ONLY when it's taken directly from the spawn point, not every time it's picked up. Other than that, it's fine the way it is.

[Edited on 10.21.2009 9:27 PM PDT]

  • 10.21.2009 9:26 PM PDT

I completely agree flag running is an essential in any halo flag gametype. It would completely destroy the pace of the game.

@ ak

It's a lot more then just pressing a-couple of buttons, timing is also a part of it and it does take skill.

[Edited on 10.21.2009 10:02 PM PDT]

  • 10.21.2009 9:59 PM PDT
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There is nothing wrong with flag running it adds an element to the game... you wouldnt be able to do any tactical jumps without it which would make flag terrible... whats next complaining about kids usuing strategies and setting up weapon respawns because some people cant/wont adapt to it.

I agree with changing the flag stolen part but maybe only if the flag is stationary for more than say 4 seconds

  • 10.21.2009 10:00 PM PDT

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CTF is god. Praise his name. For the flag is his holy messiah.

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I just laugh at the players saying it's an "exploit" or cheating. So I wasn't meant to drop the flag and defend myself if necessary?

  • 10.21.2009 10:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: coIonel grade 2
Posted by: AK 47625714
This reminds me of the button glitches ordeal from Halo 2...

"It takes SKILL!"

"SKILL?!?!?! You just press a couple of buttons!"

or...

"It makes the game fast paced!"

"It's -blam!- annoying!!"
Question is though, can the people who complain about these tactics do it themselves? Or are they just bitter?
It's just an observation.

  • 10.21.2009 10:17 PM PDT

hahah flag running is the best thing ever
it makes the game way more fun

  • 10.21.2009 10:45 PM PDT

I don't want to join your group.

"In science one tries to tell people, in such a way as to be understood by everyone, something that no one ever knew before. But in poetry, it's the exact opposite." - Paul Dirac

Flag running makes it more fun to cap a flag and increases the pace of the game, which makes it more fun for everyone else participating in the game.

The trade-off between stealth and speed adds an interesting level of tactical depth to the game.

Flag is my favorite gametype in Halo 3, but I'm not sure if that would be true if you couldn't juggle the flag.

A big reason that objective gametypes are less popular in Halo 3 than in Halo 2 and Halo:CE is pacing. Objective in Halo 3 is slow and boring; territories cap slowly, bombs take forever to detonate, flags take forever to return... Flag juggling puts a dent in this boring-ness, which is a good thing.

  • 10.21.2009 10:52 PM PDT

Halo 3s skill gap is small enough as it is. We need anything that can add a bit more competitiveness to the game even if it's something as little as being able to throw the flag. And im sorry casual players if you dont like it but bungie heavily favors you in all their playlists and i dont think its a big deal for them to give something as little as this to the competitive community. but w/e all the replys i get will prob say "mlg kids are ignoARAWNT and they thinnk thry better than meh!"

  • 10.21.2009 11:20 PM PDT

I approve of this thread, flag running will be and shall forever be an element in Halo.

  • 10.21.2009 11:50 PM PDT

Flag juggling also makes Halo a lot more fun to watch.

[Edited on 10.21.2009 11:55 PM PDT]

  • 10.21.2009 11:55 PM PDT

AMEN!!!!!!

It is in the game and allowed for a reason...if you don't like doing it, then by all means don't do it...but don't start crying to mommy and daddy when someone else does it....

This is almost as bad as the BR discussions that go on around here...it is 1 of only 2 multipurpose weapons in this game(the other being the carbine)...it doesn't make the weapon cheap because it has multiple uses... "It's to powerful at range...every time I go at someone with my AR i get killed!!!!11!!!1one!1!!" well then nublet, I think you should rethink your tactics instead of complaining about the weapons themselves....

sorry for the rant...i just hate cry babies who think its a problem with game mechanics as a reason why they can't do something, instead of looking at their own faults to fix the problem...

/end rant

  • 10.21.2009 11:57 PM PDT

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haha...i can't believe that thread.

flag juggling has been around for so long...and for some reason this is only coming up now??
Remember in h2 how far the flag would bounce??...it made games more exciting.

  • 10.22.2009 1:47 AM PDT

I cant believe people call it cheating, glitching, or exploiting. I mean if it was any of those 3 it would be addressed after halo 2, so it couldnt happen at all. And alot of them claim they can do it, even tho they cant. I mean the most common excuse i see is

"I cant do it, but I dont like to, its not fair, so i dont do it"

In the end they are just mad that someone can cap a flag faster then them, its just like the whole BR thing, they want it taken out cause they cant use it as well as others.

I support BRs and Flag running.

  • 10.22.2009 1:54 AM PDT
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-j3di mlnd

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let nubs b nubs.

[Edited on 10.22.2009 2:20 AM PDT]

  • 10.22.2009 2:14 AM PDT

Posted by: trigga trainzz
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Pro = Faster.

Con = They know your exact location.


How is that not balanced?


