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Posted by: menotyou135
Hello, I am an active member of the MLG forum in the Halo 3 discussion board and the Halo 3 forge forum discussion board. It has become flear to me that the relationships between the MLG community ane the B.net community are boor at best. On one hand is the MLG community, who B.net stereotypes as being full of selfish, "know-it-alls" who think they are better than everybody else. On the other side, the MLG community stereotypes the B.net community as being full of young players, who because of their gearing toward a casual gaming experience, do not understand the subtleties of the game, which is being ruined by the casual-gamer's preference by Bungie. The MLG community looks at the posts that B.net users post, which, if enacted, would destroy some of the competitive merit of the Halo series and leave only the casual experience...
MLG forum: http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=277444&highl ight=running
B.net forums: http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=38101808&p ostRepeater1-p=1
...As you may ascertain the the above example of a B.net topic that arose recently, one side is frustrated at the posters of the Bungie forum for suggesting something that would be the reason that "competitive gaming is getting ruined" (Aceolus: Post #3). B.net users on the other hand, find it an annoyance, which is being exploited through an unintentional glitch. (Notice that I am using the stereotypes of what was said as an example supporting my thesis, not as my own opinion, which in this matter will remain neutral and confidential). I believe, simply, that the two communities should make a conscious effort to make amends to one another. The few B.net users who post immature threads do not reflect the whole of the B.net community; at the same time, the few MLG players who go to the B.net forums to flame are not representative of the whole of the MLG community (in fact we abhor most of these "flamers"). So what is my main point? Why am I typing this up if stereotypes will still dominate the two sites? So that the few who think honestly about this topic will take it seriously. I have no doubt that a simple topic such as this will change many people's minds. The reason that I ascertained the will to type this topic was to implore people from both sides to try to put aside their pre-conceived stereotypes and see each community for what it is. The MLG community is a community for the betterment of the competitive merit of the Halo series. The B.net community is a community for the betterment of the casual enjoyability of the halo series. We are nothing more or nothing less than the betterment of one of the most popular games in history and our goals do not have to clash. We can have a competitive game that has may option that satisfy the competitive wants that have nothing to do with what the casual gamer will see in matchmaking. We can have a casual game that does not stress the people who are not good at the game or haven't been playing it long. We are analogous to the Democratic and Republican parties of American politics. We have differing view-points generally, but we both want our "America (I.E. Halo series) to b the best it can be. In politics, who people from opposing parties often come together to work on a common goal. My central question is: Why can't we do this for Reach or any other halo game?
P.S: I would enjoy no flaming in this disscussion for the sake of this idea in general.
My aspiration for beginning this topic is the below topic on the MLG/Halo 3 forum:
http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=277350&page= 2
you sound young and Naive.
Your thoughts however valid are not what the issue is.
The issues between the to communities is not age related it is skill related.
MLG players believe those at bungie.net are all "BKs","noobs" and do not know how to play.
This is actually the opposite.
I was very active in MLG ( not this account so don't talk -blam!- BK's haha see a joke )what I noticed is a very subtle difference. It is simply this MLG players are in my opinion one track minded, while those that play MM the way it is meant are thinking of more than one thing.
Those that play MLG think of one thing " I must Win ".
The main issue with those that play MLG is that they believe themselves to be paragons.
From my experience this is anything but true! I have played halo for nearly 10 years now....god that's a long time....I have yet to see a single new pro that is in my opinion a true professional ( in the true meaning of the word). The problem with the pros in halo 3 is this...even halo 2..The weapon sets are preordained.
That is not how a Sport is supposed to be. The table is always empty and you have to build your strategy from start to finish to win. Yes, you come in with an idea of what to do, but, with the way that MLG is played today you can have a preset strat for every map and variant and there is nothing ever different. Aside from adjusting to an opposing strategy.
Okay Now onto Bungie.net members.
The majority of us ( yes us as I have quit playing MLG as it is dry ) here at B.net are here for 3 reasons.
1. To have fun.
2. Hang with friends ( yes MLG players do this to but not for fun )
3. To be creative and expand our artistic abilities through Forge and Theater.
The main issue I see with Bungie.net member is one simple thing these days. Immaturity, Immaturity has become a problem with the community of late.
I do not know why maybe it has to do with new members of the younger generations that haven't been given the proper guidance on forum etiquette.
Well, to other veteran members of B.net MLGCheewa,Moderators, and a few members that have been here as long as I lets do our best to help change that so the fan base of bungie moves back to it's old ways.
I guess what i am trying to say is each community has a problem in it's own way some worst than others.
But in the end were all fans of Bungie just get along and have "fun" that is what it's all about.
One last Thought while I am typing out a Editorial here for Bungie news daily bahaha
Lets make an attempt in ourselves to heal the hatred between the two communities by first understanding the other persons feelings and views. Do not push what you view on them or how you do something.
Just do things yourway and let them see how you do it. Maybe then they will see the way you do it and try it out. This goes for both sides. there is nothing wrong with a bit of infighting but the point were at is a breaking point that could cause many people to leave the community.
Good luck, Have fun, and remember.....I am The LastDudeGuy.