Running the flag IS balanced, whichever way you do it. Running the flag is not difficult, and if other people/teams are beating you because of that sole issue (which i strongly believe is not REALLy the issue here....), then just learn how to run the flag.
Call it tactical or competitive, which it is, but anyone in the game has the ability to run the flag and by no means is it a glitch or problem that needs to be addressed such as ball/flag glitching. The reason players actually run the flag is because if you just walk across the map your a big, slow target that takes 30 seconds to run the flag from one side of the Pit to the other.
I don't care if your a level 10 or a level 50 in whatever play list, running the flag is just smart, and is VERY BASIC AND EXTREMELY EASY. Running the flag is an extremely basic fundamental to halo 3; it is quite ridiculous that this thread is being made two years after the games release, arguing that such a basic and simple yet EXTREMELY USEFUL tactic should be taken out of the game.
Bungie will never even consider your request, and to be honest, you guys are extremely lucky that mlgpro.com forum users are even gracing your forums with our presence. I mean seriously, whats next? Are you guys gonna petition against people who four-shot? because it is seriously "annoying" and "ruins the game" right? I'm not trying to be harsh but you guys are seriously making your harsh reality very obvious.
And for those of you who dont know, all you have to do to run the flag is press your control for either shoot or nade, and then your control for picking up flag.


TWO BUTTONS. PATHETIC.

-j3di out


Wow, you relize this thread is IN SUPPORT of flag running, the other one is against it. Fail. And its more then two buttons if you wanna do it the good way, Pick up, jump, throw, repeat.

And really, gracing us with your presence? MLGpro.com users are not gods, they are players like everyone else, im an MLG player but that doesnt mean that i should get special treatment. Best part is, Flag Running is not just in MLG, it is in EVERY flag type, so you dont really need to act all high and mighty cause you play MLG. Its kinda sad that you act like this, you are the reason why people dont like MLG players... I get hated on because your a retard...

[Edited on 10.22.2009 2:22 AM PDT]

  • 10.22.2009 2:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: TS AGRawr2
Posted by: trigga trainzz
Posted by: Regnmaker
Pro = Faster.

Con = They know your exact location.


How is that not balanced?


Running the flag IS balanced, whichever way you do it. Running the flag is not difficult, and if other people/teams are beating you because of that sole issue (which i strongly believe is not REALLy the issue here....), then just learn how to run the flag.
Call it tactical or competitive, which it is, but anyone in the game has the ability to run the flag and by no means is it a glitch or problem that needs to be addressed such as ball/flag glitching. The reason players actually run the flag is because if you just walk across the map your a big, slow target that takes 30 seconds to run the flag from one side of the Pit to the other.
I don't care if your a level 10 or a level 50 in whatever play list, running the flag is just smart, and is VERY BASIC AND EXTREMELY EASY. Running the flag is an extremely basic fundamental to halo 3; it is quite ridiculous that this thread is being made two years after the games release, arguing that such a basic and simple yet EXTREMELY USEFUL tactic should be taken out of the game.
Bungie will never even consider your request, and to be honest, you guys are extremely lucky that mlgpro.com forum users are even gracing your forums with our presence. I mean seriously, whats next? Are you guys gonna petition against people who four-shot? because it is seriously "annoying" and "ruins the game" right? I'm not trying to be harsh but you guys are seriously making your harsh reality very obvious.
And for those of you who dont know, all you have to do to run the flag is press your control for either shoot or nade, and then your control for picking up flag.


TWO BUTTONS. PATHETIC.

-j3di out


Wow, you relize this thread is IN SUPPORT of flag running, the other one is against it. Fail. And its more then two buttons if you wanna do it the good way, Pick up, jump, throw, repeat.

And really, gracing us with your presence? MLGpro.com users are not gods, they are players like everyone else, im an MLG player but that doesnt mean that i should get special treatment. Best part is, Flag Running is not just in MLG, it is in EVERY flag type, so you dont really need to act all high and mighty cause you play MLG. Its kinda sad that you act like this, you are the reason why people dont like MLG players... I get hated on because your a retard...


keep being angry F A G

[Edited on 10.22.2009 2:23 AM PDT]

  • 10.22.2009 2:23 AM PDT

Lol keep crying MLG wanna be. Im not mad, im just tired of bad MLG kids acting like they are amazing cause they won one game of MLG on xbox live out of the 20 they played.

But just to make you cry more, learn to understand a thread before posting, oh you just got owned by a "-blam!-" guy.

[Edited on 10.22.2009 2:28 AM PDT]

  • 10.22.2009 2:26 AM PDT

Don't be mad at MLG most of aren't like that.

OT Flag running should be kept

  • 10.22.2009 3:49 AM PDT
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Flag Running = something the bk's can't do = something they want removed

I mean come on bungie already added stuff like the melee lunge, a ton of powerweapons that are easy to use and the assault rifle as a starting weapon for you guys, leave flag running alone...

[Edited on 10.22.2009 4:44 AM PDT]

  • 10.22.2009 4:43 AM PDT

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ok, so i am for flag running.. Let me break it down like i see it.

MLG made halo what it is today
With no Flag running there would be no MLG
NO MLG = Halo Reach Fail

  • 10.22.2009 5:48 AM PDT

Look out.... -boom- (headshot)
I told you to look out, but know, you got in my way, was going to shoot that splaser....

I'm in support for flag running because I do it occasionally, and when I see some one do it, I go "Oh well" and pull out the sniper rifle -boom- (announcer) HEAD SHOT, Me: "Next victum".
doesnt matter if they run or not, I still shoot them in the face.

  • 10.22.2009 6:40 AM PDT
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I'm going to not read any of the posts on this thread because of two things. 1) Flag inertia has been in all Halo games. 2) it's a matter of a opinion. Implementing a few multiplayer/gametype options and this can easily be fixed. There is no 'wrong' or 'right' way to play flag, it's an opinion.

  • 10.22.2009 9:06 AM PDT

They should just make it slower because hearing "Flag Dropped Flag Taken" a hundred times is annoying.

  • 10.22.2009 9:10 AM PDT

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